So What is Plan Z?

Metaphors seem way too easily lost among the naysayers on this forum. Far more than any other forum I've ever been on, and this includes hot-headed political arguments. It perplexes me how or why this is happening.

Emotions clouding your judgement perhaps and giving you an intense desire to paint the unwavering as psychotic god-warriors on a self-righteous crusade to wipe out the infidels?

Need a non-religious example instead? Would you have responded any differently if I had used Columbus as an example? Or Copernicus? Countless pioneers have endured the kind of ridicule that is being dished out in this thread.

But no no, I'm not trying to say that Plan Z is as important as proving to the world that the Earth orbits the sun, or saving people from a flood. What I'm trying to say though, is that negative reinforcement from society seldom has ANYTHING to do with whether the idea is feasible or not. The guy who first thought up the idea of continental drift got just as much flak for it as the guy who jumped off a bridge flapping his arms with paper wings attached. That one idea was right and the other doomed to fail had zero impact on the living hell that society put those people through.

Social negative reinforcement is absolutely HORRID at telling an individual whether their idea is good or not. Ridicule is largely fueled not by whether the idea may be wrong or can't succeed, but only whether the idea it is different from the acceptable norm. That the ones doing the heckling are usually doing so merely for entertainment doesn't help either. Humans seem to automatically make a connection between 'different' and 'failure', despite the fact that doing something different is the only way that society can ever advance. Therefore, unless ridicule somehow departs from our society, or changes into something with more logical bias, 'insane faith' in oneself is needed to keep us moving forward.

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

After you were admitted to the union I realized they had lowered the standards and by default I had ascended

I apologize for misstating my perspective on this.

It is my perception that NCSoft has failed to account for the differences in functional culture between Korea and North America.

Or in other words, NCSoft has badly misidentified its Western market.

I was not intending my comment to be applied to the entirety of Korean culture, and as such have edited the post accordingly.

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

We shall see.

You said Korean culture degrades our community. You are a racist and a sad, pitiful excuse for a human being. Don't you start walking back your comments now, Mr. Romney. Own your statements.

Uh, not that I want to get in the middle of this, but is there a specific date where you will acknowledge the massive sales of GW2?

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

It's the internet.

Let it go.

Breathe.

Go read something, perhaps?

I think now is a good time to sit back for a moment, and think about SWTOR, a couple months after its massive sales.

Oh just following up on the implications of Tim comparing their community to Noah and the ark.

Well seeing as we are in a biblical frame, it looks like I now know where that cult predicting the end of the world last year wound up.

Enjoy your ascent, hope it isn't an ascent the same way you lot described CoH as healthy and doing well.

Revenue alone does not a success make. Consider the fact that there was a huge problem with hacked accounts just after launch, continual complaints about unfixed bugs, an entire lack of an end game, and the fact that its game play is substandard.

Misstatements are a perfectly legitimate reason for one to issue a correction. Do not presume to conclude that I am a racist based solely on a single statement.

Exactly, not tell your people to follow those rules that they expect others to follow or else then what would be the point in stating it, but not following it themselves?

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

And conveniently ignored my followup to that post. Further convincing me the metaphor was intentionally ignored so it could be used it to say that Titan is becoming a religious cult.

You do understand the GW business model ? They have succeeded in their system and are now making plans for inexpensive to produce expansions and the budget for GW3.

If I were to guess, I'd suspect anything less than GW2 lasting 8 years, regardless of market conditions, overall earnings or sequel planning, will be seen as GW2 failing by comparison to CoX and proof that NCSoft doesn't understand the western market. In the eyes of some, at least.

Ok now if it was one of the people that was percieved to be "against" COHtitan, that guy and you all would be on that person's back like flies to crap and would never let them live it down. But since it's one of your own, it's no big deal.

smh.

"Oh he just made a racist comment. No big deal, he's one of us."

I dont recall Noah and what ever other biblical person or diety or famous exploration person is compared to next being blatant in making a racist comment.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Unfortunately, this is almost certainly the case. I posted earlier that self-aggrandizement was a hallmark of Plan Z participants. There is an aspect of such behavior in any "world-building" team, and some of that is healthy when contrasted against the reality of a timetable. But right now it's overwhelmingly obvious that the world-builders think of themselves as real-world gods (little g) and their definitions of CoH Community are the only one that matters.

This close-mindedness wasn't in place with Cryptic but was in place with the most recent Dev team, the AE bigots and a few of the Cartel members. It's not surprising to see it becoming ingrained in Plan Z as well.

The OP asked what Plan Z is. The OP did not ask, "Are the people behind Plan Z mentally unstable nutjobs?" But 90% of this thread has been about the latter.

Don't go hitting people and then cry victim when they hit back.

Becoming ?? BECOMING ??

For 8 years these people have insisted that every bad decision made concerning this game was for the best. They insisted that every group of people that left the game was for the best. Now, they find that NCsoft doesn't care to have them around and they are shocked and upset that they aren't receiving proper consideration ?

Can you point to the posts or threads or comments that support this? I'll give you some time. When you can't come back with a quote or a link to support that I'll have some ice packs ready for your burn.

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

Calling ANY MMO a success in the amount of time GW2 has been out is for consumer zealots and corporate execs trying to lure in investors.

How are your efforts to thwart the unicorn invasion going over there ?

Oh I suppose that was just lighthearted tom foolery not full on insanity.