Build up proc in tactics ?


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who will be affected by the guassian set proc of buildup if it is slotted in my 'Tactics' ?

will my bots?

will my team mates?

does this also mean that if I slot a buildup proc in my one of my bot slots, that all my bots get buildup or just that actually bot that hit a mob to 'proc' it ?

please help me with this if you can


 

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Please read the proc.

If it says "Target" then it's whoever is targeted by the proc (so everyone under the effect of your Tactics). If "Caster" then it's just you.


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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
Please read the proc.

If it says "Target" then it's whoever is targeted by the proc (so everyone under the effect of your Tactics). If "Caster" then it's just you.
The Gaussian's Chance for Build Up IO is not going to cast Build Up on everyone within range of your Tactics. Only the Caster of Tactics, and not very often at that. The target for Tactics is the Caster.

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If you are using Gaussian's, you typically want the entirety of the set for the defense bonus, though the endurance recovery and damage buff aren't shabby.


 

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I couldn't recall which Gaussin's was (was thinking caster, though).

For pets, if you were able to slot it into a pet it would have a chance to trigger for each individual pet whenever the power that the pet has that takes the proc triggers/is used.


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thankyou both very much


 

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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
I couldn't recall which Gaussin's was (was thinking caster, though).

For pets, if you were able to slot it into a pet it would have a chance to trigger for each individual pet whenever the power that the pet has that takes the proc triggers/is used.
Is there a pet set you can slot it into though?


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Originally Posted by Warkupo View Post
The Gaussian's Chance for Build Up IO is not going to cast Build Up on everyone within range of your Tactics. Only the Caster of Tactics, and not very often at that. The target for Tactics is the Caster.

(http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...cs&at=Scrapper)

If you are using Gaussian's, you typically want the entirety of the set for the defense bonus, though the endurance recovery and damage buff aren't shabby.
Its not that often, but it is plenty often. the only downside is the short duration. It checks every 10 seconds the toggle is turned on.

Some prefer to put it in build up, giving a fallacious argument about "wasted" chances to fire. Unless you hit buildup every 10 seconds during combat, slotting it in tactics or focussed accuracy means it goes of MORE often than if you put it in buildup.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
Its not that often, but it is plenty often.
Well which is it?

After 90 seconds, the recharge of Build Up, you have a 45% chance that the power should have gone off. After 180 seconds, that rises to 90%. You can expect the build up to occur after about 190 seconds have passed, but that's not a guarantee. Also, you might not even be fighting when it DOES go off.

Still, it's a percent chance. I After three minutes I expect it to go off, but it might just ignore me for another 2 minutes, or it might activate twice in a row.

I don't think it's that great. I definitely wouldn't slot it without the whole set to take advantages of set bonuses. As it is, I think of it as a pleasant bonus, but nothing I'm relying on to increase my damage in any significant fashion.

Otherwise you are right. Basically, unless you have a power that can accept it, and cycles faster than 10 seconds, you're better off putting it in a toggle.


 

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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
Some prefer to put it in build up,
Because then they can say "Yo dawg I heard u like buildup so we put a buildup in yo buildup so you can buildup when you buildup".




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Because then they can say "Yo dawg I heard u like buildup so we put a buildup in yo buildup so you can buildup when you buildup".
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Because then they can say "Yo dawg I heard u like buildup so we put a buildup in yo buildup so you can buildup when you buildup".
haha, That is awesome. You win this thread!


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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
I couldn't recall which Gaussin's was (was thinking caster, though).

For pets, if you were able to slot it into a pet it would have a chance to trigger for each individual pet whenever the power that the pet has that takes the proc triggers/is used.
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They have Tactics. So it would affect themselves atleast.


 

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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
For pets, if you were able to slot it into a pet it would have a chance to trigger for each individual pet whenever the power that the pet has that takes the proc triggers/is used.
Like all procs it has a chance to go off when the power is activated, and then every 10 seconds in a toggle.

If they ever create a pet with claws and follow up, then this would have a chance to fire each time the pet used follow up. Note that it is a chance not guaranteed.

This is currently how the soulbound proc works. It has a chance to trigger on you when you summon the pet, then it has a chance to trigger on the pet every time it uses any attack at all. Very handy.

@Chaos_Reaver: But they only "use" tactics when first summoned and upon zoning. So it would "only" be checking every 10 seconds.


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