Revamping the "Old to New"

Well for SR, I said a little more recharge reduction or a little bit regen but quiet frankly I would be satisfied with practice brawler being a toggle instead of a click. I can alreadydouble stack it and it is already on auto power and I think anyone gets SO's can get it on perma if not sooner so from that side making a toggle is not agame breaking thing however if it becomes a toggle I can finally free my auto-power for hasten or something else. I know it is probably very selfish but other than SR I don't know any secondary that gets mez protection that is not a toggle(or passive in some cases)

Ninjitsu.

So, in other words, all the defense-positional armours.


And yes, that clicky sorta annoys me, too. But I do love being able to double stack when/if the situation warrants it.

#1 Stone Armor.
Remove the freegin movement penalty from rooted please. What a relic! The rest of the set, including granite, isnt really that bad. But rooted is pretty much mandatory, so pretty much mandatory to play the set like you are stuck on super hero flypaper. it wasnt fun 8 years ago, and it still isnt fun.

#2 Electric Blast
Tesla cage should be given damage to make it play like Abyssal gaze. There is no reason not to. VS should gain a few more attack type powers, like the current no damage tesla cage with a low mag hold, lightning field, maybe even a longish recharge short circuit. Something so it does worthwhile damage and offers some help to the player, or even offers neat tricks if the player is paying attention, like stacking the tesla cages. This set has unique FX and sound, but it is so pathetic on damage and survivability(yes I am ignoring the drain metagame. i do not always make elec blast characters with one of the like 3 powers that make that metagame work) that it is constantly brought up in discussions about "fix it" or "revamp". I am not even the first to bring it up in this short thread.

#3 Energy Melee
Time to take this set out of issue 3 time out. it has learned it's lesson. Change TF into a thunderstrike clone. Change stun into a ranged power, 40 foot range, and allow it to do some tier 1 blast set damage. Make the damage from ET happen at the begining of the animation. My suggestion would be use the old animation with damage occuring to target when it used to, but then add a little something to the end of that one for the self damage so the overall cast stays the same if that is the concern. Or, just get rid of the self damage, the power isnt that great that it needs a penalty. Give us an alternate aniomation for whirling hands that doesnt look like it was stolen from Glee. I vote the animation from footstomp, with tintable "power wave" FX on the ground.




Once those 3 things happen, we can talk about some of the less "annoying enough I wont play them" stuff. Like Ice control.

Without going into extreme details:
Energy Blast
Sonic Blast
Every Non-Energy Blaster Secondary that has been around since launch.
Energy Melee
Regeneration
Stone Armor

Would also like minor tweaks to:
Ice Melee
Stone Melee
Super Strength

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane Super Strength certainly needs a 'from the ground up' remake.

Be careful what you wish for.

I wouldn't mind if most of the blaster secondaries were changed. /Energy is the only one I use, other than an elec/elec blaster that doesn't really work. I also had fire/fire, but scrapped it for a fire/kin corruptor after I realized Fire Ball was better damage per activation than the AoEs in /fire. To me, that's a bit of a failure of /fire, that I felt going outside the AT and picking a non-fire set was a better way to continually set things on fire than using the actual secondary dedicated to it.

Powersets I enjoy as they are and would not want to see changed:
Battle Axe
Energy Blast
Sonic Attack

Also, I wish they could revamp Radiation Blast to do direct Energy damage with Toxic DoT as a secondary effect.

Just to add my support to some things read here by others...

Regen .. At one point a Regen Scrapper was all but unstoppable and then they nerfed the set. Either needs faster healing times and heals for more or a switch to add some defense or resistance to damage.

Martial Arts ... One of my old favorites was an MA/Regen Scrapper.... the animatios could seriously use some update considering the new stardards set by things like Street Justice, Staff weapons and even Dual Pistols. Could also use an increase in damage

Merc in the MM sets ... As mentioned these seem to do the least damage and die the fastest of any of the pet sets.. I can't really speak about ninjas I never got a set of them past 20. Frankly most if not all of the MM sets could stand some tweeking. It always seems to me I have 5 minons and one "idiot" that can't wait to rush forward and die. With Thugs it's the arsonist who throws a fire bomb and then just has to rush up to see what it did or the Merc's Medic that does basically the same sort of thing .. worst part with mercs is that's the guy that ca heal the others and you!

A never really felt that Super Strength was all that bad but I would love to see Hand Clap replaced with something that I'd actually USE. I still can NOT understand what Dev thought an "attack" that sends your opponent flying across the room was in any way a good idea for a Melee character. I have a SD/SS tank and the one attack I skipped, well I respec'd out of after taking it, is Hand clap.

I think Mind Control could use a buff. It's not a bad set, but ask someone to list the best 5 control sets, and Mind will NEVER make the list.

The most radical change I could conceive of is to swap out the confuse powers for a "tun foe(s) into pet(s)" like deal and have the player control them as such and gain full XP, thus giving it a significant edge over the various other confuse powers in other sets.

Maybe let TK do damage, too. An initial bit of smashing damage when the foe(s) hit a wall, maybe. Just for pizazz, I wish the repel worked faster, too. Like an actual force-shove. My ultimate wish would be a "gravity gun" like effect. Pick things up, whip them around, knock enemies around using other enemies. Or kill the power all together and give us an AoE version of Levitate. It'd make sense, given that the set has AoE versions of all its other ST powers with Terrify being an outlier. The extra AoE damage would also make up for Mind's sad lack of reliable, steady AoE Containment.

*looks up* I don't think i'd wanna see BOTH those changes, that would be way too OP XD But either-or would be a great improvement to the set, IMO!

This has been said but I'd like new animations for Broadsword, War Mace and Battle Axe. Let's make them look like they're own powersets. Every time I see Staff or Titan Weapons I get sad. They're beautifully animated sets, I really like the 'swoosh' effects (also present in Street Justice).

Speaking of Street Justice, let's revamp Martial Arts! Make it a little more special and definitely add some prettier animations.

And while we're on the topic of animations, let's get some more interesting options for the blast animations. Water Blast is gorgeous, but Fire, Ice and others still share identical animations in some departments. This is definitely more minor, though... it's probably just my inner Avatar: Last Airbender fan speaking :P ...I suppose the same could be said for control powers.

Ultimately, I'd like to see more dynamic animations for just about every older set. What the devs are coming out with now is awesome, and it can definitely be used.

Very stream-of-consciousness here, and I don't care a whit about the Cottage Rule, so a fair bit of this won't be easily applicable.

Blasters as a whole need help; their AT needs to be rethought for the world that City of Heroes is, not what it was originally designed to be. In addition, their older powersets are mechanically stale, and Fire Blast is an outlier that needs to be drawn back into the fold (or have all Blasters expand to near that level of damage). Ranged supernuke powers that still cause an Endurance crash need a rethinking as well... modern sets don't come with a similar crash, for example.

Brutes could probably use a mild survivability nerf. Controllers could probably use a mild survivability upgrade early on.

Peacebringers need to have their tools examined and a few of them replaced wholesale. They also need better survival tool progression, rather than having levels 38-39 define their ability to live. They're a much more capable AT than Blasters, but could use some work. Warshades need some of the same tweaks but they're a bit more resilient of a design.

Kinetics needs a hard nerf. Always has.

Storm Summoning needs that most difficult of buffs: it needs QoL changes that make it easier to understand and change, but don't actually increase the power of the set. It's a fantastic set that is poorly understood by the playerbase as a whole. Gale would be the only power I'd replace entirely.

Force Field needs some tinkering. Force Field's offensive side is built around the idea that knockback is a powerful CC tool, and it can be in the hands of an expert. Give it to a new player and watch burn tank hate begin to crest.

1 - Energy Melee, which would see a pass as it gets ported to scrappers
2 - Super Strength, which again would see a pass as it gets ported to scrappers (And stalkers)

I agree with Arcana about changing all the T1 and T2 powers as well, I hate having to pick the fast recharging but weaker attack just so I have something to do at low levels.

And then blasters, and blast sets need a total revamp.

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