Genesis?


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Been wondering since its prolly next. Any leaks or speculation on what it could be?

Genesis to me means creation or life or something along those lines. So my best guess would be maybe a +HP max total or inherent +regen maybe stamina etc. Something to do with the green and blue bars, for self and or pets. Non-toggle.


 

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I'm hoping for something along the lines of a permanent pet.


 

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Ehh. dont take my word for it, but I saw somethin on the net a while back that said its just gonna buff Hybrid and Interface. Could be more. Thats all I read about.


 

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At least one of the new slots has been conceived of as a buff for previous slots. Or new effects to that ability.

That was a long time ago though, back when Hybrid and Genesis were both scheduled for release at the same time. At that point, they didn't know which slot it would be. That leads me, purely through speculation, to believe that Genesis will be a new ability.

However, I don't believe it will have to do with the green and blue bars. That seems to link better thematically with Vitae.

Again though, this is all working off memory and speculation. I have no idea where I read that information back then. Possibly the beta boards.


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Something that isn't yet another superfluous panic button would be nice. I'm not keeping my hopes up though.


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When they figure out what it does, they'll let us know.


 

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I imagined once that Hybrid and Genesis might be made mutually exclusive toggles, to solve the dilemma of the dev vision of a sometimes-up toggle not matching the game reality of Too Awesome to Use.

At this point, I doubt that's going to happen, but I've seen equally interesting ideas.


 

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I have been hoping for something similar to how judgement is only its a MASSIVE AOE debuff. Could be various combinations from like -Regen and -HP to -Res, etc.


 

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Don't know about Genesis, but I'm hoping the Mind slot will be some sort of AoE control power. It's what I'm missing to round out characters that lack a control or debuff set.

Figuring/wishing it goes like this:

Types of powerset and Incarnate slots:

Blast sets -> Judgement
Buff/debuff sets -> Destiny/Interface
Henchman sets -> Lore

Control sets -> Mind? Your flavour of AoE hard control (hold, stun, confuse, fear)
Armour sets -> Vita? A power that helps self-survival significantly without being a team buff.
Melee sets -> Omega? I'm thinking a big single target attack, stronger than Judgement


 

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU View Post
Something that isn't yet another superfluous panic button would be nice. I'm not keeping my hopes up though.
^^^^^^

What he/she/it said!

I always thought of Genesis as the beginnings. Where hybrid is supposed to allow you to branch out into other ATs attributes, Genesis would help you be better at what you always have been.

How you enforce that with the structure of the Incarnate abilities is beyond me and I suspect that's not anywhere near what we'll get anyway.


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Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
I always thought of Genesis as the beginnings. Where hybrid is supposed to allow you to branch out into other ATs attributes, Genesis would help you be better at what you always have been.
I agree. Genesis to me suggests something the enhances the core ability of who you are. The Alpha slot already does this to a large degree (enhancing existing powers) and honestly would make a good fit for Genesis if it didn't already exist.

I'm hoping that Genesis does end up somewhat along the lines of Alpha, a passive boost to existing powers rather than a brand new power but I'm not sure how practical that would be without just duplicating Alpha. A passive boost to various Strength attributes (like a limited Power Boost) would be one way to do it but due to the limitations of the system that ends up favoring some powersets and ATs over others (for example for Armor sets Defense sets would be ok but Resistance and Regeneration sets wouldn't get much if anything).


 

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I suppose the devs should get going with Project Genesis right away.


 

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Originally Posted by Agent White View Post
When they figure out what it does, they'll let us know.
They probably already have it figured out.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
They probably already have it figured out.
One would hope so.

And they may have it figured out what they -want- it to do and are still trying to make it so it actually does that.


 

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Originally Posted by Agent White View Post
One would hope so.

And they may have it figured out what they -want- it to do and are still trying to make it so it actually does that.
Yep, that's how programming works.


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I kinda wish that each AT had its specific Incarnate powers. I know its easier for the devs to just make 4-5 powers that everyone can use, instead of 4-5 powers for each AT (a lot of work, I know). Just kinda silly that we are all incarnates, from different back grounds, powers and choices, but we can only choose the same powers as everyone else. Like, if all NPC incarnates could only ground pound and dull pain themselves >.> would be kinda silly...



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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
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Genesis will allow you to play old Sega games in COH.
Sonic and Knuckles. Yes.


 

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Originally Posted by RevolverMike View Post
Sonic 3 and Knuckles. Yes.
Fix't.


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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
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Genesis will allow you to play old Sega games in COH.
Nah, it'll be an insta-rez.


"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
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It is going to be a new walk power that shuts off any dance emotes you have active.

Or a massive zone-wide confuse power.


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....respawn a map with an entire enemy group? (Each tree determines the enemy group)


Or allies. It could be kind of cool to have an "instant army of not-quite pets appear and help me in this battle" button.


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Actually the Devs revealed what Genesis will sound and look like in the last Coffee Talk.


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
Revealed:

Genesis will allow you to play old Sega games in COH.


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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
It is going to be a new walk power that shuts off any dance emotes you have active.
It took me a second, but I saw what you did there.


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