So What is Plan Z?

I've been hearing about it. Is it a plan to jump ship to that new zombie mmo, War Z?

It's a plan by some of the community members over at CoH Titan to make their own super hero MMO with similar mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

Haha, oh wow. Do any of the people over there have any experience in game development?

That is the million dollar question.

If they dont they are about to find out about some things.
If they do, experience might be the least of their worries.

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Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Honestly, I never had any faith in any plan to save this game organized by the community, I just wanted to know what the last ditch effort was for the game. The only game they will be able to make is a sequel to the CoH flash game that was basically a modded version of Superman for the Atari 2600.l

Hey, everybody in this thread? Right here. Look over here please.

Got your attention?

Good.



Is Plan Z going to fail? Yeah, probably, and nobody understands that better than they do. But at least they're trying to do something.

What are you doing? Trolling what's left of a dwindling population.

But it boils down to this: either you're still here because you care about the game and want it to succeed, in which case you should tell the people who are still trying that you wish them good luck and leave it at that if you can't say anything nice, OR you actually want everything to fail and are just here to fiddle while the city burns.

If the latter is true, then please add "with a cactus" to the sentiment in the image above.

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

Basically this. I give it until January/February 2013 until it is completely abandoned. TonyV hasn't even posted on Titan now for a week. I lurk there some times, but don't bother posting there anymore (See Sig).

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Originally Posted by CyberGlitch A couple do. But most are just hobbyists with extremely simplistic views of how software games get written, and overly-inflated views of their mental midgetry in contributing to same. In other words, don't hold your breath. The game you have been playing was one of a kind. Anything else is just going to suck. Witness the multi-million dollar flops than have been DCUO and Champions Online. Really, all the Plan Z people are doing is getting a few people's hopes up only to slink away in shame when they realize how impossible it is for them deliver.

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

Aww yer cute. I actually read the forums there and trust me...they think it is going to be successful and then some. They also think they are responsible for the fluctuations in NCSoft stock prices. They think that after Nov 30th they are going to do such a huge campaign that NCSoft will shudder.. etc etc...

I'm here because I have nostalgia for a game I played for 7+ years. I'm not here to soothe people or hide my beliefs.

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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man Hey, everybody in this thread? Right here. Look over here please. Got your attention? Good. Is Plan Z going to fail? Yeah, probably, and nobody understands that better than they do. But at least they're trying to do something. What are you doing? Trolling what's left of a dwindling population. But it boils down to this: either you're still here because you care about the game and want it to succeed, in which case you should tell the people who are still trying that you wish them good luck and leave it at that if you can't say anything nice, OR you actually want everything to fail and are just here to fiddle while the city burns. If the latter is true, then please add "with a cactus" to the sentiment in the image above.

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

I almost mistook this thread for a fauxnews echo chamber. Taking it to a new level there trolls.

To quote a mod:

Calling someone a troll is...trolling.

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Originally Posted by Ogi I almost mistook this thread for a fauxnews echo chamber. Taking it to a new level there trolls.

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

I admire those players that are putting their efforts together into Plan Z.
I'm an unemployed graphic design and 3D modeler and I know develop something like a videogame is seriously time consuming, but hey, want to tell those guys:
You guys rock!
This may take crazy time, but if u have fun and like what u do in the way, it doesnt matter the final results, and dont care about what people have to say.
People should encourage them, and cheer them! Not try to get their work and hopes down.

I didn't assume it was me. I figured you were talking to Chad.

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Originally Posted by Ogi Who did I call a troll? If you assumed it was you, there's probably a reason for that. I only congratulated the trolls in the thread, I never said or implied who they were.

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

That is the Titan way

You are either 100% with them or you are their enemy, a troll, an NCSoft employee...or all the above.

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Originally Posted by JayboH The hell is the matter with you? You just labeled everyone who has any negative thoughts about Plan Z as a troll? Wow.

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

Common sense is often clouded by emotions and paranoia, but you try telling them that LOL!

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Originally Posted by JayboH When they were talking about emulation and reverse-engineering, I explained that even if the full studio did it, it could still take years and never get anywhere. Many devs left years before the end and didn't properly note everything, and they don't have access to any of that anyway - NCSoft made sure of it.

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

Only if the person relies on emotions to prove a point. I tell people they are wrong all the time, but it doesn't come from an emotional place rather a logical stand point. Emotions can be motivators, but they suck as a form of communication.

I profile/assess murderers, rapists, etc every day - I don't use emotions to tell them they are wrong. People use emotions as a crutch and a scape goat. At the end of the day we are humans who can either take responsibility for what we do...or blame our emotions for our actions.

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Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter Emotions also typically fuel any person's desire to point out to others that they're wrong

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

There can be great strength in body language, which communicates emotions, as does vocal inflection, but yeah, it's a little more difficult on message boards.