Sneak Peek at retro SciFi

That's not the point, As long as the new policy is in effect, I'm not planning to spend a single point for costume pieces.

I'm not butthurt or anything and I've actually purchased every single pack available in the NCSoft store and Paragon market. I was buying everything as soon as it was released without caring whether I was going to use any of these pieces. I left for personal reasons after the Gunslinger pack was released and recently came back. The first thing I did was log in game and purchase every costume bundle available. I ran out of points and before I could get some more, I read that thread about "sexism" in costume design and that other one about Dink's awesome effort to make pieces from the Magic/Steampuck/Gunslinger packs available to female toons. This was the thread in which the new policy was announce and when I made my choice to stay away from all future packs. So, just for the record, I have everything except the Gunslinger pack.

wut.

Pretty lame reason to deprive yourself of some quality costumes, tbh. But whateves.

Lame? The new policy takes sexism up to eleven. Zwillinger said no male items ever, so no new faces, new hairstyles, new anything. Only unisex and females exclusives. That's not lame, that's disgusting.

I felt the same way. But as it turns out there are new male faces in the Sci Fi pack. Several of us were pretty ticked, and it became a flame war in Dink's thread.

Got any example of gereral clothing items that only men wear in the real world?

Do we really need to do this all over again?

I'm sorry, but did you not notice the new faces with the pack?

Well, it appears that there are still some guys who don't get it.

And some girls who don't get why it bothers the guys. That knife cuts both ways.

I didn't know CoH was taking place in the real world. And if you want to take inspiration from the real world, why look at the 21st century only?

If a Victorian pack is made for example, we should get the proper clothing for that era which was extremely gender specific.

And costume parts are rarely used as intended. Look at the think tank; now count how many used that item for its intended purpose and how many used it to make headless character. When you limiting access to a costume piece, you're also prohibiting a lot more concepts that you can imagine at first; you're limiting players' creativity.

Anyway, this was my personal opinion and I'm not trying to convince anyone. From now on, I won't buy a pack unless there are male specific items or only unisex items. And even then I will probably buy specific items and not the whole bundle, something that I would never do before. Unless they actually start transfering some items from females to males, then I will keep my points for powersets and stuff.

So, I don't know where you saw that men wouldn't be getting new faces, but I'm thinking that who ever said it was wrong.

It's a faulty assumption caused by badly misreading redname posts. He translated 'unisex and female costume pieces' to 'nothing for guys EVER, including hair and faces'.

And I will be buying whatever I have a use for rather than attempting to turn the game into a battleground in a sociopolitical war that has been waged to varying degrees for centuries with no signs of stopping any time soon.

How many, and which ones?

Except that already happened when extreme sexism became the official company policy. And I'm not planning on funding this stupidity, which in the long run will only mean less and less costume options for me.

What costume parts should only men get? What kinds of clothing would women choose not to wear?

Look up a few posts.

Your entire premise is wrong. Not just misguided, but proven incorrect.

So, ok apparently we get 2 new faces, the Living Ham and Mr. Constipated. Yes, this changes everything..

What retro sci-fi stuff should be only available to males? What parts of it would women not want to wear?

Your own words: Hate the policy for your own weird reasons if you must, but if they are directly contradicted by reality then don't be surprised when someone points it out.

My opinion is that everything should be available to anyone. Now, I understand that this is most likely an inefficient use of resources, so I didn't have a propblem with how things were handled until the Gunslinger pack. I respect that people, especially those who didn't like the pieces females were getting, had a problem with this. But because I wished for parts I couldn't get, I can relate to them. What I don't get is that now that guys wish the same, nobody can understand this or at least respect that.

I haven't seen anyone, man or woman, walk around with tights, buttcapes, or sci-fi dresses. This is not real life. Why can't male toons have access to buttcapes, shoulder pets, hairstyles, female exclusive glove options and a lot more that I don't have the time to list? What annoys me more is that people are quick to prove me wrong when I'm asking the same thing other where asking but from the other gender. So, thanks for proving that sexism is planted deep in your heads.

well, it certainly demolishes your assertion that there's some kind of official ban on NEVER EVER ADDING ANYTHING FOR MEN EVER AGAIN.


protip:

when yer neck deep in a hole, its time to stop digging.

I was forming an opinion based on what Zwillinger announced as the new policy. He said no male exclusive pieces. Apparently it turns out that this does not include faces. So?

Read your own sig.

Anyway, apparenlty this is not the kind of forum where people can actually voice their opinion and quote an actual announcement made by a redname. Didn't know that and I apologise.

I love this argument. It's so ridiculous, and it never stops being so whenever it comes up.

You voiced your opinion, right enough. What you want and are sulking about is that you expected people to agree, not laugh.