Random Thought: on the new Dom set


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I know that the devs are working on a new set for Dom (not sure if Controller gets it as well since I only follow the news here loosely). I am happy to wait for it.

I recently 'spring cleaned' some of my characters and suddenly something crossed my mind: why can't we group together some of the existing powers (like Web Grenade, Caltrops) and some temp/inherent powers (like Taser, Stun Grenade, Smoke Flash) to make a new controll set in a gadgeteer theme? I know this must have been suggested a thousands times but I just don't understand why it hasn't happened yet?

Actually I have this idea vaguely after the last proliferation list came out. And yes, I was as shocked as most others when Dom got nothing. Then I thought the devs might not want to undercut into the uniqueness and exclusivity of those temp powers. But after weeks of playing (iTrial mostly), for some reasons I don't see it that way any more. Besides, none of those powers I mentioned above seem to be 'that good' to have to be seperated as a temp power.

I suppose the ST and AoE immos can use Web Grenades; ST and AoE holds can use Tasers; add a Smoke Flash or Caltrops in as a soft control; (modified) Gun Drone as pet; and a few more in between; then done - quick and easy new set of recycling stuff.

How hard can it be?


 

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No, we don't know that. All we know is that the devs are doing "something" for Dominators. I don't believe it's been said that it's a new set.


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It is a new set.

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Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
Going to nip this potential rumor in the bud. There is no immediate plan to revamp, remove, alter, change, nerf or buff this archetype as a whole. I never said changes were coming. I said we had plans for the archetype. As in plans for power sets. So, stay tuned for that in the future! (And by future I mean post I21.)

Also, if you didn't see your set proliferated it is likely because we plan on having another round (or rounds) of proliferation in future issues and we only had enough time to implement as many sets as we did.

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New sets. But I had forgotten that post.


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Using powers already in the game, you can kinda cobble together a Tech Control set:

* Web Grenade
* Web Coccoon
* Wide Area Web Grenade
* Caltrops
* Taser
* Sleep Grenade
* Stun Grenade
* EM Pulse/EMP Arrow/EMP Grenade/Something EMPy
* Flying Turret(s) of some sort


 

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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect View Post
Using powers already in the game, you can kinda cobble together a Tech Control set:

* Web Grenade
* Web Coccoon
* Wide Area Web Grenade
* Caltrops
* Taser
* Sleep Grenade
* Stun Grenade
* EM Pulse/EMP Arrow/EMP Grenade/Something EMPy
* Flying Turret(s) of some sort
That's a lot of grenades.... with none of them actually dealing (more than utterly trivial) damage.

That just ain't right.


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Honestly, hoping for a dark primary/secondary combo. With all the dark sets currently available, putting one together for dominators shouldn't be all that difficult.


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Originally Posted by Oathbound_Too View Post
That's a lot of grenades.... with none of them actually dealing (more than utterly trivial) damage.

That just ain't right.
If it's like Tesla Cage, they can buff the damage for Controllers and Dominators. (-:

Edit:
I mean Tesla Grenade


 

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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect View Post
Using powers already in the game, you can kinda cobble together a Tech Control set:

* Web Grenade
* Web Coccoon
* Wide Area Web Grenade
* Caltrops
* Taser
* Sleep Grenade
* Stun Grenade
* EM Pulse/EMP Arrow/EMP Grenade/Something EMPy
* Flying Turret(s) of some sort
Worth noting that Caltrops would be MUCH larger than the Blaster/Traps version - see also, Ice Patch vs Ice Slick. Also Taser is single target. Single Target disorients are for Melee and Ranged Sets - we'd get the TASER SHOCKWAVE!

-please note that it would have a cast time of 6 seconds.


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Add some electric or energy damage to the tasers or some toxic damage to the webs. Caltrops comes with damage anyway. There, damage (of course, modify the values bringing in line with other sets).

I do believe that this can be done cheaply just by recycling some existing powers.


 

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Originally Posted by Angelic_EU View Post
I do believe that this can be done cheaply just by recycling some existing powers.
However, do we really want a cheap set full of knockoff powers? Or a new set full of brand new powers & animations?


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They never said they were working on any new sets, they only said they had plans. That doesn't mean anything's actually in the works.


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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade View Post
However, do we really want a cheap set full of knockoff powers? Or a new set full of brand new powers & animations?
Both.


 

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Originally Posted by DarkSideLeague View Post
Worth noting that Caltrops would be MUCH larger than the Blaster/Traps version - see also, Ice Patch vs Ice Slick. Also Taser is single target. Single Target disorients are for Melee and Ranged Sets - we'd get the TASER SHOCKWAVE!

-please note that it would have a cast time of 6 seconds.
Honestly there's no reason why a Control set couldn't have a single target disorient. Just none of them currently do. (also Stun Grenade is already an aoe disorient)

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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade View Post
However, do we really want a cheap set full of knockoff powers? Or a new set full of brand new powers & animations?
While I prefer new shinies, I'm perfectly fine with new sets recycling some powers. I don't think I'd care much for new sets made entirely of recycled powers though.


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I might be reading into things too much, but...

The fact that it's been announced as a Dominator set rather than a Control set, or a Controller & Dominator set, seems to be significant. It might be a set the devs have no intention of ever proliferating to Controllers. And the most likely reason the devs would make that decision? If it's a rethemed version of an existing Controller set, a la Empathy vs Pain.

So, yeah, my bet's on Dark Illusions.

But something trapsy like you've suggested would be a pleasant surprise. I'd give it a thumbs up.


 

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Originally Posted by Vanden View Post
They never said they were working on any new sets, they only said they had plans. That doesn't mean anything's actually in the works.
Considering that they excused Dominators not getting anything proliferated with those plans, I find it highly unlikely they aren't planning to do anything.


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