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Girls wearing coats and jackets?
Blasphemous! YOU WILL DRESS LIKE A SALOON GIRL AND ONLY LIKE A SALOON GIRL AND YOU WILL LIKE IT
Girls wearing coats and jackets?
Blasphemous! YOU WILL DRESS LIKE A SALOON GIRL AND ONLY LIKE A SALOON GIRL AND YOU WILL LIKE IT |
When you're done not finding that, then give me a good reason why guys don't get an olde-timey bartender outfit with suspenders and an apron included in that bundle?
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Right. Point me a post by ANYONE who said that girls shouldn't have gotten the Gunslinger gear because they "shouldn't wear coats and jackets."
When you're done not finding that, then give me a good reason why guys don't get an olde-timey bartender outfit with suspenders and an apron included in that bundle? |
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True enough. I'm annoyed over this change and the people saying I'm a whiny ***** for not liking this are just making it worse. Apparently parity is only required when boys get something new; when girls get something I just have to sit there and keep my mouth shut.
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The devs have already promised us that they'll be more aware of these issues in future. To judge by the work going on with the Sci-Fi Pack and the Elemental Order Pack, they're genuinely trying.
Right. Point me a post by ANYONE who said that girls shouldn't have gotten the Gunslinger gear because they "shouldn't wear coats and jackets."
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But by all means, continue to scrutinize the dental work on this gift horse.
Right. Point me a post by ANYONE who said that girls shouldn't have gotten the Gunslinger gear because they "shouldn't wear coats and jackets."
When you're done not finding that, then give me a good reason why guys don't get an olde-timey bartender outfit with suspenders and an apron included in that bundle? |
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Right. Point me a post by ANYONE who said that girls shouldn't have gotten the Gunslinger gear because they "shouldn't wear coats and jackets."
When you're done not finding that, then give me a good reason why guys don't get an olde-timey bartender outfit with suspenders and an apron included in that bundle? |
Thank you, thank you, thank you. You've made these packs really worth owning, and I'm anxious for their Live release.
Also, I hope you realize that if we were indeed to "divvy up the boy and girl columns" as the Gentlemen put it
you wouldn't be getting a new spiffy male outfit to wear
you would be getting saloon dresses and hair bows
Which there's totally nothing wrong with. Cause that would be awesome. But I just felt like it was necessary to point out what you would be getting so that when the time comes, you don't ***** about that too.
Would you genuinely prefer to stick to the status quo if that meant "parity"?
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Having an issue with the Gunslinger bundle because of the differing costume content is a completely different beast, and it's not something I'm going to argue about.
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I'm... unhappy with this. I know other people have brought up the "gender equality" card and already been beaten down for it because "everyone is happier this way."
I'm not. This right here basically means that females will get female-only parts, and unless there are "serious clipping issues," they'll also get all the male parts. |
Having said that, there are (at least) two different aspects to the "gender equality card" as you call it. One, is parity in terms of quantity. There, I must agree, male characters get the short end of the stick. The other aspect though, is parity in terms of quality or style. At the risk of reigniting the previous debate, I believe there is a trend that has increased with the current art team, where men get to look bad*** and women get to look like a piece of ***. I find this trend distasteful. I recognize that some will argue the trend does not exist, but their arguments have yet to sway my perception. I am therefore thrilled that we will be getting more options for our female characters that buck that trend.
How about from now on, you just don't make any female-only costume options anymore and just make everything unisex? It seems that's the only possible way to get gender equality in this crowd. |
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True. As long as I'm being thought a misogynist, I may as well tell the ladies to put on that aforementioned bartender apron and get back in the kitchen, right? -_-
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The bottom line is a very vocal group of people got what they wanted. Those of us who want some male only costume items, or want true equality, are in the minority now. We just happen to be in a minority that no one gives a crap about.
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I will also say I have no regard to a 'fair' level of exclusives between genders. If someone else can have something, that doesn't make what you have more/less valuable. What is far more important to me is that all applicable characters have access to items.
If they added a nun habit costume, that should be female exclusive. A (American) football costume? Male exclusive. A trenchcoat? either. A long coat? Either. The truth is that 'female' clothing often has items that only females wear, while 'male' clothing is actually far more often unisex as far as to what people wear.
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Absolutely, yes. It's not a question in my mind of "what's in the costume bundles," it's "HOW MUCH is in the costume bundles." For every ten pieces that females get, I believe that males should get at LEAST eight.
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I NEVER understood this idea that some posters have that the devs and artists have infinite time to work on anything they want. As if there are no deadlines.
Some folks need a reality check. Again.
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I'm cool with that, too, if that's how they want to play it. Don't have a use for that stuff personally, but at least it'd be fair.
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but that's just me.
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Excellent work, Dink. Phenomenal, even. 5-stars out of 4. Really REALLY good to hear.
But I do have a concern about your post:
By some small miracle I had some spare time in my schedule in this milestone. So rather than spend the day twiddling my thumbs,
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If you make something look easy here, its appreciated the first time and expected from then on. They'll demand more and more, slowly draining your soul and hardening your heart into a tiny black rock until you're transferred to marketing. Look at Black Pebble- unless you want that to be YOU someday, you need to change your ways ASAP. Manage expectations- make sure things don't look easy... or were at least the product of sufficient suffering that no sane person would ask more of you.
Maybe your first post could be more like,
A few weeks back, I was pulling a Friday late-nighter when I realized that I'd been locked in! I had no way out, no place to sleep, and no change for the vending machine... leaving me only the lunchroom's coffeemaker and some stale poptarts I found under Noble Savage's desk to sustain myself until Monday. Wired on java, riding a sugar high, and finshing early with the obligatory-booby-trapping-the-office-Macaulay-Culkin-style, I passed the time doing the only thing I could -hitting whatever 'stretch goals' I could find in the production queue, porting a number of costume pieces over to female. Although it took a day or two for the twitching to subside, I have to admit it was a rather productive weekend. Even moreso when the same thing happened AGAIN the very next week! (Many of my traps hadn't been found yet, so I had even more time to dedicate to development). And then... well, nevermind... ..All-in-all, before they gave me my own key, I managed to port over the following Costume Pieces to female: |
Oh, and thanks again.
Thank you very much Dink! I will now get the gunslinger bundle for my gun-slinging female defender! Well only if I still have points available for staff weapons whenever it shows up .
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