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really?

Okay?

Yes / No / Not really.

For starters, there are multiple versions of OpenGL. Ratified versions of OpenGL include 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 2.0, 2.0 ES, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 4.0, and 4.1. In addition OpenGL also supports Vendor Specific / Proprietary Extensions.

The original City of Heroes rendering engine was built with help from Nvidia and leveraged several proprietary Nvidia extensions for graphical effects. This was why ATi users had issues with depth of field and water effects for so long.

During Going Rogue development Paragon Studios worked with AMD to rewrite the legacy graphics engine to use API calls only in the ratified OpenGL 1.4 / 2.0 specifications, which incidentally broke compatibility with Intel graphics chips that also depended on vendor-specific extensions. In addition AMD and Paragon Studios implemented a Ratified Specification compliant rendering engine based against OpenGL 3.0, I believe the first retail game to leverage OpenGL 3.0.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, OpenGL is a complex API covering a wide range of acceleration technologies designed for fast-single-pass rendering such as those used in game, and multi-pass techniques used in rendering jobs for the likes of Pixar and Dreamworks.

Changes to an OpenGL driver that improves performance for something Pixar does may have negative impact on performance for a rendering job such as that used by City of Heroes. This is also why Driver vendors often issue warnings with their drivers to not upgrade unless you need to.

Really? As far as I'm aware none of those games support the sheer number of potential players in a single area with anywhere close to the number of possible particle effects and other rendering techniques called for by Costumes and Powers alone.

Whether you like it or not, CoH is incredibly graphically intensive in the Ultra-Mode settings.

Performance should be the same. According to the graphics masters at Valve Software and IDSoftware (e.g. Gabe Newell and John Carmack) there isn't a whole lot of performance difference between OpenGL and DirectX.

Have fun with that.

You do know that Nvidia is in major financial trouble, right? http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:NVDA

Bull Manure.

It took Nvidia over 4 years to fix a bug in their 96 driver branch.

Oh, and Nvidia has a total of 3 different OpenGL legacy drivers from the 71, 96, 175 branches to cover just how often their driver breaks, neverminding their current 275 stable branch and 280 development branch.

Reportedly the OpenGL rendering problem has been fixed in the 11.7 preview released for gDEBugger: http://developer.amd.com/tools/gDEBu...s/default.aspx

Note: i haven't actually tested it myself.

With Dark Blast / Dark Manip finalized for Blasters that means that Sunstorm / Synapse have also finalized Dark Control / Dark Assault.

The no new animations / artwork requirement for this round of proliferation means that Dark Control / Dark Assault have completely new powers that require new animations.

Ergo, until art and animation assets are available to actually make these animations, these power-sets cannot be released.

please see top of forum:

Also, to answer your question, this is a driver issue with AMD, not a game issue with Paragon Studios. You need to go file a /bug with AMD: http://www.amd.com/us/CatalystCrewSurvey

I suspect that Dominators would not receive an identical set to Illusion Control if the decision was ever made to proliferate the set.

Okay, YOU be the one to tell War Witch and Tunnel Rat they have to model for the animations

*logs in to find all avatars reset to level -50*

No. there are no plans to do so.

He does.

He also posts on this board occasionally.

His location is... "A Castle"

/signed!

You'd be better off changing your control + tab to another combination, which CAN be done through the in-game options.

I think Leo was giving the Sarcasm Detector a workout.

/unsigned

Forbin and 37 already cover the reasons why I wouldn't want this.

Advertisers also got burnt on Planetside. S.O.E. and their advertising "partners" vastly underestimated the intelligence of the player-base which very quickly had passed around instructions on how to block advertisements.

Hey, there could even be a McDonald's themed Task Force. Complete the Task Force and get a coupon for one free Hamburger (Valid only once per week)

Okay. Question.

Just how many people do you think are actually interested in this?

Are you aware that from the launch of Issue 4 Colosseum in May 2005 to the release of Issue 13 in December 2008 the percentage of the player-base partaking in "PvP Content" never rose above single digit percentages?

Are you aware that after the release of Issue 13 the existing PvP-player base says the community SHRUNK and that PLAYERS LEFT THE GAME?

I can give you one good reason why the devs shouldn't create an Open World PvP server: Nobody Cares.

Oh, and for the record, this has been suggested before, way back in 2005 when Issue 4 was launched, and again when NCSoft bought City of Heroes from Cryptic.

Free burgers on demand?

... actually McDonald's might go for that promo...

heh. I didn't want to Zwillinger the thread THAT much...

I just figured I'd go for the confirmation on the basis of a Zwillinger Tangent

(I'm so going to have a seed of Hamidon spawned on me... I just know it)

While you're up and about, any word on Shadowstar?

(and yes, good to know )

Um. You do know that the Cottage rule is not about this?

There is nothing in the Cottage rule that says the devs cannot repair broken powers.

So... the rules don't matter?

Yep. There have been several times when developers have outright stated that a power is working as intended.

Woah. Hold Up.

You need to explain here why the Cottage Rule is passing the buck.

Were you not around when the developers tried changing out powers... you know... "crappy, sucky powers that nobody liked" type of thing with wholesale deletion?

Are you aware that their attempts to delete and replace powers are why all the Patron / Ancillary powerpools are now FIVE choices instead of four choices?

Fact is, the player-base revolted.

Um. Okay?

What does a law of nature have to do with a video game?

I mean, City of Heroes isn't exactly an Orange sitting on a tree?

Woah Woah Woah Woah Whoah Woah.

Did you seriously, without joking, just say that the developers should have put an attack:

• with a really long interrupt time
• with a really long recharge time
• does mediocre to no damage outside of /hide
• has to be used from /hide for maximum damage

Did you really just say that attack should have been the FIRST attack Stalkers should have gotten?

I'm sorry, you just completely ruined what-ever credibility you thought you had. I can't take you seriously after that statement.

The simple fact is this: By placing the Assassin's Attack at level 6 all stalkers are forced to accept at least one... ONE attack outside of the Assassin's attack. Why is that such a big deal?

Tell me you don't remember the days of seeing builds like ... this one... running around.







Now imagine if I was a new player who did that with Assassin's Attack as my primary power choice.

Um.

Masterminds get pets at level 1.



Wow.

Just. Wow.

*edit*

Before I get a "oh but it used to be like that" type of response... I went over to Paragonwiki and checked the history on the Mastermind page, specifically the 2005 post by Man with the Plan: http://paragonwiki.com/w/index.php?t...nd&oldid=82746

So even back when the game first launched... 00:24, 3 November 2005 ... Mastermind's were able to select their first pet power at level 1.

*edit*

Second edit. The thought occurred to me that maybe the poster I just spent this post ripping apart was somehow trying to compare the obtention of Mastermind's pet to the obtention of a Stalker's Assassin's Attack. If that was the poster's intent... well. I don't think it changes anything else typed here.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/asinine

1. See foolish.

Okay. You got this badly backwards.

I'm sorry, but, you don't know what you are talking about here, and I'm going to be blunt.

Maybe I can put this terms you can understand.

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Um. No. These haven't been fixed because these are not BROKEN.

For starters, you clearly do not know what you are talking about with Masterminds. You didn't even BOTHER to log into the game and check to see if what you were typing was even accurate.

Given that one of your primary examples was based on... I have no idea what... it does not leave me convinced that I can explain to you why stalkers can get 3 other damaging attacks before the Assassin's Attack.

*edit*

Okay, accepting for a second that your original intent was to say that Stalkers should have gotten their signature attack at the same time Mastermind's get their signature pet ... this is... well. Just as senseless.

Maybe I can try and break this down very simply.

The developers intended design is that all players will have at least one single quick recharging attack in their power-sets... no matter how the player designs their archtype.

This ensures that on some level a player will be able to participate in combat.

If the developers did what you wanted, it would be possible to create a stalker that would have nothing but the assassin's attack... and would be completely useless except when hidden and using that attack.

Mastermind's get a semi-pass on this with their pets. It is possible to take a Mastermind to level 50 without taking any of the three native attacks. However, this is why the first tier of Mastermind pets are combat pets. The minion pets still fill the combat role of giving the Mastermind something to attack with.

On some level both the developers and the players have to accept that Mastermind's are a bit more complex than other archtypes, and thus have different requirements to play. This design acceptence is one of the reasons Mastermind's are being placed behind a pay-wall for CoH: Freedom.

Okay. Hold up.

If you do actually understand both sides of the issue, which powers are such big mistakes that they NEED to be removed?

So... you do not agree with the Cottage rule...

But you do not understand why the developers obey the Cottage rule.

*headtilt* ... ... hang on a minute... Did you not just say you understood both sides of the issue?

I need a diagram just to figure out what you are trying say.

So let's start over.

Can you, if possible, give us a list of powers that are so awful, such big mistakes, that the only possible way to fix those mistakes is to REMOVE said powers?

So far throughout this thread every power that somebody has claimed "needs" to be removed has fallen into two categories:

• A: shown to either be an excellent utility power
• B: can be adjusted within the cottage rules

Nobody, as of yet, has been able to provide an example of a power so bad that the only possible solution to players not using it is to simply delete the entire power outright.