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Well, you may have been scooped slightly, but this is still invaluable as a learning experience, as I imagine I'll want to do things like this in the future as well. Thank you for all the effort that went into posting this guide.

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Scrapper, Stalker 2,200% at level 1
3,000% at level 20+

Brute, Tanker 2,100% at level 1
2,500% at level 20+

all others 2,000%


Source: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Limits...h_Regeneration

On my WP/Brute, I am entirely capable of gaining a little over 1100% Regeneration on my own when abusing a fully saturated Rise to the Challenge. That means I only need 1400% more in order to reach the cap.

An Empath giving you Regenerative Aura/Adrenaline Rush should be able to get you at the Regeneration Cap.

I seem to be favoring Tough/Weave on most of my characters. Assault and Vengeance are also nice additions for characters that are using the Leadership pool (which is a lot of them.)

Does anyone know how to add inherent powers to mids?

The fact that you have to constantly elaborate upon your video should give you some idea of how poorly your video was constructed.

You can't turn in a term paper and then, when assaulted by evil red pen markings, go to your professor and say "This is what I REALLY meant, I demand you re-evaluate my paper."

CoH is in a stable state of survival because it isn't a typical MMO. Typical MMO fans run around like lunatics to whatever the next game featuring a half-naked elf is. That's why you see such games spike in numbers and then die off as they do.

CoH is stable because it ISN'T offering something every MMO is going to give you. If you want CoH, you go to CoH. If you want WoW you go... Pretty much everywhere. I'll agree that the demand for more fantasy RPG's is big, and the allure of such a demand is a mighty temptress for new development, but if you truly want to SURVIVE, and do WELL at surviving, you need to fill a niche nothing else in the ecosystem is filling.

I usually begin to enjoy my Scrapper once he has his mez protection sorted out, and then even more once he has his endurance issues sorted out. After that they just become exponentially more awesome every level.

Even if you are capped for LoTG, there are still OTHER things you can do to increase your characters performance. Even if you still need to use the slots in Stamina, there are still plenty of powers that give decent benefit without much slotting.

No matter how I look at it, this is a BUFF to everyone, and probably a slightly careless one at that. While I like it, in the way every child enjoys getting a giant lazer cannon for Christmas, I'm not sure I like how this effects certain builds.

I'm reserving final judgment for when it's actually, you know, implemented.

*EDIT*

Just looking at my DP/WP Brute, I am now going to be able to slot Tough/Weave onto my character where as before I substituted those powers with Darkest Night, which was simply numerically superior against everything except AV's, where the To-Hit portion is lowered from a value of 16.5% to a little under 3% (the damage debuff is unaffected however.)

With this change I will now always be at the soft-cap against AV's, and have quite a bit of defense OVER the soft-cap in every other encounter to deal with defense debuffs (And because a lot of my net "defense" is tied into To-Hit Debuffs, that means I'm even better at mitigating enemy DefDebuffs than normal). My S/L resistance will also go up from a value of 53% to about 70%. Add in RttC, High Pain Tolerance, and the ability to spam the Attack Vitals combo back to back, and I have gotten quite ridiculous indeed.

My loss in doing all of this? I took two slots out of Health that where only there because I ran out of a good place to put slots. In other words, about 0.23 less health per second and a bit more endurance per second from the new toggles (-0.42 End/s, but that still leaves me with +2.2 End/s to go bat**** with, and my attacks don't cost much endurance with IO's anyway). I think I'll be able to live with that~

When my little brother was about 2-3 he used to demand that my Step-Father play "Hutt"

"Hutt" being the sound a male character makes when it jumps. Of course when we let him make a character my Step Father named it "Hutt".

The Tanker AT.

I like the Tanker, as a friend, but he's just not my type.

Check out this link: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Damage_Scale

Corruptors do more damage per hit because their damage scale is at 0.75 as opposed to defender's 0.65. If an attack is normally calculated as doing 100 damage (Known as the powers BASE damage in my example), then it will do 75 damage for a corrupter, and 65 for a defender, a difference of 10.

If the attack has a BASE damage of 200, then it will do 150 for a Corrupter, and 130 for the Defender, a difference of 20 damage.

For 300 we get; Corruptor: 225; Defender: 195; Difference: 30

The more damage the attack does, the more effective it will be for a Corruptor over a Defender as their higher Damage Scale doesn't divide the BASE damage of an attack as much as it would for a Defender.

Vigilance offers a Defender a 30% damage buff while solo. Damage buffs, to my knowledge, is calculated after you have factored in the specific Archetypes Damage Scaler. So, for the purposes of a Defender, if they have a power which deals 100 damage at its' base, thus 65 damage for the Defender, that means that once you factor in the 30% Damage Buff from Vigilance the attack shall do 78 damage. This is THREE (3) damage more than the Corruptor will do.


SCOURGE is a bit more difficult to calculate because it is very dependent upon how close the enemy is to being defeated outright. SCOURGE does nothing until the enemy has been taken down to 50% of its' health, at which point SCOURGE allows the Corruptor a 10% chance to do a critical hit against the enemy. As the enemy's HP continues to dwindle, the Critical Hit Chance of SCOURGE continues to rise, becoming 100% when the enemy is at 10% of its' health.

SCOURGE is vastly more effective against stronger enemies who have more HP. For things like Minions, who have vastly inferior HP to a Boss, the SCOURGE damage is often going to wind up "wasted" in the sense that you often didn't need a critical hit to defeat it making the extra damage from SCOURGE unnecessary. However, for enemies like Lt's, Bosses, AV's, and even GM's, Scourge offers a very potent damage increase because these enemies have enough HP for the extra damage from a SCOURGE to be effective.

Paragonwiki states SCOURGE as giving a 10% chance to critical when the enemy is at 50% of it's HP, and 100% when it is at 10% of its' HP. From that, I infer these values based on the formula of y = -2.25x + 1.225 where X is the percentage of HP the enemy has left, and Y is the percent chance to do a critical hit:

50% HP; 10.0% Critical Hit Chance
40% HP; 32.5% Critical Hit Chance
30% HP; 55.5% Critical Hit Chance
20% HP; 77.5% Critical Hit Chance
10% HP; 100% Critical Hit Chance

Note: I do not know whether the critical hit chance continues to increase for values of HP under 10%. I also do not know if the game actually uses this formula for calculating Critical Hit Chance based upon enemy HP; It's simply a logical conclusion from the data points I was given from Paragonwiki (http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Scourge#Scourge)

The formula to determine the average damage after factoring in critical chance is:

Base Damage * (1 + Percent Chance to do a Critical Hit) = Average Damage

So if we have a 100% chance to do a critical hit, that means that the AVERAGE damage is going to be two times that of our base damage. If our base damage is 100, that means that, at 100% chance to critical, our Average Damage will be 200.

100 * (1 + 1)
100 * 2 = 200

SO, for the purposes of comparing a Corruptor's SCOURGE to a Defender's VIGILANCE bonus when solo, we are going to compare their damage against an enemy at variable percentages of HP.

100-51% HP; Corruptor: 75 Damage; Defender: 78 Damage

50% HP; Corr: 82.5; Def: 78
40% HP; Corr: 99.375; Def:78
30% HP; Corr: 116.625; Def: 78
20% HP; Corr: 133.125; Def: 78
10% HP; Corr: 150; Def: 78

Even at just 50% of the enemy's HP, the Corruptor already has a distinct advantage in damage over Defender. If the Defender is on a Team, and not receiving a 30% damage boost from Vigilance then this advantage only becomes more dramatic as the defender is reduced from 78 damage back to 65. Keep in mind also that powers which do more base damage are going to continue favoring the Corruptor more so than the Defender, and with the addition of Scourge, widen the gap between the two even more.


The other major discrepancy is in the buff values between Defender and Corruptor. As a Defender uses higher buff values than a Corruptor, he is capable of bestowing larger damage buffs upon himself than a Corruptor could using the same powers. Very large damage buffs, such as those offered by powers like Fulcrum Shift, will favor the Defender far more than the Corruptor due to the multiplicative way in which buff values are calculated, while small damage buffs will have relatively little impact.

Using our old formula, and adding in Damage Buff Modifiers, we get a new formula which looks like this:

(Base Damage * (1 + Percent Damage Modifier)) * (1 + Percent Chance to Critical Hit)

Fulcrum Shift offers continuously higher damage buff values the more enemies are hit with the effect, and both Corruptors and Defenders have access to it. As such, it is a good power to demonstrate the different effect Buff Modifiers have upon each AT. Notice that we are still going to be calculating in SCOURGE and Vigilance while we do this.

Fulcrum Shift at 1 Enemy: Corrupter: 20% DamBuff; Defender: 25% Dambuff
100-51% HP; Corr: 90; Def: 97.5
50% HP; Corr: 99; Def: 97.5
40% HP; Corr: 119.25; Def: 97.5
30% HP; Corr: 139.95; Def: 97.5
20% HP; Corr: 159.75; Def: 97.5
10% HP; Corr: 180; Def: 97.5

Fulcrum Shift at 3 Enemies: Corrupter: 60% DamBuff; Defender: 75% DamBuff
100-51% HP; Corr: 120; Def: 136.5
50% HP; Corr: 132; Def: 136.5
40% HP; Corr: 150; Def: 136.5
30% HP; Corr: 186.6; Def: 136.5
20% HP; Corr: 213; Def: 136.5
10% HP; Corr: 240; Def: 136.5

Fulcrum Shift at 10 Enemies: Corrupter: 200% DamBuff; Defender: 250% DamBuff
100-51% HP; Corr: 225; Def: 273
50% HP; Corr: 247; Def: 273
40% HP; Corr: 298.125; Def: 273
30% HP; Corr: 349.875; Def: 273
20% HP; Corr: 399.375; Def: 273
10% HP; Corr: 450; Def: 273


Now, this chart seems as though it's still giving favor over towards the Corruptor. Even at fully power Fulcrum Shift, once the enemy is at 40%, the Corruptor is doing better damage than the defender. However, what really needs to be kept in mind is that from 100% to 50% HP, the Defender is doing quite a bit more damage than the Corruptor is capable.

Let us examine an enemy that has about 3000 HP. We're going to assume that we used Fulcrum Shift, and then blew up everything around him, so it's just us vs this enemy with our fully saturated Fulcrum Shift. We'll continue to use our Theoretical Attack, which is assumed to be shared by the Defender and Corruptor, and thus things like RECHARGE TIME and ACTIVATION TIME are irrelevant. Instead, we will simply examine this Theoretical Attack in the number of "Turns" it must be used when modified by the AT using it to defeat this enemy.

Keep in mind that this is still assuming AVERAGE damage for simplicities sake. The only other method of calculating percent chance would require that I make an entirely separate chart for every Phase in which a critical hit was possible: One to Calculate if the attack was a critical, and one if it was not. I would very quickly be making waaaay more charts than I care to type out.

Phase 1:
Corruptor Deals 225 Damage; Enemy: 2775 HP (92%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 2725 HP (90%)

Phase2:
Corruptor Deals 225 Damage; Enemy: 2550 HP (85%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 2452 HP (81%)

Phase3:
Corruptor Deals 225 Damage; Enemy: 2325 HP (77%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 2178 HP (72%)

Phase4:
Corruptor Deals 225 Damage; Enemy: 2100 HP (70%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 1905 HP ( 63%)

Phase 5:
Corruptor Deals 225 Damage; Enemy: 1875 HP (62%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 1632 HP (54%)

Phase 6:
Corruptor Deals 225 Damage; Enemy: 1650 HP (55%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy 1349 HP (45%)

Phase 7:
Corruptor Deals 225 Damage; Enemy: 1425 HP (47%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 1122 HP (37%)

Phase 8:
Curroptor Deals 247 Damage; Enemy: 1178 HP (39%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 849 (28%)

Phase 9:
Corruptor Deals 298.125 Damage; Enemy: 879.875 HP (29%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 576 HP (19%)

Phase 10:
Corruptor Deals 349.875 Damage; Enemy: 530 HP (17%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 303 HP (10%)

Phase 11:
Corruptor Deals 399.375 Damage; Enemy: 130 HP (4%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: 30 HP (1%)

Phase 12:
Corrupter Deals 450 Damage; Enemy: -320 HP (Less than 0%)
Defender Deals 273 Damage; Enemy: -243 HP (Less than 0%)

As it would appear, both AT's actually wind up finishing off their enemy at the exact same time, while solo, when receiving the full benefit of Fulcrum Shift. Keep in mind, however, that at much lower dambuff values, such as 20%, the Corruptor would have pulled ahead of the Defender in damage much sooner, and have been able to kill the enemy faster as a result. If the Defender is on a team, the Corruptors advantage would have been even greater. Still, this should demonstrate the power of a Defender when factoring in it's larger buff multiplier.

Finally, it is important to note that a Corrupter has a larger DamBuff cap than a Defender (500% vs 400%). At this high of a value, Corruptor will simply be doing more damage no matter what. Still, the only way to sustain this type of dambuff is to be on a team, and at the point where this is possible enemies are dying so fast that the question of who is doing the most damage is kind've irrelevant. As such, I consider this a moot point.



BOTTOM LINE: a Corruptor is going to be doing more damage than a Defender when primary and secondaries match, except in a few very specific cases in which they'll actually be finishing off the enemy at about the same time. While a Defender can be competitive in damage against a Corruptor while solo, once they are both in a Team a Corrupter WILL do more damage than a Defender assuming equal buffs, and a Defender will ALWAYS buff better than a Corruptor.

Not in this game, but Xyphos Celestian. Xiphos being a type of weapon, and Celestial relating to divinity. His name was therefore "Divine Weapon."

He was a Necromancer.

A guy from Praetoria isn't really going to know what an Arachnos or Kheldian is when they step out, so it doesn't really make sense that they should unlock the EAT. The EAT's are too heavily integrated into the story of the rest of the Game to just plop them down in the Praetorian's lap.

A new player is eventually going to start in Paragon or the Isles', just to experience all the game has to offer.

Still, I'm betting the reason the EAT's don't unlock is because Praetoria is going to have its' own faction story going on. There's tons to pick from. Clockwork, PPD, Ghouls, and Syndicate to name a few.

It doesn't hurt to PM a moderator. I beleive Sexy Jay is the one you want in this case.

All Tanks should mitigate damage.

Not all Tanks use Taunt to mitigate damage.

A dead enemy does Zero damage.

Furries man, what are you gonna do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvAi8V84z0g <-- This guy.

So long as you have a wall.

ITT: Silverado gets pissy because Arcanaville decided to expand on something he didn't point out, and is taking it super personally.

Some enemies in Praetoria have defense.

Perhaps I should revise my post so that I actually have some reasoning behind my decision.

I would rather see the core powers of the Kheldians revised than the addition of new powers that are meant to replace the lackluster abilities within a Kheldian, specifically the Peacebringer.

After this, maybe add PPP's, but until then it's not where I want the focus.