Statesman's Log-in Screen Flatness...

She also had a generic face from out of the editor. Since she's getting shoved in our faces, someone clearly thought she needed a unique face, hence the new one. The new face is... Weird, though. Either her eyes are too wide apart or her nose is too wide, neither of which appeals to me. I'm no artist, but I'm told that the distance between the eyes should roughly be the width of one eye, which I'm not sure is true here.

I'm also not sure why they felt the need to swap skin tone... Maybe because she's Asian and all Asian people are supposed to be pale? I don't mean to insult, but it just seemed like Penny already had her skin tone set. I know this might just be tan, but it's still weird. It's twice as weird because the darker skin tone of her childhood would have made that costume work better. A lot of the problem is that her belly is so white it kind of blends in with her white pants. If her belly were darker and more tanned, it would have stood out more and made the costume a bit less confusing.

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Also, and this is something I've discussed with a few people, but you always want to take your character's physical appearance into account when designing a costume. You generally don't want to match or even approach physical characteristics with artificial costumes just because it makes the physique look artificial, itself. At the very least, it makes the costume confusing to look at. Whenever I look at Penny, my brain will alternately either see her midriff as being covered in white fabric or her bottom as going bare-butt. And it's distracting.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

my favorite is the spiderman one :3

http://www.gamersbin.com/attachments...4782_0HrMl.jpg

Wow. I really don't see the problem with that pose (in your link), but then I've sat with oth my legs crossed legged underneath me to get comfortable. *shrug*

Yes but what you just said is completely different from what's pictured.

What's pictured ISN'T relaxing at all, or realistic, or helpful to the human spine.

/shrug.

I think it's the back that gets people. Right now, I'm sitting pretty much yoga on my swivel chair as I type this, with both feet underneath my thighs and it's comfortable, but the reason it's comfortable is because most of the weight on my torso is resting on the spring-loaded back-rest of my chair (first and only swivel chair I've ever seen that had a spring-loaded backrest but NOT a tilting seat O_o). I'll also often sit sideways on couches, with one elbow on one armrest and both legs dangling over the other, almost like I'm in ancient Rome. But again, that's the entire side of my body taking my weight.

Mary-Jane is essentially standing on that couch, with her shin and her foot taking the entire weight of her body. As you can see in the pics of people trying it, that causes your foot to sink into the cushion and, on a futon with removable cushions, usually cause it to stick out in a very ugly way. It's also incredibly difficult to balance that way as the bulk of your body weight is is in your back, causing your entire torso to tip backwards. If MJ were resting her back against the backrest then I could see that. It's actually pretty comfortable, and her back would be spreading much of her body weight so she probably wouldn't sink in as much. However, she's not. The way she's arching her back, she's literally balancing on one shin and one foot.

I also don't think you can really sit on your leg like this. It puts essentially your entire body-weight over your ankle and jams the foot back, and it also compresses your knee, which is something I know a thing or two about. Usually when you see people sitting on their legs, they're not directly OVER the leg, but a bit sideways of it. Either the leg is tilted inside so you're resting partially on your shin and partially on your thigh and NOT directly on top of the ankle, or the leg is tilted outside and you're resting on the inside of your leg.

I tried this seat just now, and the result is I over-compressed the springs on my mattress, my ankle hurts and I nearly tumbled over backwards, avoiding smacking my head on the window sill behind just barely. And I'm not a big or inflexible guy.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Did you also manage to push your boobs together with both arms while casually sipping a cup of coffee and staring longingly into your hair?

Just curious!

If the answer is "yes", then pics or it didn't happen.

>.>

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

No, not really. I needed both hands behind me to hold my balance. If I tool my hands and tried to hold them in front, I'd tumble over backwards, which is what I reference before. Maybe I'm just not built with the right centre of gravity for this, but I tried pushing my chest out, I did what I could to hold my hands in front, but I kept leaning back. I guess if I had a 20-point cup of coffee in my hands as counter-weight that might have worked.

Yeah, I get that feeling from time to time. Frankly, I enjoy the game the least when it's designed such that I'm supposed to think of an existing character or story to get the necessary context, largely because I usually don't know what anything is referencing. However, I'm always left with the feeling that a character is supposed to mean SOMETHING, I just don't know what. It's the same feeling I had running through Praetoria and suspecting everyone I met was an alternate version of a Primal Earth character, but being unable to tell of whom.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I agree.

She looks very much like someone who grew up watching a lot of anime and immersed in the Japanese street racing scene. Which actually makes her costume kind of appropriate if that is indeed part of her background.

She would actually look more at home as part of the Praetorian Syndicate faction, since that scene seems to be a big inspiration for their look.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

With both legs is fine - it's the way she's got her strangely shaped left leg stuck out like that that's the problem - along with her broken pelvis and squashed lower torso

It's comfortable if you tuck both legs under, or sit with both of them drawn up, but not one of each

My guy parts may not agree. I'm not Statesman, after all!

I'm a guy and I can tell you it's doable, it's just a question of how you do it. Though you need kind of flexible ankles to pull it off, what MJ is doing is not the way to go. Again, you don't want to put the whole weight of your torso down onto one ankle. Trust me, that hurts.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Penny must have rolled a SS alt.

But we've never seen if Penny sits like that or not

It's crowded with all her clockwork guards. ;P

No need to over analyze it. I can get the jib of people making fun of it, but the context of the picture could be many a things. I'd probably need to see the panels that come after that, but that could very easily be Mary-Jane taking a break to stretch her back (and boobs, I guess...not complaining) after reading some articles waiting for Peter. It might not be a pose she's actively sitting in, but just a transitional/temporary position imagined by the artist to express more things about the character with only that one panel.

I find that I often sit like this when I'm at my computer:



Chibi face included.

It's the cover for this issue of the CoH comicbook, which features storylines involving Penny and Shadow Hunter

Being dead is an extreme makover

The CoH comicbook is currently discontinued - but I was referring to the Issue 23 content patch

What else do I do on the forums?

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I managed to get a peek at Penny's right leg on the background without the obstructions and WOW is this a weird ankle position. I'm not an artist... Or an orthopaedic, but that ankle position seems to me either severely dislocated or otherwise just inhuman. And it's not like I haven't seen feet like this, because I have. Jeremy Bernal was very fond of drawing them. What I haven't seen is an ankle bend BACK in actual real life. I know mine don't bend back farther than almost straight down.

Does anyone have evidence that that ankle position is even possible?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.