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Nalrok's Really Fast Coffee Talk Writeup

Adeon Hawkwood

By Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2012-07-11 11:33 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon View Post
*snip*
*ears perk up*

And thanks Nal for posting this - I couldn't watch it today coz I'm in the office.

EDIT: Ha, the name for Issue 24 should be "Patchwork".

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"No comment" really is code for "we're trying, but we're not going to say anything until a) it's done, and b) it's working right.

@bpphantom
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.....This issue has me more excited than all the taskforces, trials, and storyarcs they've done for years ever has. O_o

...and it makes me realize that all the comments about melee damage superiority may have come from the fact that the biggest hitting single target and AoE attacks in many older ranged sets were held back from consistent combat use. It should be interesting how legacy blast set damage in practice goes up with this.

 

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.....This issue has me more excited than all the taskforces, trials, and storyarcs they've done for years ever has. O_o

...and it makes me realize that all the comments about melee damage superiority may have come from the fact that the biggest hitting single target and AoE attacks in many older ranged sets were held back from consistent combat use. It should be interesting how legacy blast set damage in practice goes up with this.
Hopefully this will shut the folks up who keep saying 'Melee Power Creep' over and over and over and over and over until I want to barf every time I see it.

My guides:Dark Melee/Dark Armor/Soul Mastery, Illusion Control/Kinetics/Primal Forces Mastery, Electric Armor
"Dark Armor is a complete waste as a tanking set."

 

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OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED I NEED TO PUT MY OVERWHELMING FORCE PROC INTO WHIRLWIND!


^_^

plus force feed back and the dmg proc from whatever-whatever = fuuuuuunnnnnnN!!!!!!!!!! for my tornado toon

 

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Also they mentioned more pool overviews next week. I want to see what Leadership is getting (since it's my favorite power pool).

 

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Also they mentioned more pool overviews next week. I want to see what Leadership is getting (since it's my favorite power pool).
*does double take*

Okay, clearly not paying attention to every word they speak during those things is baaaaaad.

Great to read this.

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OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED I NEED TO PUT MY OVERWHELMING FORCE PROC INTO WHIRLWIND!


^_^

[Whirlwind] doesn't take damage enhancements, so it can't take Overwhelming Force.

@Roderick

 

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As far as I know, the only thing left to work out is the UI.

 

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Just when I thought I could let my sub run out, they pull you back in...

Now, just add some new, non-Praetorian content (preferably villain only) and i24 could be the best in a long time...

@Dante EU - Union Roleplayer and Altisis Victim
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Wow with all these blaster and power pool changes my main Blaster is absolutely due for a respec when i24 goes live.

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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon View Post
As far as I know, the only thing left to work out is the UI.
Well, and having the artist go through and prep things for tinting and/or alternate animations, etc. Which can be done, just does take some effort and hours.

(And if they have pool/APP/Patron customization in issue 24, they will have officially bought my unwavering loyalty for year to come. Years I will be spending in the costume creator. )

 

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Hopefully this will shut the folks up who keep saying 'Melee Power Creep' over and over and over and over and over until I want to barf every time I see it.
With melee damage being good already and ranged damage getting a lot better, where does that leave support and control sets? Particularly when the nukes recharge faster and have more impact than a lot of hard controls. It already happens with Judgement powers but at least they're level 50 only and the only content at that point is stuff where control is useless anyway.

 

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Challenge: Removed, turned into Pacify, self-placate. No hide no crit, pure self aggro dump. "Oh Sh*t Button" (Zwill: Maybe Scrappers will want. *SNERK*)

*Tosses flag in air*

Cottage rule violation!!

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Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
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Wow. So many respecs... I've always dodged the crashing nukes on my defenders. Now to figure out how to make room for Blackstar, not to mention any other pool powers that are going to become worth it.

Too bad for the poor Kheldians. It wouldn't be a proper QoL update if they weren't left out in the cold in some way, though. (See: Customization, Powerset)

 

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*Tosses flag in air*

Cottage rule violation!!
Yes, but previously, the first two powers of Presence were a single target Taunt, and an AoE Taunt. Is there ever going to be a time when the Single Target Taunt is tactically superior? And does anyone ever actually TAKE that ST Taunt?

@Roderick

 

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With melee damage being good already and ranged damage getting a lot better, where does that leave support and control sets? Particularly when the nukes recharge faster and have more impact than a lot of hard controls. It already happens with Judgement powers but at least they're level 50 only and the only content at that point is stuff where control is useless anyway.
Honestly I find Control sets to be pretty monstrous in their own element.

My guides:Dark Melee/Dark Armor/Soul Mastery, Illusion Control/Kinetics/Primal Forces Mastery, Electric Armor
"Dark Armor is a complete waste as a tanking set."

 

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Originally Posted by AquaJAWS View Post
YAY...basically a big cleanup the QOL and little annoying things in game before jumping into the new big story arc after Praetoria
I have been advocating an issue of just bug fixes, reworking powers that are not working and just tweaks since the Rikti War issue, yeah it would be an uninteresting patch overall but do all the powerset proliferation at once hash out all the bugs that would cause along with most of the other bugs fix up the powersets and hold off on content.

 

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
Not quite. Pacify has no hide/critical/defense component. All it is is an aggro dump.
It is an aggro dump that is replacing an aggro magnet. That seems like a fairly significant change in function of the power.

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it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.
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It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

 

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But it's not a cottage rule violation.
Enlighten me how that is the case, then.
Taunt != Placate.
They are fundamentally different.

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it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.
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Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

 

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
Honestly I find Control sets to be pretty monstrous in their own element.
So do I, otherwise I wouldn't play solely Dominators and Controllers, but with slightly less damage even more often it'll see a lot more wasted power uses. There are powers like Heat Loss, with 360 second recharge, that can be easily wasted now if there are enough nukes available on a team to cover the downtime.

I'll still be soloing the majority of the time, but with these changes I feel there's even less incentive for me to team up with others.

 

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Originally Posted by Siolfir View Post
Enlighten me how that is the case, then.
Taunt != Placate.
They are fundamentally different.
I believe the cottage rule has some interpretational leeway.

Dont look at it as a taunt vs placate

Look at it as an aggro management tool vs aggro management tool. Both manage aggro but each manage aggro in the opposite way from the other.

In generally both are single targeted powers that manage threat in some way.

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