Suggestion: Revamp T9VIP

I was talking about the following suggestion in one of my Global Channels, some people understood my view, some didn't, and some were against this. So i know that this could create some backlash from some, and some love from others.

My suggestion:
Make T9VIP accessible to all VIPs, not just the ones who filled the whole Reward Tree, and rename it T-VIP.

The main argument people have brought up is that this eliminates the 'Long Term player' reward, and this is somewhat true.
However, currently people can buy their way to T9 in one day, thus T9VIP is not just for long time veterans, but for all who have filled the whole Reward Tree anyway they can.
My main argument is that T9VIPs is for VIPs only, but it discriminates between VIPs who have either been here a long time, bought their way up the tree and those who can not afford to spend much money on the game but are still actively subbed.
I have been here close to 3 years now, only let my account lapse 2 times, total lapsed time little over a month, because of my current financial struggles, and i think a lot of people can understand this. However, i am still a VIP, but can not pick the VIP rewards because i'm currently halfway into T6.

An example of how this could work:
Player A became VIP, receiving his reward token. T1 is filled, and now he has the option to place a token in T2, receiving the option to access the Trench Coat costume piece. Also because he filled T2, he now has access to Tells, Global Channels, AE and more even when he drops to Premium, basically following the current system.
With T-VIP, he can choose to not slot T2, but pick a VIP reward, since he is a VIP. This would mean that when he drops to Premium the following month, he does not have access to Tells, AE, Global Channels and such.
This opens up more freedom for VIPs, while still limiting the amount of rewards they get with 1 Reward Token.

I understand that people throwing money at the game is always nice, but i do know that the longevity of a game is based on subscribers, not just the amount of cash it generates. And i believe with this system, it could increase the subscriber rating, as well as generate a little more cash.

Anyways, this is just my opinion, it is neither right nor wrong.
Looking forward to the feedback regarding this, either constructive feedback as to why you do not like this idea, or why you think this would be good or bad for the game.

This is a great way to justify you getting celestial, fire/ice, and soon mecha.

But than what would the elite snobs of the game have over us?

Surely we must think of them as well.


I'm currently in tier 6 as well. Just be patient. So we miss out on celestial and prolly fire/ice until they come out again. Great looking pieces but it looks like your surviving just fine without them right now.

As a T9 VIP, this gets my signed. The only stuff in there so far is costume parts, and some of the better ones at that. Gating them like that is just....eh. I can't say I approve. So, yeah, /Signed

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No.

Tier 9 is for those of us who have played the game for a dedicated amount of time.

Who have earned it through dedication. No Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I must has nao.

Sorry to see your 2010 reg date, but you must wait.

I don't see a major issue with this. While I don't think the devs will do it, it's not a bad idea in my opinion.

I agree. Really, T9 isn't hard to buy with the current system. And it would make perfect sense for the money making aspect, as in order for the people who weren't VIP to fill them up, they'd have to buy Paragon Points in order to get the token to fill out that tier.

So yeah, thumbs up on this one from me.

I'm in T9, and a VIP. I am for this idea. /signed.

Here's the problem with that. Lets say they make it where anyone with a VIP current status can purchase any VIP tier 9. And lets say that 'bob' I'll call him. Player Bob who is a free player decides he wants those really bad. He pays for 1 month of game and buys some PP points, spending maybe 50 bucks. Earning himself a few extra Reward tokens to spend. He slots out those pretty VIP costume pieces an then he never pays again until there is something luring to him again.

Yeah. VIP status now a days is just for who spends the most money into the game but its marketing and its how its done. Lowering the requirement for those costume pieces isnt gonna encourage more members to stay as VIP, its going to probably lessen that urge to keep paying and sending reward tokens since well, why do that when you can just pay for the game, when you want.

I could viably see people only paying game time every three months or so to get the new shinies then stop paying.

And 'Bob' will miss out on the other rewards he could have picked with his Reward Tokens.

I do understand your point of view however, People just subbing to get the VIP Rewards. At the same time, that's all they are getting, they are not unlocking the items that is now mandatory to move up the reward tree, meaning they either have to shell out more cash, or stay subbed longer to get those rewards.

IMO, this is a win/win for both players and NCsoft.

Seems like a good idea to me, never understood why it was T9 VIP, it should just be VIP. . .

Gotta say I agree with this proposal.

It would mean that I woulda progressed a little slower on the Standard Tiers... but I would have Celestial by now, which would be awesome. I just wouldn't be almost done with T8 at this point.

I feel somethings should be awarded through hard work, Either Hard work or spend too much money. Any how I do believe somethings should be earn, Just be Patience and you be Tier 9 Vip one day.

I think i understand your view and it tbh was expecting something like this when it came out, but im happy with the system as it is..ok yer im a loooong time vet, but in my view if it aint broke...

For long term vets getting something nice like the t9vips adds something tbh and if everyone had the chance, then whats the feel for us. yer i can understand those who arent there has to wait - i mean back in the ole day i had to wait yr 1/2 i think to get sig helmets. and before that i had to wait 3 months before i could get wings. (Give or tht ofc) so i know what its like to have to wait. but...its nice being rewarded something for being vets.

As stated before, Long Time Vets and people who paid their way up the tree get 550PP a month, while the other VIPs who do not have T8 filled get 400PP a month. They also have the option to pick the T9 repeatable rewards.

VIPs who are on T3 and pick the VIP reward will not get 550PP a month, they will not have the choice to pick any of the T9 repeatable rewards either.

So to say that the Long Term Vets and the people who bought their way up the tree are losing out, is unfounded.
VIPs who prefer to pick a VIP reward instead of filling their own Tier delay their way up the Reward Tree, thus 'losing' potential benefits they could have picked and kept while they drop back to Premium.

The biggest difference is when people drop back to Premium.
If you as long term player or person who bought their way up the tree drop back to Premium, you still keep all the things you have unlocked along the way. People who instead picked VIP rewards instead of filling their tree have less 'perma' unlocked abilities.

People suggested similar ideas before Freedom went live.
I agreed with it then and I agree with it now.

Whatever they do, is the way it goes, so no big deal, but...
I just happen to think that holding costume additions (of the amount of options in there right now and the unique nature and quality of many of the pieces) is not as cool as having those options available to more players.

And I've been subscribed for around 4 years... But that's not long enough to have access to these rewards. Eh, I'm not enamored with that math, to be honest.

Oh look... it's one of those doing that.

It was brought up during the I21 closed beta.

We were told it was not possible due to a database issue, if I recall.

As I said then and continue to say, give me the option to pick rewards I want. I didn't need the GR enhancements since I had them on all my accounts from pre-ordering the game, so I effectively had to waste a token on 2 enhancement boosters.