Shutting Down the Forums Prior to November 30th
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American_Knight,
Posted on: 2012-09-17 24:41 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Not in the least... actually.
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Originally Posted by American_Knight
So it would not hamper any organized efforts if these boards were taken offline? Unbelievable
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Doesn't a negotiation require having an interested and engaged seller? What we have is a bunch of pleading, begging and toothless threats. I'm not sure that counts as a "negotiation."
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Originally Posted by Jester
My guess is whatever negotiations are going on to save the game involve keeping things pretty much frozen in place until the deal is either completed or abandoned.
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Don't forget a lot of internet whining, with you in the chorus. |
Originally Posted by CyberGlitch
Doesn't a negotiation require having an interested and engaged seller? What we have is a bunch of pleading, begging and toothless threats. I'm not sure that counts as a "negotiation."
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Hate to say it but now that NCsoft has posted an update on the front page, I think the days are numbered for these forums (as soon as September 30th).
I think the barrage of emails sent to NCsoft executives recently shocked the **** out of them - and now they're wise to folks using these forums to get organized. Kill the forums but leave the front page up and they'll eliminate the centralized voice being used by we, the protesters.
If you haven't found a *new* CoH forum community by now, I suggest you find one soon.
I don't use these forums for the #savecoh campaign...I use titan. It's less cluttered, actively moderated, etc....
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
I love you, I Burnt the Toast!
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I really need to know the exact date of the forum shut down so I know when I post what I think Lighthouse can suck on and post my playernotes file.
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Classy.
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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster
I really need to know the exact date of the forum shut down so I know when I post what I think Lighthouse can suck on and post my playernotes file.
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Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
The forum shutdown date is likely to catch us off guard, without warning, and it will do no good for us to seek that information from NCSoft in advance (they will not answer).
So it's better to be proactive. I recommend we pressure the Titan Network to send out a Call to Action to abandon these forums completely, as an undivided community, on or before the moment they're shut down, and move all discussions to the Titan Network forums. You might THINK everyone assumes this coarse of action already, but do not underestimate the thousands of current and former players who are too busy with work, family and life in general to read everything that gets posted here (or just playing the game instead of reading the forums). These players will be left out in the cold if the forums are shut down without warning.
We can do this in a way that causes NO interruption for our community, but we need the Titan Network to give us the signal.
I REALLY think this is the best way to handle things, otherwise we risk splintering the forum community before the game even shuts down. That will not be optimal during a time when people will need a place to come lay their baggage and/or continue to organize themselves and keep in touch moving forward.
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NCSoft is well aware that they can make all of this go away if they sit down and negotiate nicely and let someone else buy/maintain CoH.
They assumed we would go away when they said "End of game", take their credit-on-another-game and go away quietly.
We did not.
They assumed we would go away when a week had passed.
We made more noise.
They assumed we would go away when two weeks had passed.
We are still making noise.
They assume we will go away if they give us real money back. Some people want to do that. But this is a game of Stare Down and they just blinked.
We need to start showing them that we are just more than a bunch of game-dweebs who don't know how to do anything but whine.
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Classy.
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Wow, that was a douchy response. I did answer your question, there is nothing keeping them from pulling the plug, reading comprehension for the win!
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Originally Posted by American_Knight
Hint: try reading the last sentence - it is a question. Usually the point of a question is an answer.
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The negotiations aren't between us and NC Soft. It's between other interested parties.|
Originally Posted by CyberGlitch
Doesn't a negotiation require having an interested and engaged seller? What we have is a bunch of pleading, begging and toothless threats. I'm not sure that counts as a "negotiation."
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The devs have said that there are discussions going on in the background between the management of Paragon and NC Soft (and "investors" - their words, not mine) that we're not privy to, at least one celebrity player has made a direct offer to NC Soft (free advertisment for at least five years if they don't shut the game down), and, to move from certainties to rumors, a major board/card game company owner (and CoH player) may have offered to buy the game outright and rehire as much of Paragon Studios as he could to continue running and developing it. This game has been around for nearly a decade and has attracted more than just kids and working stiffs as players. There are big-name players with the resources, influence, and backing to keep the game running, if NC Soft is willing to play ball.
As I've said before, we, the players, are not the Big Guns in this whole thing. We're the ammunition that the Big Guns can use against NC Soft, to help convince them to play ball.
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With a little digging ((Or paying attention)) you'd find that we know that the former Paragon Studio's is in talks with investors and NCsoft to attempt to work out something. So there may be SOME interest in selling. We just don't have a lot of details right now.
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Originally Posted by CyberGlitch
Doesn't a negotiation require having an interested and engaged seller? What we have is a bunch of pleading, begging and toothless threats. I'm not sure that counts as a "negotiation."
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"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
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Originally Posted by CyberGlitch
Doesn't a negotiation require having an interested and engaged seller? What we have is a bunch of pleading, begging and toothless threats. I'm not sure that counts as a "negotiation."
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Yeah, what a fool for not listening to a bunch of fanboys speculating wilding on forums.|
Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
Someone's been living under a rock these last two weeks.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
Not in the least... actually.
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http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index....ard,134.0.html
http://www.savecoh.com/
All the Facebook and Twitter info are there.
Save City of Heroes is one FB group; easy to find others.
I'm finding out about all the ingame events on FB/Titan and ingame channels, not here.
SAVE CoX info:
Titan Network efforts
Saving CoX events/FB info
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You are in a minority with this viewpoint. Others are desperately trying to get the COH to meet off these boards because of the fear of the community splitting up.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
Not in the least... actually.
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I'm not saying Zwill didn't say that, but could you post a link to it? I think I missed it and I'd like to take a look for myself. It most likely means I missed some other information as well.|
Originally Posted by Paladiamors
They are going to prior to the November 30th shutdown, Zwill already mentioned that. We just don't have an exact date.
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Thanks
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Having read all the recent postings of Zwill on the boards, I cannot find this statement anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Garth
I'm not saying Zwill didn't say that, but could you post a link to it? I think I missed it and I'd like to take a look for myself. It most likely means I missed some other information as well.
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...ighlight=Forum|
Originally Posted by Lord_Garth
I'm not saying Zwill didn't say that, but could you post a link to it? I think I missed it and I'd like to take a look for myself. It most likely means I missed some other information as well.
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Took me a bit, it was about ten pages back.
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
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Ahh, that one.. the one which states that the forums *will* go down at some point, but doesn't actually say as to *when* they will go down.|
Originally Posted by Paladiamors
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I can see why you were thinking that they would go down before 30th November, but there is nothing in that post to suggest that they *will* go down before November 30th...
I fully expect the forums to last until the final day of the game, when they finally switch everything off at the same time.
Couldnt find a place to put this post - just met up with a friend havent seen for a few months - she plays computer games but not much mmorgs so I was suprised when I mentioned CoH she has heard of the Campaign on face book etc keep spreading the news it is being noticed in the wider world
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Comically enough, I was standing in line at the supermarket and a mom and apparently her teenager were discussing THIS VERY GAME'S SHUTDOWN, lol. When they mentioned Atlas Park 33, I jumped in, and we discussed all the things that are being done to raise awareness so we can possibly get another publisher. Then it was like we'd known each other for years. |
Originally Posted by Chill_Arrow_EU
Couldnt find a place to put this post - just met up with a friend havent seen for a few months - she plays computer games but not much mmorgs so I was suprised when I mentioned CoH she has heard of the Campaign on face book etc keep spreading the news it is being noticed in the wider world
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When the company is trying to shut the game down, sending the message that they are afraid of players talking to each other is not going to make players back down. And unless they shut down the game early too, they won't even have removed the primary method by which players communicate.
Also, I haven't yet seen anything on these forums that poses the slightest credible risk to NCSoft's interests, and certainly nothing that would go away if these boards weren't here. Having the boards up just keeps whatever players are plotting nice and centralized and easy to figure out.