Do you think Battallion should be minimum level 54?

The Shivans could come is useful here - they've already been established as the Battalion shock troops, as well as being able to alter and adapt themselves to their surroundings, so there's plenty of scope with them to expand the group to 50 with new enemy types to allow non-Incarnates to get invovled with the Coming Storm, even if they do decide to make the Battalion an Incarnate-only enemy group.

Start at 54+1 and range to 54+6. They should all, and I mean all, have level shifts.

My first thought was that, conceptually, it would indeed make sense for Battalion to be of the levels the OP states; they have, after all, been built up as a devastating force. So I'd be fine with it, in this specific instance. In general, though, I think it would be a mistake for the devs to continue ramping up Incarnate content without broadening the base a bit and providing more entry-level options for new 50s. I love that they brought out a new incarnate arc last issue, but hope to see another incarnate zone some more BAF/Lambda level trials.

That was my first thought, but then I read this post from Captain Electric, and a few that followed it, and now I would really, really love to see it handled this way.

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Originally Posted by Captain-Electric From what we've seen of the Shivan threat, and certainly from what the Arcosians saw of it, I feel reasonably suspicious that the Battalion will target, well, everything. If that turns out to be the case, then I think it would be cool if there were a variety of enemies to fight, of a variety of difficulty levels. We don't know what to expect when an alien species invades, after all. Perhaps, like the Tyranids of the Warhammer 40,000 universe, there will be enemies that only Incarnates could hope to face, accompanied by countless waves upon waves of smaller enemies that would be just as capable on their own of overwhelming the world if it weren't for all the other heroes up and down the security level spectrum. I guess what I'm talking about is the difference between a war between superior forces and an actual world wide war. The Praetorian war has mostly been an example of the former, although story arcs like Roy Cooling's and the revamped introductory Portal Corps arc illustrate how even in that case, the other heroes out there still come into play for important tasks.

I don't know if it's possible to do, but it's definitely how I would like to see it handled, if it can be done. Incarnate Battalion content, but also lower level content, zone events, maybe some GMs; a variety of content that includes characters of all levels.

i would still prefer the GM code so they always cone purple and are crazy difficult bc of their large numbers, but available on all maps for an extended period of time to all levels.

a global scale invasion threatening the very reality itself shouldnt be limited to incarnates. i can be won by incarnates, but not limited to. i also think that it should be crazy globally inclusive, like a Skrull Invasion or visit from Apokolips.

There are more ways to increase the difficulty than level shifts. From what I have seen, most enemies in the game don't have innate resistances and defenses, and most of them have the same to-hit as any other of their kind. Also debuffing and buffing powers aren't used as often since they accumulated and can be kind of strong at that point. Many AE arcs have taught me that lesson.

I suppose the biggest issue with level shifts is that the solution to shifted enemies is to shift the players, and ideally it shouldn't just be about that. I'd more readily embrace elemental, tactical, and certain mezz weaknesses that can be exploited, much like how Hamidon is handled. The "solo" route is a bit problematic for this method, though, since it turns into AT and powerset discrimination more than anything else. So the closest we can get to that is weird gimmicks that the battalion can have.

But since that can of worms is already opened, I do expect the battalion to be a minimum of +2 or so. That way the enemies range from 52 to 56 for solo content, and in any trial content it would be... maybe a bit higher.

The battallion were held off by the Rikti in the past, and the Rikti aren't incarnate. If they were all lvl 54+ super-incarnates, wouldn't the Rikti have lost the war?

The "Well" is a lie, one which Prometheus keeps telling us.


With regards to the Battallion; no, they should not be default 51-54. They should be 50. We don't need to make more divisions in the content like with the trials.

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