F2p players can't make use of Hero/Villain packs?

Catalyst's are incarnate drops (they drop from any mob in any incarnate trial like threads only its very rare 1 in 5 or 6 run maybe) and like any other incarnate drop they can't be traded.

That changes nothing about what I said.

The inability to use something won in a gamble pack was considered a problem by the devs.

This was communicated to us in the context of discussing the RMT aspect of making them tradeable.

The fact that you don't have a problem with the RMT part is irrelevant, as it was only the topic under discussion when the devs commented on and acknowledged the idea that getting a prize your could not use would be a problem.

I don't care about RMT either, i was simply offering context.

If you noticed Lucky pointed out I was mistaken and I acknowledged my error and implied it has given me something new to consider tho I'm not sure it will change my mind about the IO's that are account bound.

I need some clarification from your last post. How exactly do you mean RMT? I ask because I'm am dead set against RMT sites and in my mind RMT means those thieving pancakes.

If you mean it as micro-transactions, well I'm not in favor of them, but I'm a realist, I accept that when a game goes F2P they become a part of life. However there's very little I choose to spend extra money on.

What if he bought a pack of Magic cards and had zero interest in playing blue, even though he got a blue rare?

He could do what I did. Sell them to someone that uses it.

Trading and selling trading cards? Crazy talk.

You're probably right, and selling stuff here would probably never work. We'd need something like a market where you could sell AT IO's to other players on any server or faction. Then you'd need to find players willing to buy them.

Madness.

heh heh

News flash. F2P players never spend a dime on the game so everything in the market is useless to them. DERP! They also can't buy

Only Prems and VIP's can use the items in super packs.

ROFMAO!

Reward Merits - Useless. No Prem ever uses merits
Resurrection temp powers - Useless. Prem characters never die.
Enhancement Unslotters - Useless. No Prem ever wants to remove an enhancement without burning an entire respec.
Inspirations - Useless. No Prem ever wants powerful buffs that help themselves and their teammates.
Enhancement Boosters - Useless. No Prem ever wants more powerful enhancements.
Catalysts - Useless. No Prem would want to enhance an ATO.
ATO's - Useless. No Prem would want to use ATO's or sell them on the market for millions of Inf.
Costume pieces - Useless. Everyone knows Prems like running around in the default generic costume.


Windfall temp power- Useless. No Prem wants a 25% increase on the influence they earn.
Prestige Booster - Useless. No Prem wants a 50% Prestige boost.
XP Booster - Useless. No Prem wants a 25% boost to the experience they earn.
Experienced temp power - Useless. No Prem wants to be able to claim half a level of Patrol XP.

Prems hate getting extra Inf, Prestige, and Exp so much that they have universally agreed that they are boycotting the Double XP weekend on the 16th because if they participated they'd be getting double the Inf, Prestige, and Exp they normally get.

Finally there's the Black Wolf non combat pet. Absolutely useless, and frelling uber rare to boot. Not one Prem or VIP has ever said that they wanted that stupid thing.


Oh and by the way, the Market License is only $2 dollars. Prem's don't "have" to spend $60 bucks to use it.

Super Packs cost 80 points ($1) for one and 1440 points ($18) for 24. That's hardly "never spend a dime."

While true, considering they just did spend $1 or more, requiring another $2 to make that first expenditure fully useful seems poor customer relations. Personally, I don't think the addition $2 should be necessary.

And frankly, I could do without the ROFMAO!, as that comes across as mocking the poster, and their opinions. Let's not throw any more gas on the fire, eh?

If you spent any money on the game, you're no longer a F2Per, you're a Premium player. And even if you somehow got GIFTED a pack, you could still use most of what you get.

If you hadn't noticed the person I was quoting is acknowledging a distinction between F2P and Prem accounts. The poster means F2P = Freem.

The distinction between Free and Prem accounts is the only fact correct in that persons post. The rest is just that persons biased opinion.

Well to be perfectly honest it was intended to come across as mocking so I won't apologize for it, but out of respect for you I will attempt to reign it in. Being a self admitted jerk it can get away from me cuz it's instinctive.

ROFMAO! indeed.

You don't LIKE the stuff, and WON'T use it. Not CAN'T...WON'T.

Thank you for that. Honestly, I was a jerk to someone else on these forums a while back, and now I regret it. So I'm trying to behave better myself.

QFT. I swear people do not know the difference between can't and won't anymore.

Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

Whurr ebil stop sign done go? Whurr ebil stop sign!?




(I figured since we're now down to arguing about semantics and quibbling over what "is" is, the thread topic is done and it is now open discussion.)

Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

No, I think in this particular discussion, the difference between "can't" and "won't" is a valid point to make.

You mean Large Inspirations, Single Origin Enhancements, and Archetype Enhancements are all nothing? No Freem or Prem ever uses them, even tho they can all be bought with Reward Merits and none of them requires an IO lisense?

And are you actually going to try to argue that no Prem player has unlocked the Lifetime Access to the Invention System Paragon Reward? You really don't have a clue as to how many players are 4, 5, 6 year vets that dropped to Prem to save some money.

No. I'm just more familiar with the game mechanics than you are.

Of course no Free or Prem has ever joined another persons team/trial and didn't have control of the mission difficulty, and has never been in a situation where they needed more "Awakens" than they were carrying, or been on a team that didn't have an Emp or someone with the Medicine pool. And no Free or Prem player has ever refused to hit the Hospital just because it was on the other side of the zone or in another zone altogether and it would take too long to get back to the mission.

Nope all Prem players are hardcore soloists.

Are you sure that Prem players are all experts at designing builds and never make mistakes. Also are you certain that the devs have never changed the way a power works so it becomes necessary to alter the enhancements that are slotted in it.

And you know for a fact that no Prem players have unlocked the Lifetime Access to the Invention System Paragon Reward. Not one had an account active long enough prior to Freedom launching to unlock that reward. Riiight.

You obviously have never been up against an AV, a GM, or in a PvP zone. None of which require access to Itrials and Incarnate content. You also seem to be completely unaware of how many players take pride in soloing AV's and GM's, and they do it by popping inspirations.

You seem awfully certain there are no Prem players that have unlocked the Lifetime Access to the Invention System Paragon Reward.

And there are plenty of Prems that do want those costume pieces.

That's only your opinion much like nearly everything else you have said.

Do you honestly think there are no SG's with multiple Prem players that would ever want to earn prestige faster.

I gotta ask, have you ever actually played this game? Cuz I find it hard to believe that you've never seen Prems running back to back DfB's, TF's, Farms, etc in order to level up as fast as possible.

And yet there are countless posts where both Prems and VIP's have been complaining about how hard it is to get the wolf.

Was more aiming my comments at Forbin and Kimuki's bickering.

Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

Uhm Agge I'm not disputing semantics with Kimuki, I'm disputing his mistaken belief that every Prem player shares his opinions about the items in the Super Packs.

Nothing was changed recently, but you neglected the possibility that your assumptions are incomplete and/or wrong.