Flambeaux "inspired" by G.K. Chesterton?
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Posted on: 2012-05-27 08:05 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
That's interesting. The evidence is more compelling with the title "The Flying Stars" in contrast to City of Heroes group she's affiliated with "The Shining Stars". Having not read this book, I'm interested if the rest of the cast is somehow represented by members of this supergroup as well? Twinshot, Proton, etc.
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I couldn't agree more.
I don't think Flambeaux was originally designed to fall into villainy. Or be a member of the Shining Stars, for that matter.
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Yeah, originally her only purpose was to be one for the heroes who would stop Villains in one of the Mayhem Missions. I believe the Atlas Park mission to be specific.
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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
I don't think Flambeaux was originally designed to fall into villainy. Or be a member of the Shining Stars, for that matter.
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Flambeau also reforms after his first few appearances, becoming a friend (and professional detective himself). Flying Stars is actually his last appearance as a criminal. (It's also a fake name as well - his actual name is Hercule Duroc)
As for Flambeaux, yeah, she didn't start acting villainous (or really get much of a personality at all) until she started appearing in Tip missions, long after she'd already been introduced to the game.
They're both named for the French word for "torch", though Flambeaux is plural for some reason.
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I don't think it was a "book" per se - I got the impression that the Father Brown stories were short stories published in a magazine, much like Sherlock Holmes. I've haven't read them, so I'm not sure how much of a "recurring cast" there was from one story to the next.
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Originally Posted by Lycantropus
That's interesting. The evidence is more compelling with the title "The Flying Stars" in contrast to City of Heroes group she's affiliated with "The Shining Stars". Having not read this book, I'm interested if the rest of the cast is somehow represented by members of this supergroup as well? Twinshot, Proton, etc.
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Hmmm... plural? That would support some of my theories about Flambeaux suffering from multiple personality disorder...
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Originally Posted by Thunder Knight
They're both named for the French word for "torch", though Flambeaux is plural for some reason.
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Oh please, it's public domain by now, I'd think.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Time to generic her!
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Time to generic her!
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Originally Posted by Scythus
Oh please, it's public domain by now, I'd think.
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So they're only just out of the woods
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although, I don't know of anything that was published after a certain cartoon mouse made it's debut that has gone into the public domain (and probably never will if a certain corporation continues to buy copyright law
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Originally Posted by Tyger
Yep, he passed in 1936 so that's 76 years ago, one year clear of authored copyright which is life+75 years if IIRC.
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Yep, he passed in 1936 so that's 76 years ago, one year clear of authored copyright which is life+75 years if IIRC.
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I like tea!
And yeah, public domain. I picked up Chesterton's Orthodoxy for free on my Kindle.
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I'm really heartened to see people reading Father Brown stories. 
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I've read the stories, and I can't see that much resemblance, apart from the name. The CoH character is female, dim, spoiled and vain, and starts as a Hero. The C.K. Chesterton character is male, highly intelligent, a bit spoiled and vain, and starts as a Rogue, eventually becoming a hero as a result of Father Brown's intervention.
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Originally Posted by Mister Rik
I was reading about G.K. Chesterton the other day on Wikipedia, and came across this interesting bit about his Father Brown stories:
The character name there, along with Father Brown's description of a criminal becoming worse and worse, resembles Flambeaux's "descent" in-game. I have to wonder if this bit of Chesterton was part of the inspiration for the CoH Flambeaux character. |
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I wasn't thinking that Flambeaux was prefectly modeled after Flambeau himself. Rather, the name, plus Father Brown's words about not staying on one level of evil. When she starts showing up in Hero tip missions, at first she's just being a bit unethical in her attempts to get attention, like apparently setting up a situation so that she can run in and "save the day". But it gradually gets worse until, by the higher-level tip missions, she's actively committing violent crimes herself.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
I've read the stories, and I can't see that much resemblance, apart from the name. The CoH character is female, dim, spoiled and vain, and starts as a Hero. The C.K. Chesterton character is male, highly intelligent, a bit spoiled and vain, and starts as a Rogue, eventually becoming a hero as a result of Father Brown's intervention.
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While we're on the subject of Chesterton, I commend The Man Who Was Thursday, one of the strangest espionage stories of all time, to everyone's attention.
I was going to teach a course on Law and Literature where one of the books would be Chesterton's Club of Queer Trades (the connection with law becomes clear if you read the book), but the idea for the course was rejected before I could make a final proposal.
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I was reading about G.K. Chesterton the other day on Wikipedia, and came across this interesting bit about his Father Brown stories: