[TITLE EDITED]: Not Just for Pocket D Anymore!
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Agent White,
Posted on: 2012-02-10 20:36 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Going over the OP...
Uh, yeah. Sorry, this looks like it's been blown way out of all reasonable proportion, compared to what is actually stated in the dialogue.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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You always need to account for whether players would actually WANT to do this particular kind of evil deed. Remember - City of Villains is a game for the masses, meaning you have to develop villainous content for people who are not inherently evil, malicious or violent will still enjoy.|
Originally Posted by Vyver
An evil villain doing something evil? Stop the presses!
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I'm not saying villains should be less evil. What I AM saying is that villains should concentrate more on the glamour and high life of being evil and the rewards it brings, as opposed to the dirt and grime and the disgusting side of what it means to be one.
Really, I'm getting a little sick - literally sick - of villain story arcs that "reward" me with an act of depravity. I didn't become a villain for the killing and the torture and sliminess. I became one for the money, the fame and the girls, damn it!
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Um, can we get back to the Pocket D point?
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And now I am off to create yet another new alt.....
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Originally Posted by Scythus
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A beautiful young lady who got bitten by a radioactive steam train, and is now exactly as powerful as a locomotive?
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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
And now I am off to create yet another new alt.....
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Aegis Rose, Forcefield/Energy Defender - Freedom
"Bubble up for safety!"
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Oh god, I got that one too. It occurred to me, looking at Crosscut after misdirecting it, that the pink organic cape he wears doesn't match anything else on his costume... is that thing made of human skin?
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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
After reading this thread I came across a Valentine Tip where you can misdirect a Valentine to Crosscut. Setting him on a woman was genuinely a little disturbing.
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There is no 'arc'. It's just a repeatable mission. The contact is one of the 5 in First Ward that offers repeatable missions. He's the villain contact, and there's one for Loyalists, Resistance, and Heros, plus a 'catch all' that offers to everybody (Vickers).
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Maybe these options are the devs way of giving people what they kept saying they wanted. REALISM!
You want realism? Well, look here! This really happens! Mind you, I don't know the full arc, and wonder if it's being taken out of context, but I am suprised to see people clamour for realisism then balk at the idea of it. |
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Am I the only one who thinks that Crosscut should just be quietly 'disappeared' for the sake of all humanity?|
Originally Posted by FlashToo
Oh god, I got that one too. It occurred to me, looking at Crosscut after misdirecting it, that the pink organic cape he wears doesn't match anything else on his costume... is that thing made of human skin?
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as my granny would say "there's something not quite right about that boy."
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and as my grandmother would say "It takes all kinds to make a world"|
Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
Am I the only one who thinks that Crosscut should just be quietly 'disappeared' for the sake of all humanity?
as my granny would say "there's something not quite right about that boy." |
If it wasn't for ax crazy villains like Crosscut, we might as well rename City of Villains, "City of Morally Ambiguous Mercenaries Who Fight Other Villains (who are also morally ambiguous business men) For Profit."
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Not quite as catchy though...
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Originally Posted by Vyver
and as my grandmother would say "It takes all kinds to make a world"
If it wasn't for ax crazy villains like Crosscut, we might as well rename City of Villains, "City of Morally Ambiguous Mercenaries Who Fight Other Villains (who are also morally ambiguous business men) For Profit." |
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Originally Posted by Vyver
and as my grandmother would say "It takes all kinds to make a world"
If it wasn't for ax crazy villains like Crosscut, we might as well rename City of Villains, "City of Morally Ambiguous Mercenaries Who Fight Other Villains (who are also morally ambiguous business men) For Profit." |
Ah, yes, but I was looking at that from my villainous side. There are villains that make even other villans go... ew
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Jesus Christ! JESUS CHRIST!
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Originally Posted by Paula
Mr. Caldoun. A villainous "paper mission" contact in First Ward. He's evil, I get it. Go start a protection racket on a tough person running a tough place, fine. People trying to make some downtime in a rough piece of crater and you go in to extort, yeah, that's evil. Destroy their supplies and leaving them hungry in a war zone? That would take it "too far" enough for villainous purposes.
But then it crosses a line. Given the very real, very horrific kidnapping and forced sexual servitude trade going on in the world, especially in war zones, I have a very hard time accepting that a 'paper mission' is the right place for treating this topic so... so... |
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
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I think it's a reference to people in Pocket D who have bios involving stuff like that. Pretty common for certain kinds of roleplayers who want something in that vein for their dramatic/thing they get off of/sobstory backstory.
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Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
Um, can we get back to the Pocket D point?
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In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
So, yeah, if that is all there is about this mission, then it is nicely left to the person's imagination.
I find it interesting that, when given something that leaves room for personal imagination, people who would get offended about certain things tend to imagine those very things.
And I do not mean that as a dig against being offended over sex-trading. I find that to be perfectly understandable.
However, if a piece of art calls something a dance hall with entertainers and anyone wants to take that to mean anything beyond what those words mean, it is on the individual.
As far as I am concerned, it is always on the individual anyway. If the artists wish to make something reprehensible, they are free to and we are free to take a hike and/or voice our opinions.
Regardless, this doesn't seem to be one of those cases, to me.
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Originally Posted by Vyver
and as my grandmother would say "It takes all kinds to make a world"
If it wasn't for ax crazy villains like Crosscut, we might as well rename City of Villains, "City of Morally Ambiguous Mercenaries Who Fight Other Villains (who are also morally ambiguous business men) For Profit." |
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@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
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Ah, good. I was starting to think that I might have missed the fact that DJ Zero had another little lounge set aside that just might push the boundaries of the PG-13-ness of the whole thing. |
Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
I think it's a reference to people in Pocket D who have bios involving stuff like that. Pretty common for certain kinds of roleplayers who want something in that vein for their dramatic/thing they get off of/sobstory backstory.
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It's good to know I'm not quite that blind yet.
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Start a racketeering ring on the Dregs
Objectives
Talk to Duchess; 2 supplies to smash up; 3 of the Duchess' dancers to rough up
Dancer <Captive>
(shabby-clothed civilian woman surrounded by toughies with guns)
Dancer: Uff!
Dancer: What's going on?
Dancer: Are you here to save me?
Dancer: Please!
Dancer: Stop!
Dancer: Don't kill me!
Dancer: No! Please!
Dancer: Uh...
Sounds like a mission for my Chappelle Show inspired "Im Rick James" toon.
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It's PG-16 now - when CoH and CoV merged, the higher rating for CoV had to be used.
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Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
might push the boundaries of the PG-13-ness of the whole thing.
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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I'm with you on this Tech. The OP's complaint reminds me of this guys complaint about how the Science Booster encourages cross dressing in real life. |
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Going over the OP...
Uh, yeah. Sorry, this looks like it's been blown way out of all reasonable proportion, compared to what is actually stated in the dialogue. |
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...14&postcount=1
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Originally Posted by McNum
A beautiful young lady who got bitten by a radioactive steam train, and is now exactly as powerful as a locomotive?
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Ya know I have enough weird ideas for characters. I don't need you throwing fuel on the fire. Thanks a lot.
<goes off to the character creator grumbling>
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It's PG-16 now - when CoH and CoV merged, the higher rating for CoV had to be used.
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Either way...
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Or the one about the Destroyer females wearing jackets over bare skin that could fall open in the player's mind, even if the actual models were unmoving |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I'm with you on this Tech. The OP's complaint reminds me of this guys complaint about how the Science Booster encourages cross dressing in real life.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...14&postcount=1 |
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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I'm pretty sure it is.
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Originally Posted by FlashToo
Oh god, I got that one too. It occurred to me, looking at Crosscut after misdirecting it, that the pink organic cape he wears doesn't match anything else on his costume... is that thing made of human skin?
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Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
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You shouldn't have been a villain, you should have been a baseball player. If playing a bad guy in a video game makes you queasy you should stop playing bad characters and maybe watch some My Little Pony.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You always need to account for whether players would actually WANT to do this particular kind of evil deed. Remember - City of Villains is a game for the masses, meaning you have to develop villainous content for people who are not inherently evil, malicious or violent will still enjoy.
I'm not saying villains should be less evil. What I AM saying is that villains should concentrate more on the glamour and high life of being evil and the rewards it brings, as opposed to the dirt and grime and the disgusting side of what it means to be one. Really, I'm getting a little sick - literally sick - of villain story arcs that "reward" me with an act of depravity. I didn't become a villain for the killing and the torture and sliminess. I became one for the money, the fame and the girls, damn it! |
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I'm not saying villains should be less evil. What I AM saying is that villains should concentrate more on the glamour and high life of being evil and the rewards it brings, as opposed to the dirt and grime and the disgusting side of what it means to be one.
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I want to do the same thing we do every night - try to take over the world
not do low reward but grisly crimes
Maybe these options are the devs way of giving people what they kept saying they wanted. REALISM!
You want realism? Well, look here! This really happens!
Mind you, I don't know the full arc, and wonder if it's being taken out of context, but I am suprised to see people clamour for realisism then balk at the idea of it.
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