Do you think Battallion should be minimum level 54?


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Have we finally achieved the "WoW-ification" of CoX?

Since when is "maxxed-out" considered "basic"?
They are maxxed out level shifts NOW. I'm assuming that the later slots will contain MORE level shifts. At that point the Alpha/Destiny/Lore level shifts would be considered the "basic" ones that you earn early in your career and the later ones would be the more advanced ones that you earn later.


 

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"Look, forces of The Battalion"
"LOL judgment AoE roflstomp"
"Well, that clears up that... I guess..."
Just add in an aura that shuts off incarnate powers and then they can enjoy a challenge just like everyone else.

They devour wells so taking a refreshing drink or two off nearby players shouldn't be all that unbelievable. It'd also be a good explanation why they've rolfstomped everything so far, everyone else thought their incarnates' judgement and destiny spam would lead to a facerolling victory.


 

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"Look, forces of The Battalion"
"LOL judgment AoE roflstomp"
"Well, that clears up that... I guess..."
I'm sensing DBZ logic here... Goku, Vegeta and Picollo didn't take Boo seriously at first, either. We should always thread lightly around a foe whose main strenght is absorving someone else's power.


 

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Originally Posted by NaoGal View Post
Lastly, on the thoughts of the Rikti and their 'Well'... I'm not so sure they really 'killed it off'. The Well of Furies strikes me as something that would exist whether it's people acknowledge its presence or not.
The current lore seems to be that the Well connects all humankind in all dimensions. This includes the Rikti. They are attached to our Well whether they like it or are aware of it.

It's possible that the Rikti DID make themselves or their connection to the Well unpalatable. Their "allergy" to magic and loss of inherent magical ability (including the loss of their Gods) could be ascribed to an alteration in their racial connection to the Well. The method is mostly irrelevant - Maybe the magicians themselves acted when they realized the nature of Battalion.

The effect is that they erased the Magic Origin, amputating it if you will, and cauterizing the "wound" to prevent any future congress with magical energies and effects.

That damaged their connection to the Well just enough that it made them or It indigestible and turned Magic into something mythical and incomprehensible.

That's one way to tie the whole thing together and make the Rikti a possible ally against Battalion when it finally arrives.


 

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I'm not sure that really works, given the way we've come to understand the way the Well is supposed to work.

First and foremost, Magic =/= The Well.

Drawing from the well and achieving Incarnate powers the slow way is merely 'rising above' your origin. No magic involved, unless you're a Magic origin hero. But it's completely feasible to pierce the veil using tech or science or even natural ability.

so the Rikti have no magic-based Incarnates. But very likely have some that were Science/Tech. The initial incarnate arc even tells us we've met folks that don't even know they're incarnates.


 

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU View Post
Yup.

Ties in with my theory that the "angels" that appear occasionally in Night Ward are Battalion.
You mean the ones who dress like Prometheus' friends?


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The battallion were held off by the Rikti in the past, and the Rikti aren't incarnate. If they were all lvl 54+ super-incarnates, wouldn't the Rikti have lost the war?
Or the Battalion mightn't have devoured enough Wells at that stage to become the Incarnate race that we're now facing, or they could have only sent a small-ish invasion for to the Rikti dimension if they were splitting up to try and locate the Primal dimension.


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Originally Posted by Ultimus View Post
One of the issues I've seen in Dark Astoria is that the enemies can be level 50. When you have full Incarnate shifts this makes them grey in missions unless you turn up the difficulty slider. With the Battalion coming soon, do you think they should be a minimum level of 54 (50+4)?

This would allow Incarnates to slide them up to level 58 (And I assume more Incarnate shifts are coming) and I think it would really help with the lore of these guys are pretty deadly (They are the Coming Storm, the people that have destroyed nearly a universe of different races and absorbed their power). It would also force new people to have incarnate powers before battling them.

I remember when they were first announced that it had required IO's to fight the Battalion. This was back in like Issue 6 or 7 when the Invention system was in its infancy and Battalion had a few screenshots.
That assumption has been contradicted by pretty much everyone in a position to determine whether level shifts are added to the incarnate system.

Edit: unless by "more" you mean "one."


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That assumption has been contradicted by pretty much everyone in a position to determine whether level shifts are added to the incarnate system.

Edit: unless by "more" you mean "one."
So you are saying we won't go past 53?


 

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You mean the ones who dress like Prometheus' friends?
Yup, those would be the ones...


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Or the Battalion mightn't have devoured enough Wells at that stage to become the Incarnate race that we're now facing, or they could have only sent a small-ish invasion for to the Rikti dimension if they were splitting up to try and locate the Primal dimension.
I don't think so. Nor do I think the Rikti are all that powerful. I think Primal Earth is only vulnerable to the Battalion now BECAUSE IT HAS INCARNATES. The Rikti won because they where prepared to sacrifice potential incarnate power by destroying their Well. Without it, the Battalion had no power over them.


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So you are saying we won't go past 53?
I seriously doubt we will see more than one more level shift before Omega.


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I seriously doubt we will see more than one more level shift before Omega.
My theory is that we will see more level shifts but not "Incarnate Level Shifts". I think we'll see some new type of shift "Advanced Incarnate Shifts" or some such that only function in the Battalion Incarnate Content.


 

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So you are saying we won't go past 53?
I'm 53 now. An Ultimate inspiration will take me to 54. Omega will probably take me to 54, or 55 with an Ultimate. I doubt we'll get more shifts that work the way the incarnate shifts work. Its possible we'll *see* more shifts, but more likely in things like the Lights of the Well in the Magisterium trial than shifts we can take with us permanently (even permanently in the sense of incarnate shifts that only work in trials and DA).


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