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Ice/time is incredibly enjoyable, but this must be stated: the end drain hurts me soooooo bad.

Not exactly what I meant. I don't want them "not particularly bright," I want to know if I can make them dark.

My comment regarding web grenade wasn't that it's a bad power, but that it's one that I just don't want first. It's on my traps/dark defender and it's great. I just take it a little later.

Storm isn't something I'd considered as a pairing...hmm...

Seconded. This character would just be irritating.

I would play a mastermind if this were real.

I'm not sure I agree with your sentiments. In groups, I find elec control characters' roles changed from a "haha, you're sapped and totally my biotch!" to a "haha, you're slept/knocked down/confused so my friends can get the drop on you!" You just prioritize certain attacks once the initial strike is made by the team. And if you're in a group, odds are you're not running even con minions -- jolting chain's going to be incredibly useful just knocking things down, not around.

Seconded.

Explain the "snub" to me, and if you say, "Well, fortitude should be getting the same treatment as the shields!" I will reach through the internet and smack you for your stupidity.

No offense, but random post is really, really random.

To Madamme Mayhem: I agree with Big_Soto, leadership will benefit you and your team immensely. I'd go with that over fighting.

I disagree that this would be described as "limited" in terms of contribution. I'd call this "adaptable."

A little vague for my tastes, but the idea fits well with a dark theme. How much is "some of your health" and how much is healed? The amount sacrificed compared to the amount healed would have to be disproportionate to be worth anything, but in that case, the recharge would have to change to something longer. If you want to keep the recharge as is, the amount sacrificed and healed would have to be dropped substantially to levels approaching something similar to storm's O2 boost, but with maybe a bit more healed.

I kinda like this -- it's almost a teaching tool for targeted toggles. Are you talking hasten-like recovery or slowed to a crawl recovery?

A griefer's new favorite weapon. A "huge" penalty to accuracy is too much. Inspirations to re-up myself to the level that I once was at should not be required to make this power likeable.

Phase, again, takes things completely out of sync, meaning they can neither hit or be hit. I see where you're getting the idea from dark miasma (lol black hole...), but this would make characters nigh unkillable.

I'm not sure what to think of this power. I'll come back and edit this part when I think about it more.

Really clunky wording. Technically, "crossing the divide" would be completed when the character comes back to live. I like the mechanics, but your description needs work.

A very, very small boost, sure. Mere single digit percentage points is all this could grant, and it'd have to be capped at a certain number, otherwise it would be abused. Put this in a BAF fight? Team full of juggernauts.

Change the name. Also, change the effects. Way too overpowered, unfortunately. Your next power might not cost any endurance, but that would be about it.

No, can't work. Nope, never. Not in a million years. You're trapping them, you're neutering them, you're making them melt. It's way, way too strong for a controller secondary t9. It's like an aoe lightning storm with more damage, stupid-high debuff, wrapped around a brute and put on a 4 minute recharge. It's gamebreakingly good.

I really like the idea for the sets (and holy god do I want some kind of dark sets for controllers) but you're basically creating tanks out of characters that aren't meant to be. Even without IOs and temps and procs, a lot of these powers by themselves are just so incredibly powerful that they don't even compare to any potential shortcomings the sets might have.

Not what Local Man is saying at all. Control sets follow a pattern and, while there is slight variance, they can't veer too far off course. Just because you want to make it different doesn't mean go so far out of bounds, which, I agree with him, you appear to have done.

Unrelated. Petrifying gaze is a defender primary power, and it's very likely one big reason why controllers will never get dark miasma (although I yearn for it).

That's his point, though, and you've missed it. One debuff is spiffy for a power. Two is a bit much. There's a reason why your grav controller's crushing field doesn't have this second debuff -- because it would be a bit much.

Except no controller primary power will ever have anything over moderate damage (save for spectral wounds, which trades control for damage). Freezing rain is nothing like this. With containment, you're setting yourself up to do a huge amount of damage, regardless of what the damage modifier for controllers is. Illogical comparison.

You're using the word phase, which in this game, has a very specific meaning. Yes, you mention that it grants a defense buff, but Local Man is right, this is in the wrong place if you want to keep it this way. A more appropriate power would be something akin to the shadowy damage aura of Tsoo Sorcerers or CoT Spectral Demon Lords. Chill of Night would be the perfect power here, because it would be similar to what fire controllers have, but with a -acc component.

Is this a power in any powerset? No. End of discussion. Simply because a power exists in game does not mean it belongs in a powerset. There's a reason it's a temp.

Sorry, not quite seeing your objection to his comments here. You've effectively combined two types of powers, aoe hold and a targeted aoe debuff, into something so unique that it shouldn't exist. I can see where you got the idea, though -- electric control has something similar in conductive aura, but it isn't a hold. Something like this would work much better if it were 1) a targeted aoe, and 2) something other than a hold -- perhaps a slow, coupled with a more substantial -acc.

No, he's correct. Boosts have no place in a controller primary. This belongs in the secondary and, in the case of controller secondaries AND defender primaries, these types of incredibly substantial boosts cannot affect the player using them. It's either dumbed down and it can affect you or it remains as is and affects maybe one other player and has a much longer recharge.

I see your point, but I see his too. Drop it to two, hope to god they're programmed to be smarter than Jack, and it's fine. The reason fire gets three is because they're melee and not hugely well endowed in the defense department. Stoney can survive melee quite well, hence there's only one of him. These sound similar to elec pets (who have that damned jolting chain), but they would likely stay out of melee. Slightly more damage, slower attack cycles, same defense you intended.

Entirely out of line. You don't get a compliment sandwich all the time, so don't expect it. He's giving you feedback -- good, sound feedback -- and you just don't like it. Your characterization of "slight tweaks" doesn't exactly fit the bill, to be honest. You're ramping up a controller primary to hit like a freight train.

Guess what: you're not designing for you. You're designing for the players of the game. Simply because you don't like dominators doesn't mean that something that could very well be used for them won't be.