Judgement power for a brutish non-magical Troll woman?
Cryonic: That's pretty much a no. It doesn't look all that impressive (Sorry, ice daggers as a godlike power? Blizzard's ten times better.) and it's very element-specific to cold and snow. Pass.
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Ion: Possible. It has that "Zeus Lightning" sort of look, almost like Xanta's calling down the thunder, as it were. It's a good choice for divinity and it could b explained as the various armour pieces gathering energy and releasing it. Pyronic: As always, Pyronic is AWESOME! It looks awesome, I love the practical effects, but... I'm just not sure how I can explain it. Like ice, fire is specific. I guess you could say the same about electricity, but "lightning" has a broader mythical connotation jut on its own. |
But enough about Dragoon, for Xanta, I smell a possible angle with your magic smith friend. What's his background? Does he have any enemies that would try to break her magic artifacts or steal them? What type of magic does the smith know? I ask because maybe his powers can be 'elaborated' as being either demonic or divine in nature...well, maybe not demonic, just *really* 'arcane' and the most arcane thing ever is fire...everyone knows that
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But yeah, maybe after an incident, he had to put a bit more power into Xanta's equipment or perhaps a battle with one of his detractors unlocked a latent power in the magic ensorcelled armor and therefore, when [insert trigger] (I'd say when around others with strong incarnate power) power builds up and she is later taught/learns how to release the build up as a mass of divine or arcane power.
If that were the case, I suddenly have more interest in Xanta and her equipment and her past acquaintances
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Void: Can't really figure out a good way to explain a black hole, honestly. If we can figure out some way to make it look physical, maybe? But just Void base seems hard to explain. It's not specific, it's just weird. |
Colored dark red similarly to his Energy Drain, and it fits his abilities without needing to expand further.
I think the point comes to the character though. For some characters, Judgement powers won't fit their concepts, you don't have to force it unless you have an idea what you want. My main Kat/SR was going to get Void as a kind of 'cut into reality' type attack but instead, I just started amassing more Alpha incarnates. He's suppose to be super adaptable so it fits him that he'd be able to adjust his body to better fit his situation.
But starting now, I'm starting to make new characters with the premise of incarnate abilities. I think of super strong powers they may have before making them and leave that open for incarnate powers in the future. This makes it easier to fit for later if you desire. Of course, you probably created Xanta before incarnates were released as a Broadsword character, right? Yeah, same with my Kat/SR. No Judgement fits him so I use other powers instead.
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What if you take Spring Attack and always use Void after SA, and conceptualize it as a bonus damage effect of Spring Attack, like extra radial damage around the impact point? Its not perfect because Void's animation is so long, but it could work. Just color tint it to something appropriate if you don't like the black hole-like effect.
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...that's all I got.
I'm still holding out on another round of judgments.
Also, as far as Vorpal goes - the teleport effect is because they can't figure a nice way to get a "charge" attack in.
That's the only reason why Shield Charge has the teleport.
Note there have been instances of characters (Sloth from FMA:Brotherhood comes to mind) where a big slow tank type is able to move FAST.
And usually comes to a stop by running into things, not capable of turning. In the comics/cartoons I recall watching, Juggernaut was able to get moving, but only in straight lines.
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-shrug- I just handwave it in all honestly XD My Natural Dual Pistols/Traps corruptor was a pretty 'normal' character, now he can do a super kick, summon romans, and shoot up a barrier that blocks most things. Not to mention before he was an incarnate when he inexplicably gained a shadowy aura that resists damage, the ability to revive via soul sucking, and enemies near him suddenly becoming stunned from the dark shroud around him.
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As I said before, Xanta has a suit of magical armour, and so I postulated that the Incarnate level of magic is something that's so physically taxing it would outright KILL most people if they tried to use it. This is partially why Ionic held such appeal to me - not everyone can call and then redirect lightning yet live to tell the tale. Basically, magic this powerful needs a very sturdy individual to survive using it, hence why it's magic, but it doesn't take away from Xanta's core strength, which is... Well, strength. Her ability is still based on how strong and tough she is, it's just now partially expressed through being able to survive hitting herself with the same magical attacks she's hitting her enemies and basically shrug it off.
I've always found Epic pools to be the big point where concepts can break down honestly, and no, I'd rather break concept than gimp my character.
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Hey! I like Cryonic. But this is my judgement of choice for my storm summoner sorceress. She's always been imbued with all elements of the natural storm, so wind, water, rain, sleet, ice, lightning, thunder, snow and fog/cloud. She gave up her power over lightning so cannot use direct shocking attacks but her power over thunder lets her call Lightning Storm clouds. She also gave up her power over wind sheer but can manifest typhoons using combinations of her other powers. The timeline of the character says she eventually gives up her power over rain and snow as well but she'll never give up her power over ice which is her strongest and deadliest of powers. I actually have 2 tier 3s of Cryonic and waiting for the components to get her the tier 4...I plan to have both tier 4s on her to swap as she sees fit.
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But enough about Dragoon, for Xanta, I smell a possible angle with your magic smith friend. What's his background? Does he have any enemies that would try to break her magic artifacts or steal them? What type of magic does the smith know? I ask because maybe his powers can be 'elaborated' as being either demonic or divine in nature...well, maybe not demonic, just *really* 'arcane' and the most arcane thing ever is fire...everyone knows that
![]() But yeah, maybe after an incident, he had to put a bit more power into Xanta's equipment or perhaps a battle with one of his detractors unlocked a latent power in the magic ensorcelled armor and therefore, when [insert trigger] (I'd say when around others with strong incarnate power) power builds up and she is later taught/learns how to release the build up as a mass of divine or arcane power. If that were the case, I suddenly have more interest in Xanta and her equipment and her past acquaintances ![]() |
Essentially, that's a roundabout way of saying you make a very good point. As I said above, I think I'm ready to advance Xanta's story a bit and make magic a greater part of her toolkit, and in a way that still relies on strength of body first and foremost. The Tsoo actually give me a good idea with their "forbidden techniques." OK, theirs are forbidden because they're evil and not very nice, but suppose Jonah, the Mystic Smith knew a few of his own. Supposedly, he learned from from an ancient tome that Xanta brought up from a Circle of Thorns library, meant to enchant the battle gear of the gods. They're forbidden because the enchanted armour becomes deadly to any mortal who tries to wear it just because it takes such a tremendous toll on the user's constitution. It's HORRIBLY heavy, it drains your essence and it channels its energy directly through your skin, so if you're just Average Joe and you put this on, it'll kill you.
Well, here's the deal - Xanta's been getting stronger. A LOT stronger. She's tangled with Recluse, she hit Rula-Wade with a sword until his head broke open and he exploded, she hacked her way back out into the real world through Mot's insides with nothing but a blade and her own two hands, she's trod in lava, been shot enough times to qualify as a regular armed force and she only seems to grow tougher and stronger and more determined. Maybe, just maybe, she's finally strong enough to use armour imbued with those forbidden techniques. Maybe she's strong enough to handle Zeus' Lightning and Tielekku's Barrier and Rularuu's apparitions, just as a form of comparison. You see, what "unlocks" this power isn't so much something that creates the technique, so much as her being tough enough to use it without killing herself, essentially.
Hmm... Let's see... Think of it as Muad'dib drinking from the Water of Life that would kill pretty much anyone who wasn't Kyle MacLachlan.
But starting now, I'm starting to make new characters with the premise of incarnate abilities. I think of super strong powers they may have before making them and leave that open for incarnate powers in the future. This makes it easier to fit for later if you desire. Of course, you probably created Xanta before incarnates were released as a Broadsword character, right? Yeah, same with my Kat/SR. No Judgement fits him so I use other powers instead.
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But, you know what? I've been writing character concepts as a serious past time for eight years now. I like to think I've gotten pretty good at it by this point. In a way, NOT planning for Incarnates (in case I die of old age before the character gets there) and then figuring it out on the fly when the time comes is the kind of challenge I enjoy, speaking from a writer's perspective. Sure, it meant a couple of days of pain and anger trying to figure out what to do with Xanta, but the solution you guys and Nuclear Toast and I came up with pleases me greatly. In the end, I learned a couple of things - the less I have to bend the game to fit my concept the more better, and when it comes to Incarnates, it's next to impossible to keep a character using ONLY physical powers. Sooner or later I'll start getting pets and shields, after all. It's not completely impossible, mind you, but it comes close.
So, when the time come to figure out how to progress a character to make them into an Incarnate without violating the character's core identifying characteristics, I'm confident I can figure it out on the spot.
What if you take Spring Attack and always use Void after SA, and conceptualize it as a bonus damage effect of Spring Attack, like extra radial damage around the impact point? Its not perfect because Void's animation is so long, but it could work. Just color tint it to something appropriate if you don't like the black hole-like effect.
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Or you could just squint your eyes and say she's swinging her sword around really fast.
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I'll probably do that for my other characters who get to that point, though, if they need to stick to a more physical look. Hell, I might even do that to Xanta at some point, but the conceptual gain to be had from "magic" is too great to resist, I think. I might even be convinced to swap her Epic into something more magicky... If I didn't absolutely NEED Energy Mastery to offset Titan Weapon's energy cost
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In the comics/cartoons I recall watching, Juggernaut was able to get moving, but only in straight lines.
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I tell ya, if I can have this skill in City of Heroes, I will drop what I'm doing, abandon my Judgement and start making that IMMEDIATELY, because it's probably the coolest thing I can think of for a big character to do
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I don't know, I'd just like to have that
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The Well of the Furies enhances one's basic origin, thus a technology Incarnate is entirely possible. For as much as I hate the Origin of Powers storyline, the Well of the Furies is based on it, and it does allow for Incarnates of all origins. The Well of the Furies is not magical, it is a power boost. Besides, quite a few gods of myth lack magic powers entirely or at least mostly, with many Greek gods being essentially really big, really strong humans.
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If you wanted to stay 'all Natural', then you don't get Incarnated. It's that simple. It's the path to Godhood. Anything you do as an Incarnate is implicitly because "the Well is pumping me with power". It is inherently not Natural. Neither is any origin to begin with of course, but Incarnation is going beyond your unassisted limitations by getting power from the Well. Remember all that story stuff about how at some point after Cimerora the last Origin seemed to have died out? How there used to be another Origin? Remember what that was? Oh right, yeah, it was Incarnate. Which is what you are now.
You're asking for a 'have my cake and eat it too' situation where you want all the gameplay benefits of being an Incarnate, but stubbornly refuse to allow your own story to fit into the setting in which it lives. Your base origin may affect how your characters Incarnate powers manifest, such as Natural characters perhaps having a preference for Vorpal as an expression of their natural speed, strength and skill, but they can still only do that because they poked the Well in the face and it lent them power. You don't get to rewrite CoX to service your story, you write your story to fit into CoX. Hell, you've kind of completely missed the point, since it's in-universe supposed to be a difficult decision due to Incarnation inherently being lent power by a completely inexplicable external force of mind boggling power that would seek to control you.
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And yet many people roleplay "Not Incarnate Incarnates", so that's a dead horse nobody wants to smell anymore. Just let people do what they want and roleplay Incarnatehood however they want, despite the in-game definition of it being rather set-in-stone.
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And yet many people roleplay "Not Incarnate Incarnates", so that's a dead horse nobody wants to smell anymore. Just let people do what they want and roleplay Incarnatehood however they want, despite the in-game definition of it being rather set-in-stone [band as variable as silly-putty and twice as silly at times, because some writer can't make their mind up about what the 'Well' IS.[/b]
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And yet many people roleplay "Not Incarnate Incarnates", so that's a dead horse nobody wants to smell anymore. Just let people do what they want and roleplay Incarnatehood however they want, despite the in-game definition of it being rather set-in-stone.
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If, on the other hand, it comes off as me arguing against the concept of having non-Incarnate characters wielding Incarnate powers, I'm actually completely the other way around. I highly dislike the "Well" angle and Ascension seems to account for having powers that look like they might be our own. I do have a problem with squinting and pretending powers are something different than they really are, but that's purely restricted to my own characters, in that I'll always try to find an alternative that doesn't have me redefine powers basic concepts. But as far as other people go? I take the "your dime, your time" concept. If you made the character, then I have no place to tell you how you should write for it.
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Your base origin doesn't change, but that also doesn't change the fact that being Incarnated means being fed power by a massive, basically magical entity.
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Feeding on the well is only figurative. You're not consuming anything. *THAT* part *IS* left vague for a reason, thankfully. Exactly what you're doing to obtain the well's attention is what's the important plot point here.
If you wanted to stay 'all Natural', then you don't get Incarnated. It's that simple. It's the path to Godhood. Anything you do as an Incarnate is implicitly because "the Well is pumping me with power". It is inherently not Natural. Neither is any origin to begin with of course, but Incarnation is going beyond your unassisted limitations by getting power from the Well. Remember all that story stuff about how at some point after Cimerora the last Origin seemed to have died out? How there used to be another Origin? Remember what that was? Oh right, yeah, it was Incarnate. Which is what you are now. |
Incarnate is a status. A title. One doesn't have to reject their character's origin for it and this is coming from someone who uses 'the well' lore and doesn't try to correct it for my personal preference.
But you can't just 'become' a God. You either always have been or you never will be one. The path to Godhood lined with godlike power leads just to that: being 'godlike'. But being 'like' a god isn't actually being one.
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Feeding on the well is only figurative. You're not consuming anything. *THAT* part *IS* left vague for a reason, thankfully. Exactly what you're doing to obtain the well's attention is what's the important plot point here.
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If ever the plan was for the Well of the Furies to be the sole source of our post-50 progression, this has been dropped in light of the OVERWHELMINGLY negative response that storyline has received from players. I've seen the occasional player who praises it, but most either don't give a crap about the story so long as they keep gaining levels or find it insulting that they're being hamstrung into serving an amoral, untrustworthy, controlling entity that has thus far brought no good to any of the people who've associated with it and whom everyone warns us not to trust. It's like if Architect Entertainment were the only post-50 progression and involved selling your genetic material to Crey and Aeon Corp. - people aren't buying it.
The Well of the Furies is a stepping stone, and an unreliable one as Tyrant stands to evidence of. It can give power, but it can also take power away, it will try to control you and people can still defeat you anyway. Mot has the right idea - consume enough raw energy to become a veritable Well himself, but without the need to have agents to use his power or worshippers to worship him. Essentially, this is ultimate, personal power, and that's where the storyline seems to be leading us, confounding Ramiel, Prometheus, Silos and possibly even the Letter Writer.
With all of that said, "you get your power from the well" is no longer a valid argument, when it's pretty clear we're fighting for a future where we're not.
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Per chance my harsh tone may not show it, I actually agree with you, Leo
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I found Void with knockback to have the most "super strength" like concept.
It actually worked well too. Let all the enemies pile on to you...and then, as if saying, "enough" or "get off me"...you swing your arms back knocking all the enemies away from you.
Unfortunately...the neither of the tier 4 Void judgements come with knockback.
My Thugs/Traps MM is all Tech. I went with Pyronic and just assumed he had a flame thrower/bomb thingy...
It's not even figurative, the Well has been sidelined in the main storyline, and for good reason. Run the Large Breasts Trial and speak with Papa Smurph - he'll tell you about people ascending to become wells themselves, drawing power equal to, or even greater than that of the Well of the Furies, but without ties to any entity but the person's own nature. These are referred to as Ascendants and constitute essentially self-made gods drawing on nothing more than their own power. So much above Incarnates are these, that even Prometheus - the guy who's actively encouraging us to pursue our Incarnate destiny - is pretty blunt about not allowing us to become Ascendants, going as far as to threaten death and violence against any who would so much as attempt this. He and his "agents" are part of a group of gods whose primary duty appears to be to prevent people from Ascending because that's too much power for any one individual to wield, essentially more than practically anyone else has.
If ever the plan was for the Well of the Furies to be the sole source of our post-50 progression, this has been dropped in light of the OVERWHELMINGLY negative response that storyline has received from players. I've seen the occasional player who praises it, but most either don't give a crap about the story so long as they keep gaining levels or find it insulting that they're being hamstrung into serving an amoral, untrustworthy, controlling entity that has thus far brought no good to any of the people who've associated with it and whom everyone warns us not to trust. It's like if Architect Entertainment were the only post-50 progression and involved selling your genetic material to Crey and Aeon Corp. - people aren't buying it. The Well of the Furies is a stepping stone, and an unreliable one as Tyrant stands to evidence of. It can give power, but it can also take power away, it will try to control you and people can still defeat you anyway. Mot has the right idea - consume enough raw energy to become a veritable Well himself, but without the need to have agents to use his power or worshippers to worship him. Essentially, this is ultimate, personal power, and that's where the storyline seems to be leading us, confounding Ramiel, Prometheus, Silos and possibly even the Letter Writer. With all of that said, "you get your power from the well" is no longer a valid argument, when it's pretty clear we're fighting for a future where we're not. *edit* Per chance my harsh tone may not show it, I actually agree with you, Leo ![]() |
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Samuel, sorry I didn't get past page 1 because of time constraints, so my reply may be already covered.
Once you unlock Judgement, you can recolor the judgement power, and view it in CC. I have a Bot/traps MM, and my toon is a cyborg, and I used Void, and recolored it, blue, like he was releasing fusion or plasma energy. So it doesn't look like a black hole.
Just wanted to add that until I get to read the rest of this thread when I have a chance.
Either way, good luck on your choice, if you haven't already added it to the thread.
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First of all, there's a bit of context I want to give. I kept quiet about this while it was being made, but I finally have a proper and quite awesome pic of Xanta that ought to give you a much better idea of what kind of character she's supposed to be. Courtesy of Alex, I give you this:
I cannot get enough of that pic! It's a pretty much spot on representation of pretty much my favourite character, and it's awesome besides Now look at this rendition of Xanta and tell me - does she REALLY look like she'd be throwing around spin kicks and undergoing massive bursts of speed?
I found Void with knockback to have the most "super strength" like concept.
It actually worked well too. Let all the enemies pile on to you...and then, as if saying, "enough" or "get off me"...you swing your arms back knocking all the enemies away from you. Unfortunately...the neither of the tier 4 Void judgements come with knockback. |
Actually, what you make is a very strong sell
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I've been saying to my CoH friends for a while now that one obvious option that could be added to Judgement down the line is Marauder's Nova Fist.
I figured the main reasons it is not an option was to keep it unique to an NPC and that it was simply a more powerful version of the existing SS' Footstomp. But even though I do have some SS toons, I'd still give them Nova Fist if it was a judgement option in a heart beat!......
.....or at least until I got all the components anyway. :-p
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I've been saying to my CoH friends for a while now that one obvious option that could be added to Judgement down the line is Marauder's Nova Fist.
I figured the main reasons it is not an option was to keep it unique to an NPC and that it was simply a more powerful version of the existing SS' Footstomp. But even though I do have some SS toons, I'd still give them Nova Fist if it was a judgement option in a heart beat!...... .....or at least until I got all the components anyway. :-p |
I thinking have that as a judgement would be great.
You could select between the ground punch animation that Marauder currently uses or the footstomp animation. That way...people can have their Judgement power be different than their "Footstomp" power from SS if they wanted.
I had the same issue with my natural Arrows/Devices blaster/Munitions
I couldn't come up with a natural type judgement power (I think all powers, including Epics and Incarnate and power pools need many more options, btw.)
I finally gave in and went with the Fire judgement. Why? Well, my arrows do involve explosive arrows (looks like fire explosion) and Flaming Arrows.....so. I decided that the incarnate trials allowed my character to get his hands on advanced devices.
Now, when my character uses the Fire Judgement powers.....he has a device in the palm of his hand that shoots out a powerful blast of flame into an area and decimates whatever is in it's range. Yes, the fire blast is a "hand blast".....so, I can only imagine there is a small device on (or in) his hand that produces the blasts.
He also mostly uses barrier. Again an advanced device. He also summons Cimerorans....as they were the closest to "natural warriors or fighters" that I could get. Plus, i'm big on getting my DPS up....and they were the "highest DPS."
Ya know, a simple animation option could solve these issues too. Like, if my character pulled a flame thrower (or something just way cooler than that) as a device to show that it isn't being generated by my character himself.
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Maybe take Void, and color it to look like a sort of dust cloud, maybe pretend that the damage comes from a giant hit to the ground by the sword, or maybe a footstomp.
The graphics wouldn't get in the way here, but the animation would, if you can live with that.
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Maybe take Void, and color it to look like a sort of dust cloud, maybe pretend that the damage comes from a giant hit to the ground by the sword, or maybe a footstomp.
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That is, until I sat down and looked at my options, and until I looked at the power stats. Void with knockback sounds like it's not a bad choice, but that's until I remember I don't really like PBAoE knockback. In terms of stats, Void and Ion have almost the same numbers, considering how I plan to go about them - damage and more damage. It's what Xanta does.
In terms of visuals... This is tough to call, but I just can't... I can't get myself to like Void, not as anything but a black hole. I know it can be made to not look like that, I went through a lot of colour combinations. A yellow Void looks pretty good, as a point of fact, and it IS kind of cool to have this "Graaarh!" moment where Xanta rears up and explodes everyone around her... But for some reason, I still prefer the look of Ionic for her. Void looks like smoke no matter what I do. It looks like gas. It's cool if that's the point, and I have characters for whom this will DEFINITELY work, but for Xanta, lightning from the sky just works better. Even if it's not Zeus' Lightning, it still works the best of them all. I've tried it by this point, and it works. It looks divine and it looks brutal, which is all I really want.
Mind you, there are no real right and wrong decisions here. It all comes down to preference and "feel," and to me me Ionic feels more direct.
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Just when I thought I had this licked, a friend of mine gave me a new spin on Void that I... Really cannot argue against. Instead of pretending Void is some kind of physical attack, his idea was that... What if it's a battle cry? All of a sudden I remember that this is actually a part of Xanta's concept - that deafening, chilling roar - that had been there since I made her six or so years ago, and I've just downplayed or forgotten recently. Having gone through a Barbarian in Diablo 3 recently and seen battle cries done right... I really don't see why Xanta can't do that, herself. In fact, it makes considerably more sense than having her shoot lightning, both in terms of how I've written for her as a character and how I'd imagine she'd fight. I've actually written quite a few fights for her where she is able to cow and scatter enemies just by roaring at them and slamming her sword in the ground (hence the pose in the pic).
So what about the Negative Energy damage? Meh, I figure this isn't a physical attack, so a shout doing some kind of dark energy? Sure, why not? I even find a much better colouring scheme now that I'm not trying to depict physical force, which is essentially red and black. And I like the idea... Dang, guess I'm making another one. All'a y'all who suggested Void can feel vindicated now
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Ohhhh.