Statesman's Log-in Screen Flatness...

I wouldn't exactly call that guy an exceptional artist. Then again, maybe I know too much about him.

Considering his line of work, I'd say he's one of the better ones out there. Sure, his human anatomy isn't exactly spot on, but human anatomy isn't terribly relevant to his work. That said, I find he's one of the better ones out there for head artwork.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I don't know. I've seen velvet paintings with better anatomy in them. I guess he's OK for a Furry pr0n artist, but that's kind of like saying he's the best of the worst.

Plus, he tends to go on these kinds of ultra conservative political rants that make Rush Limbaugh appear perfectly sane in comparison. Who knew Marxists, Socialists, Communists and Democrats were all exactly the same type of people?

I don't really know much about the person's actual life, just just his artwork. And I wouldn't say his field is without artistic merit. Believe it or not, I've seen a lot of very solid artists in that line of work. Hell, the highly respected Fred Perry is one, or was at one point.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I don't exactly subscribe to the notion of death of the author. Or artist, as the case may be. His crazy rantings do indeed color my perception of the stuff he creates.

I admit that I don't know as much about Fred Perry, however. Other than his Gold Digger comic and that he's a vet of the first Iraq war. He tends to draw all his female characters alike, and all with some rather impossible anatomy. It's a bit silly! Another best of the worst.

I'm not saying I'm discounting it, just that I didn't know anything about it. On the subject, Jim Sterling has a pretty good video discussing this[/url]. Personally, I'm on the fence about supporting authors I dislike as people, but I see no qualm in enjoying the works of authors I dislike as people if I already own it (and it's enjoyable to begin with). Not quite "death of the author," so much as if a work is enjoyable on its own merits, I can put aside the real world and enjoy it.

Hell, I can even enjoy Jay Naylor's artwork even though the stories in that guy's comic books make me sick more often than not.

The lesson to take away is I don't really mind absurd physique so long as artwork is done with style and artistry, I guess. Honestly, I don't even dislike the background in question, I just dislike Penny in it, and specifically her chin. I don't like her costume design, I don't like her leap-frogging a zillion other characters and becoming the most important, I don't like that Sister Psyche had to die for Penny to take centre stage and I don't like how she's being presented here.

I don't mind women being drawn sexy if that's part of their characterisation. Going back to the Gunslinger set, I didn't mind all the Saloon Girl clothes so much as I disliked there not being anything BUT Saloon Girl stuff in there for women. If a character is drawn up like Emma Frost and being sexy is part of her character considerations, then sure. I have a character inspired by Bunnie Love, myself. But that's not every character, and some really SHOULDN'T be depicted like this. Penny, to me, is one such character who just shouldn't have been drawn up like this, from inception on.

The Penelope Yin of Faultline, even if I were willing to grit my teeth and accept she's supposed to be 18, just doesn't strike me as someone who'd parade in high heels, arch her back to show off her breasts and routinely dislocate her ankles. I could buy it from Sister Psyche just based on how she's been presented. Swan, maybe. But not Penny. Even if she's not a "kid" any more (anyone get the feeling they aged her so they could pose her without feeling guilty?), she still strikes me as the kind to wear sensible shoes, use actual clothes and fight with a more practical style, as opposed to the twisted up posing of bustier models.

Let's take "Mother" as the most blatant example. Mother does not believe in pants, mother has a "boob window," and mother has gratuitous chest shots and panty shots. Excessive? Probably, but I get what the artists were going for, and I can appreciate it. But not every character is Mother Mayhem. Not every character should be treated like this. And what worries me is I'm not sure this distinction exists with our art team. I'm not sure someone can sit down and give me an account of which characters are OK to be used as cheesecake and which aren't, because I fear they're all fair game. I wouldn't, for instance, expect to see Valkyrie stick out her chest like she's trying to bust through a wall, curve her spine like a snake and sway her hips to look "sexay!" because that's not the character I understand her to be. Yet I still fully expect to see artwork of her doing just that.

Someone once took a cover of Wonder Woman swaying her hips and holding her lasso between her legs and redid it with a bunch of make DC heroes, and it looked pretty frikkin' weird with them in the cover. I probably don't know enough about Wonder Woman to tell either way, but she doesn't really strike me as someone to pose, either, being the warrior princess of the Amazons, so to me at least, the cover looks weird with her on it, as well.

What I'm trying to say is I see nothing wrong with "sexy" so long as it belongs to the appropriate people for whom it actually makes sense in-character.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

That's been around for a while - it also has more characters in it than just those 2.

Now now, GG! You can use your fingers to count if you can't go that high.

Check the picture again!

I'm not talking about Posi and the background squad

The Statesman has really nice teeth I always wondered how people's masks wrapped so neatly around their ears, too. Do they sew ear pockets into them?

Good artwork, though. The BCU is actually kind of awesome I just need to figure out what, exactly, the Statesman is doing to hurt it. To me, it looks like he's holding it back with his right arm so he can punch it with his left, but then the chin sparks make it look like he punched it, but then that arm position doesn't look like it could have resulted in from a downward punch. Maybe an uppercut, but...

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

See? That's SO much freaking better! Why is it so hard to see what works and what doesn't...?

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Sam get's it spot on.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.