What new Primary power we should ask now?

I really think we could really use a Science/Mutant themed set. I pitched one to Synapse a few months back that I called "Abomination Summoning" and he thought it sounded interesting.

Not that I ever expect to see it, but the gist is that the creatures you summon are laboratory test subjects/accidents. I figured the low tier pets would be similar to the Praetorian Ghouls, but I can't really remember what I'd suggested for the other two pets.

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

I have more ideas for MM Primaries than air to breathe but reading up-thread as someone said: I'd like them to fix what we have first before giving us any more broken crap. However, assuming that's done:

1) An elemental set. However the four basic elements don't lend themselves to 6 minions so we use earth, wind, water, fire, Mind and the Boss is an amalgam creature called the Gaia.

2) Arachnos spiders. The animations are all done already...just need to code them to obey...or not as most pets are wont to do...

3) I like the celestial/angel idea as a perfect counterpoint to Demons. Needs a good secondary though...

4) The medieval set is nice too but it might look a bit too much like Zombies only alive. Staff and Bow for the Minions, Knights for the Lts and a wizard for the Boss works really well it seems. I liked the idea of one Knight with sword and shield and the other with TW. Keeps them interesting.

5) Subterranean creatures might be interesting. 3 Morlocks, 2 hybrid Morlock/monster hybrids and the Boss would be animated magma.

6) Shadow Beasts. 3 Imp-like minions, 2 Shades and one Umbral Beast with less howling/barking.

7) Illusion/Mind is a good idea too IMHO. All the summoned critters are mental constructs of some kind. Minions could be ranged, Lts melee and the Boss would be called a Nightmare and be some terrible monster.

But as I said...no more new stuff until existing stuff gets fixed...

Not sure if it has been said already but I would like to see Atlantean pets. Using the announced Water Blast set at the last summit and the Staff Fighting, trident weapon. Some decent pets can probably be made.

I would like to see a MM set with no theme. Just tier 1, 2 and 3 pets with powers but no pattern to one another. So it would be like a group of heroes or villains brought together by the MM, like a miniature Justice League. One pet would be a melee specialist, another ranged, a support specialist, a taunter type and of course, controls.

I also want cowboys/indians, insects, aliens and the angel sets.

I have never really found Mercs to be that bad. They have their downsides compared to other pets but in the end, they still held up well through content I played. The 'stay' command is a Merc's best friend. I say leave mercs be and just create Guerrillas or Green Berets. Gorillas! Vicious monkeys like in Rise of the Planet of the Apes or Congo. Strong smashing attacks and they throw bananas and fling their feces at targets.

I was giving this idea some thought earlier and I have 2 possible ideas - one would probably preclude the other getting in any time soon as they have a somewhat similar theme though.

These are just my crazy ramblings >_< I freely admit they may be unworkable or at least not what most folks want. (They are very much what I want though.)

1) Cimerorans - I have an interesting idea for a mechanic for them too; instead of the usual "3 minions, 2 Lts. and a boss" setup, what about:

6 Underlings - Pilum attack at range, Gladius up close - they have some defense from their shield abilities, most crucially Phalanx Fighting and Grant Cover, so an individual Legionaire is easy pickings, but the whole pack might actually be relatively resilient.

2 Minions and a Lt - all from the second power; - 2 Immunes Surgeon-like Minions and an Oracle-style Lt with Time Manipulation powers.

1 Boss, a Centurion who acts like a much much much superior version of the Underlings, and has Leadership abilities instead of Grant Cover and Phalanx Fighting.

For personal attacks - sword abilities! I figure the bonus for being a squishy that melees might actually make them worthwhile, though probably still not great. Might theoretically be worth taking for the -Def though. Maybe.

For a level 18 Support power I can think of a few options, but the one I like best is "Reinforcements" - which would replace your henchmen instantly, the replacements already being upgraded and equipped with some kind of short term "vengeance" buff. Of course the ability would be on a long-ish cooldown.

The main idea is it's a very careful consideration when you want to actually use it - the only henchies who'd get the Vengeance buffs are the ones that arrive via the power, so if you use it when just your Underlings are dead, it might not be as valuable as waiting until your army is wiped... on the other hand if you do that you may get KO'd for your trouble.

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The other is more traditional MM - Knights!

3 Footmen (Sword and Shield, with a crossbow at range, but they prefer melee), 2 Knights (Similar to the footmen but stronger, can use a weaker version of Shield Charge), and a Paladin to top it all off. The Pally is a Titan Weapon/Empathy type.

Sounds pretty plain so far right? Here's the odd bit about this set - similar to the above I see a sword for the MMs personal attacks... and at level 18 the MM gets a very unusual support power called 'Warrior-Leader'.

The idea here is it's a shield-looking toggle (and grants you a token amount of personal defense and damage resistance, but those aren't the point of the power) that has a Fury-like effect on your henchmen. As you fight with your personal attacks, they gain confidence in your ability to lead them and do more damage as a result.

I figure it makes sense for this kind of theme to allow the mastermind to be more directly involved in combat, and indeed provide incentive for them to do so.

Just my crazy ideas < . .>

How about nictus?

You get Nictus Bolt right away, which is PB or WS colorable (one or the other). Your Tier 1 pet would be a Create Lesser unbound nictus. You don't get a second tier pet, but you can get the ability to change into a nova or a crab (at a higher level). You could get this power somewhere in there.

Summon Lesser Shadow Cyst Crystal (Targetable location)
Summons a smaller shadow cyst crystal that works like Gang warfare with little unbound fragments. The damage would be different and either at the end of its duration or when its destroyed it explodes and causes Foe Disorient, similar to its normal cousin

Your second pet would be a Create Greater Nictus Essence, which would be somewhat fluffy-like.

I'd like to see some canon based ones:

Vanguard
Malta
KoA
Longbow
PPD
Pantheon
Tsoo
Arachnos
etc

Goblins/dark fay. ;P

I have my personal favorite, but instead of that I would like them to fix the pet AI they broke with the four legged rig "BEFORE" they do anything else in the game.

They are trying to pretend like it is not broken and "any" request other than them fixing the AI first need to take a backseat despite people's need/desire for new shinnies.

Transforme give me a new idea for a robotic set.

You will have your New and different robot, However you like then but They will have a new mechanic.

When you Put then in agresive they will change form and show some kind of gatling gun, rocket laucher,ect.They will have more attacks and a faster cycle attack. Also when you Put then in BG they will change form again but this time they will look more sturdy and resislent, they will have more shield, and buff active in this form.

This way, the mode you put your robots on will affect the way they will behave and improve that mode. I.E. If one of then have BUff or heal, when you put then in BG he could lose his attacks and focus on heal/repair your robots. In BG more They would live more and agresive deal more dmg.

I have no idea how to explain the aparence something futurisc and military like machine... >.<

Snakes Summoning

Rock Band, always rock bad

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Originally Posted by Radiac I vote for Cheeta's idea, I want a rock and roll band as a pet set. I also want the option of making them an all-female band (Gem the Holograms play Paragon City! Woo-hoo!)

Even more support

I'm hoping for a Science themed set sometime. Thing someone posted his idea for a "Blob Monster" set a few months ago. It was pretty nice.

i proposed a duplication/cloning set a while ago in the suggestions forum, and it made a lot of sense and was really nice [i was quite proud] but now im not sure where it was...



but i'd like Swamp Summoning with tuatha like creatures and a tidbit of plany attacks mixed in...

or the Celestial Summoning with nothing tooo angel specific since the devs are touchy about that, and have it more sky/elemental ish and hit two birds with one stone.

One super pet with multiple themes..

The Tier pets are incorporated into it, so in essence each new pet would be upgrade and the pet would change in physical appearance. Or go on the cheap and the Pet doesn't change appearance wise and just gets new powers.

Honestly the 2nd route would make it more viable because as with any new mastermind pet set they look to make 3 new models. So instead of making 3 new models for 1 set, they can make 3 new super pet models.


Frankenstein monster theme.
Giant Robot theme.
Biomorph theme - like living organism, human like mob that has living tissue in the shape of weapons or whatever.
Ancient Demon theme - Basically like demon summoning just its one larger pet.
Human sidekick theme - For all intent and purposes its just like having another player with you. Instead of dying he ports out and ports back in when summoned.

I'd rather have more secondaries.

Give me /Cold or give me death!

I'd like a genetic experiment type primary. It would fit in well with a science theme.

The only problem is that they would probaby do a bit of poison/toxic damage which is taken care by necromancy.

Still, if we could get it something like 3 deformed standard minions; maybe have some scars on them or damaged skin, showing they've been the sort of zombie-like brain-damaged minions. Probably be able to inflict a slight slowdown (not much, though). For ranged they could just hurl acid jars or something for damge.

Second tier could either be lab helpers, maybe with a strong focus of throwing varying liquids to cause a decent number of debuffs and they could stay ranged with toxic damage or some such (maybe guns that shoot out liquid that burns the skin and melts steel so it can logically harm bots). Maybe give them psionic damage? Since they've had their minds altered to be more powerful, giving them psionic powers.

Third tier I'm not sure of. I thin this and the second tier could be swapped depending on what would seem more science-y. Either a brute like large creature, maybe with a melee weapon or not. Blunt damage. Knockback perhaps or some sort of stun (he would be very strong, after all). Maybe he could have ice attacks, since he could be made up from all sorts of body parts and experiments.

Second and third tier could easily be swapped. If we went three genetic creatures, a bit of throwing random jars of liquid for range, we could have two brute like creatures. For buffs we could just say the gases they put out buffs the other minions. Then maybe a psionic based 3rd tier minion.

Or if we go for a brute at the end, I've outlined it above.

And now I want it in game :/