Idea for new powerset: Rope Manipulation


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Hi all,

With only 6 different secondaries to choose from as a Blaster, I feel like Blasters could use a few more secondaries. Don't get me wrong, I like the secondaries that exist already... even Devices. However, with the Pistol primary, I wish there were a secondary that would allow me to make... say, a cowboy/cowgirl.... or even a "all-natural" human character (aka, someone who does not shoot fire or ice out of his/her fingertips).

So, I was thinking, what might work. Hence, I came up with the notion of Rope Manipulation.

* Lasso: Single-Target, Ranged Immobilize (Rope loop around person's legs)
* Hog Tied: Single-Target, Ranged Hold (Rope loop around person's arms and legs)
* Climb: Travel Power (similar to a Teleport)
* Trip Up: Single-Target, Ranged Knockdown (Rope loop around person's feet)
* Jump-Rope: 10-20sec, Self + Recharge (You exercise and work up a sweat)
* Rope Burn: 10-20 sec, Self (Adds Fire Damage to other Rope Manipulation powers)
* Bondage: Single-Target, Ranged, Damage Hold (Hog Tied, but really really tight)
* Hang Him: Single-Target, High Damage Immobilize (Person hangs from a tree)
* Rope Trap: Location, AOE Immobilize (like a trip mine, but no damage, does an immob)

Just a thought.


 

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How about Rope Domination?

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Originally Posted by JohnnyKilowatt View Post
How about Rope Domination?

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Okay, YOU be the one to tell War Witch and Tunnel Rat they have to model for the animations

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*bluntness*

Pretty bad concept and design. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to not make this look dumb and dorky?

How would [Climb] be helpful? [Rope Burn]? Really did you run out of ideas? Jump Rope? Really?? I can go to youtube to watch some one jump rope. How in the world would [Hang Him] work? and do you realize how quickly you would get lynched by the feminists by implying that only Male mobs can be hung.

Looks like an attempt to make a Rope Control set, not a Blaster's Manipulation set. Most of the powers would do little to no damage. How would this be good for a Blaster... who is supposed to do damage.

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Won't happen probably. They regret how much massive work it was to make just the 3 animations needed for the flame whip that Demon Summoners use (masterminds.)


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Pope Manipulation?
That sounds like a set that wouldn't be much use outside of the Vatican.
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Not to be rude, but is this a serious suggestion? "Rope Manipulation" sounds utterly ludicrous as a powerset. Aside from just being completely impractical, how long would Jump Rope's animation be? What kind of hero just, in the middle of combat, starts playing jump rope to work up a sweat? Why would I take Hog-tied if I could just get Bondage later? Plus, you'd have to keep the rope on the enemy for it to look good, and even then it would still look ridiculous.


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Originally Posted by JohnnyKilowatt View Post
How about Rope Domination?

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Well that's certainly ... more PC ... than the way I misread the title. :P

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It could be exactly like Spider-Man, 'cept where he uses webs, we use ropes, but everything else is the same. We could even have rope-shooters. It could work...


 

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"That's stupid! Name one thing you're gonna need a rope for!"
"You don't know what you're gonna need it for, you just always need it!"


 

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SS/Rope Tanker = Wonder Woman


 

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So....Mistress Ropes?


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Just a thought.
You do know this game is rated T and not M, right?


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You do know this game is rated T and not M, right?
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Dominatrix
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Praetori...t_.28minion.29
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Praetori...8lieutenant.29
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Praetorians#Lady_.28boss.29

The particular envelope of bondage has already been... pressed. Given the comic-book nature of City of Heroes, there is ample prior art such as line up of various Detective Magazines featuring attractively clad females in various states of restraint; neverminding the... ahem... stuff Frank Miller has been responsible for.

Now, there is a question as to how much this game, City of Heroes could get away with before hitting an M rating. Would a power-set based on Shibari / Kinbaku really press into M rated territory? Would it really be any more sensually suggestive than implications that the various Tentacle based powers already create?

(As a note, the following links show nothing explicit, and I don't think the violate the forum T.O.S., but I would not recommend opening them with wild abandon)

Would costumes based on Lolita Fashion, Spreading rompers, Autumn's Bondilocks, or just something little kinky like gags and blindfolds, really push a Teen Rating more-so than the lack of clothing that is currently possible to achieve in the game? Would adding a bit of "fetish" type wear really be so different from the various chains, meshes, and other costume parts already in the game?

My own personal opinion is that such "fetish" type costume parts or power-sets could probably be introduced into the game while retaining a "teen" rating, just based on the precedent of what is already in the game. However, it is also my opinion that the developers would probably NOT be comfortable with the idea of creating powers influenced by Shibari / Kinbaku, or adding costume parts inspired by Sub-Shop or Adult-Baby-Shop.eu.


 

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Originally Posted by _Pine_ View Post
*bluntness*

Pretty bad concept and design. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to not make this look dumb and dorky?

How would [Climb] be helpful? [Rope Burn]? Really did you run out of ideas? Jump Rope? Really?? I can go to youtube to watch some one jump rope. How in the world would [Hang Him] work? and do you realize how quickly you would get lynched by the feminists by implying that only Male mobs can be hung.

Looks like an attempt to make a Rope Control set, not a Blaster's Manipulation set. Most of the powers would do little to no damage. How would this be good for a Blaster... who is supposed to do damage.

*like a mother*

Well Timmy, I think if you really believe this is a good idea, I want you to believe as hard as you can. Because only through believing will you be able to achieve your dreams.

Bluntness part two

I am not even sure what all would be involved in coding this set so it works. Now Plant control works because it simply wraps around the body and squeezes but you are talking physicaly binding arms and legs.

Second is the whole Polically correct, dear G O D don't cost us our rating, issue. You have one power that will hang an enemy by the neck... this generally results in death by asphyxiation and no one ever really dies in the COH universe we defeat them! period Then of course you have a power called bondage.. I can just hear the parents screaming bloody murder over that one.

Frankly between the issues I see trying to write code for this .. since some one else already mentioned they had issues just making the lash in Demon Summoning work and the uproar some of you powers names and described features will cause I don't ever see this happening


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I'd rather see something that feels more like a Gadgety/Martial arts mix that might involve hogtying or handcuffing opponents, or some other similar lockdown. Something like this could be doable for controllers, as it stands there isn't something that feels really Gadgety like that yet.

The Best 'Gadget' Sets I can think of really come in the form of the Veats and Trick Arrow/Archery. Would be nice though to see a way where a little kung fu and some dirty tricks could mix in well for these types of heroes (like Batman).

I realize there's Robot & Traps & Devices. Boy I wish devices had given us a couple of Jump Kicks or a Cool punch or two. I think this would probably work a little better than something that worked solely on hogtying opponents with a rope.


 

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Originally Posted by Kokoro View Post
Hi all,

With only 6 different secondaries to choose from as a Blaster, I feel like Blasters could use a few more secondaries. Don't get me wrong, I like the secondaries that exist already... even Devices. However, with the Pistol primary, I wish there were a secondary that would allow me to make... say, a cowboy/cowgirl.... or even a "all-natural" human character (aka, someone who does not shoot fire or ice out of his/her fingertips).

So, I was thinking, what might work. Hence, I came up with the notion of Rope Manipulation.

* Lasso: Single-Target, Ranged Immobilize (Rope loop around person's legs)
* Hog Tied: Single-Target, Ranged Hold (Rope loop around person's arms and legs)
* Climb: Travel Power (similar to a Teleport)
* Trip Up: Single-Target, Ranged Knockdown (Rope loop around person's feet)
* Jump-Rope: 10-20sec, Self + Recharge (You exercise and work up a sweat)
* Rope Burn: 10-20 sec, Self (Adds Fire Damage to other Rope Manipulation powers)
* Bondage: Single-Target, Ranged, Damage Hold (Hog Tied, but really really tight)
* Hang Him: Single-Target, High Damage Immobilize (Person hangs from a tree)
* Rope Trap: Location, AOE Immobilize (like a trip mine, but no damage, does an immob)

Just a thought.
What's with all the hate? Rope isn't a bad secondary (and yes, I agree that the lynching thing is ungood), but why blast the OP? Rope could be good as a secondary blaster set, geesh, we already randomly freeze them in chilblain while blasting them with fire (should make a sauna not a dead baddie), so this doesn't exactly slip through the realms of super-reality.


 

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Originally Posted by Blackdragon1686 View Post
"That's stupid! Name one thing you're gonna need a rope for!"
"You don't know what you're gonna need it for, you just always need it!"
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