Rumors about the ressurection of Marcus Cole.


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hatred for any reason is simply wrong which is why nothing any of them says can or will make a dent in my views.
Amusing point: nobody here has said they hate you. You're the only person spreading that around, here.

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I dont call them "My Characters" They are simply character roles I find appealing to RP. However I can try to undertand that character, get inside thier fictional head so to speak, and flesh it out.
Why? As far as I can tell it is because you are too lazy to create your own character, so borrowing someone else's and "making it [your] own" is the easy way out.

I'd respect you if you'd shown that you can create a character that is uniquely yours that doesn't take some important place in CoX canon. As it is, while I respect your right to play pretty much how you want to play, I have very little respect for you as a roleplayer, because you have shown over and over again in this thread that you refuse to a) accept that the views of others may be valid, and b) even take the time to create your own characters without somehow twisting CoH lore around so that they are vastly more important to the world than they have any right to be as a balanced and well-crafted character.

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My entire OP was not ever about a " This is how it happens or should happen" debate it was just my own offering in the current countless posts and threads about states death and why or how could he be brought back. Personally I am glad the last remnants of jack are being expunged from the game, and I truly hope someday all the dev based icons will be removed leaving the world more open to new heroes every day.
Then you really should have said it was a hypothetical take on things, rather than outright stating it as Virtue RP.

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The fact is I think people are truly just jealous because due to my use of lore what I described could easily be something that could happen and has nothing to do with me at all. Each character i suggested being there existed in lore before I made a few my own to enjoy RPing. That is the point of being lore based so when new lore is added you already fit with it quite well. clearly I do a good job of picking my own roles and how I play them because as of yet not one bit of new content was ever added I couldnt easily spin to fit with my portrayel. CoV itself proved that to me as several of its SFs play out like they where custom made AE arcs for a character like T'Keron Valmaz.
Nobody here is jealous of you. Many here feel sorry for you, or at worst a sense of indignation that you believe that you have the right to roleplay dev created characters and expect others to treat them as canon.

I've not once had any problem fitting my own personal creation into the ongoing stories, either. Which tells me that I create better characters than you.

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The end battle in the VSF with the Beast where I can start by acting all aloof and uncaring, right up until Infernal is on the ropes, then I costume change to my human form, and rush in yelling " Leave K'Varr be vile demon! You wish to face a Binder of Beasts, then face the one who has bound your lord to his own flesh!" and then revel in a great one on one with that big ugly while the rest of the group usually stand around going wtf is happening here and is he really soloing that big monster.
What you choose to do in IC missions is your business and is no concern of mine.

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If you do have to constantly adjust and update your lore based character then you likely didnt do strong enough research in the first place to properly take on the role.
As I said, I've never had to do this. Not once. With my own characters that fit in with CoX lore perfectly fine.


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Jealous? Really??


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If you do have to constantly adjust and update your lore based character then you likely didnt do strong enough research in the first place to properly take on the role.
The lore of the game is subject to change, intentional retcon or simply an accident on the part of a writer, and that includes that you have taken for yourself. What happens when the writers flesh out Circle of Thorn lore and completely and utterly invalidate almost everything you have ever done about your character?

Maybe you'll accuse the mission writer of being jealous of your character to the extent they try to pull the rug out from under you. That's the way delusions usually justify themselves to their afflicted. Never their fault, always someone else. 'Haters' and 'WoWtards' and whatever else can be painted as the problem.

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Personally I am glad the last remnants of jack are being expunged from the game, and I truly hope someday all the dev based icons will be removed leaving the world more open to new heroes every day.
Never going to happen. For one they need their own characters (they being Paragon Studios) for marketing at the very least, not to mention as springboards for the stories and setting fluff in the game.


 

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QR: I found it easier to read if i placed my mind into an alternate dimension and started replacing characters with T-Rex's, Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster and Cthulhu


 

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I've been in ERPs that involved more talent then this.


 

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I've been in ERPs that involved more talent then this.
Oh god .. my keyboard ..


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Fun fact:

Demetrios, who we see to have bad grammar and spelling, was making fun of someone who has comma placement troubles.

Mind you, the person who he was making fun of? Not exactly the best at grammar or spelling either, but I suspect said person isn't an English-first person. I may be wrong.


 

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Oh god .. my keyboard ..
This.

Thank you, Lisar. You just made the thread.


 

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I've been in ERPs that involved more talent then this.
This sums it up perfectly.

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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Demetrios Vasilikos View Post
hatred for any reason is simply wrong which is why nothing any of them says can or will make a dent in my views.

I dont call them "My Characters" They are simply character roles I find appealing to RP. However I can try to undertand that character, get inside thier fictional head so to speak, and flesh it out.

My entire OP was not ever about a " This is how it happens or should happen" debate it was just my own offering in the current countless posts and threads about states death and why or how could he be brought back. Personally I am glad the last remnants of jack are being expunged from the game, and I truly hope someday all the dev based icons will be removed leaving the world more open to new heroes every day.

The fact is I think people are truly just jealous because due to my use of lore what I described could easily be something that could happen and has nothing to do with me at all. Each character i suggested being there existed in lore before I made a few my own to enjoy RPing. That is the point of being lore based so when new lore is added you already fit with it quite well. clearly I do a good job of picking my own roles and how I play them because as of yet not one bit of new content was ever added I couldnt easily spin to fit with my portrayel. CoV itself proved that to me as several of its SFs play out like they where custom made AE arcs for a character like T'Keron Valmaz.

The end battle in the VSF with the Beast where I can start by acting all aloof and uncaring, right up until Infernal is on the ropes, then I costume change to my human form, and rush in yelling " Leave K'Varr be vile demon! You wish to face a Binder of Beasts, then face the one who has bound your lord to his own flesh!" and then revel in a great one on one with that big ugly while the rest of the group usually stand around going wtf is happening here and is he really soloing that big monster.

If you do have to constantly adjust and update your lore based character then you likely didnt do strong enough research in the first place to properly take on the role.


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Demetrios. Let me try a nicer approach.

No one in their right mind is jealous of your fan canon. Not a SINGLE person should ever be jealous of your fan canon.

You are using lore which does not belong to you (The game's already pre-set lore) and basically bashing it with your own head.

If this was kept off the forums, better written, or both? This sort of flack would be non-existant at best. At worst? Some people might flak you if they run into you in-game.


 

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Okay, in all seriousness, I think what most people are trying to get at is that there is a general objection to the idea of you attempting to dictate the game world and it's established lore.

You liken your portrayal of established NPCs to an actor playing a part in a Shakespearean play, and while I'm glad you have that kind of confidence in yourself, it brings me to ask: Have you ever actually been in a play? Even in the tightest budget am dram production there are auditions. The director dictates the direction the character is taken, and while an actor will inevitably bring their own spin on a character, they must always do so with the director's blessing.

As for jealousy over the fact that your characters belong to someone else? Um...no. Just no. Definitely no. I, and (I'm sure) everyone who objects to your statements, have several original characters that I came up with and worked into the CoX world. They have been there at major events, they have taken part in invasions of various descriptions, and they all have their own lives and problems to deal with.

I can confidently say that I am at no point envious of what I consider to be a misguided attempt to hijack the lore of CoX.

Of course, I'm sure you will find reasons to disagree with me and call me a WoWtard or whatever, but before you do; did you really expect any other sort of response when you made that first post telling everyone to conform to your view of the world?


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It all lies within the fact that we fit our characters to the lore.

Not the lore to us.

I'll now go to OpenOffice and write a entire 3+ paragraph reply that will blow brains.

/tophatfancybow


 

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... while the rest of the group usually stand around going wtf is happening here and is he really soloing that big monster.
Bold: probably true.
Underlined: almost guaranteed not, as it's not hard to solo an AV, especially these days.


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Dear Demetrios.

As the canonical ******* of the server that you are trying to pull these shenanigans off (to the point where I've had signature characters look at Flea along the lines of 'Whiskey Foxtrot Tango, did he just say that?') I would like to politely inform your Lord of Demons ( 1 of about about 10,000 going by Pocket D averages these days) that I am disinclined to acquiesce to his request and to jolly well bugger off before I stuff his infernal/abyssal/tartian/netherworld-ial/etc head up his back side and solve this problem for us all.

Signed,
Flea.


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The fact is I think people are truly just jealous because due to my use of lore what I described could easily be something that could happen and has nothing to do with me at all.
Bwuh!?!

Wait, wait... Run that by me again..

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The fact is I think people are truly just jealous
Did... Did you just say that we're JEALOUS!?!?

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people are truly just jealous
OMG.. You DID! You... You actually think we're.. we're JEALOUS!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! !

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHEHEHE HEAHAHA*BOOM*


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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! !

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHEHEHE HEAHAHA*BOOM*
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Well at least something good came of all this.
Someone get a mop


 

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Well at least something good came of all this.
Someone get a mop
Don't touch the kidneys! Them's mine!


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Lynn held the warm styrofoam cup of hot chocloate in both hands. The morning was chilly here on Talos, typical for this time of year. She looked forward to the coming spring's warmer temperatures, wondering idly if her Kheldian friends were bothered at all by the temperatures.

She'd finally come to terms with the fact that she wasn't a Peacebringer, uniquely Earth-born. And come to realize it didn't lessen her gifts. As the heroine Linnurata, she'd been adopted by Voidbane's group, making friends with both Peacebringers and Warshades as they trained her and eased her into realizing the truth. She wasn't sure whose gratitude was greater, hers or her parents.

Of course, her birthday present was her application to host a Kheldian. She still chuckled at getting that from her folks.

Lynn's reverie was interrupted by the sound of a strident voice from down the street. Looking up from her cocoa, she saw a small crowd watching a rather ragged old man waving his arms and going on quite excitedly about something. She didn't know if it was trouble or not, so she drifted closer.

He was going on about being a demon, Exxon Valdez or some such, who drove a Bentley. At least that's what she thought she heard. She shook her head sadly and gauged the mood of the small crowd. She saw nothing but a mix of amusement and pity on most of the faces.

Then he started ranting about having resurrected Statesman.

She could feel the crowd's mood change. That was one loss the city had not gotten over just yet, and this sort of ranting could become dangerous for the old man. Stepping back, she pulled out her cell phone.

"Paragon psychiatric, Debbie speaking, how may I help you?"

She gave a quick rundown of the situation to the nurse on duty, who promised to send help. That taken care of, she drifted back to the small crowd. She picked out the people who were getting most upset and went to them, convincing them with gentle word to go about their business and not let the crazy man upset them.

Minutes later, she was waving goodbye to the ambulance taking the old man away. She hoped he'd get the help he needed. And a bath, while he was at it.
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Crappy day at work.

This has really tickled my fancy, amused to the point where I could pop.

What a vainglorious verbose way to commit forum and game suicide, I would applaud but I am luaghing too hard.


Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.

 

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CB, we haven't agreed on much over the years, but in this, I am merrily holding your coat.


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Its like some *self censored* decided to mix deviant art with a thesarus.

I get that sometimes it is nice to play pretend, when I was eight I used to play Power Rangers with my brothers. When. I. Was. Eight....


Seriously, once you progress to big boy school your pretendy fun times games, should at least invovle your own creations.


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Hi everyone!

There isn't much to add to this thread that hasn't already been said, so I'm just announcing that I have added "Be officially recognized as Captain Collateral Damage" to my bucket list.


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Hi there Demetrios, I’m Omy (Who members of the Union RP community might recognise as ‘Oh god, it’s the obsessive lore nerd’), and I’d like to talk to you about a few issues that have come up here.

To start, well there’s a lot to go through so we’ll start somewhere important, I’ve glanced through the lore references you’ve made here and in other threads and well, it might hurt to hear this my friend, but you’re wrong.

Yep, in almost every single reference you’ve made I’ve found crucial errors in what you claim is correct vs what is actually correct, this isn’t exactly helping your case is it? Campaigning so hard for ‘Lore RP’ (Which I’ll address later) while showing critical lack of lore knowledge yourself, ouch.

Next up would be the fact that you seem to dismiss anyone and everyone who holds a counter view to your own as just people who hate and/or are jealous of you, this is a bit more of a problem and is why I’m not really expecting a rational response but what the hey I’m four paragraphs in now. Anyway, why are you doing this, can’t people have valid views of their own? I mean as I’ve already pointed out you’re not as accurate on the lore as you claim, so if you can be wrong there, maybe you should listen to some other peoples views on other things too?

Now to the meaty part, ‘Lore RP’, it’s not a thing, sorry. No really, it’s not a thing, I don’t know where you’ve gotten the idea from, but RP in MMOs comes in two forms, those who acknowledge the world they’re in and build characters to fit, and those who just RP whatever the hell they like and do whatever they want, naturally these two kinds of people don’t get on.

Perhaps by ‘Lore RP’ you mean the playing of characters from the game lore? This is a big no no! As anyone who knows me will tell you, I frown enough at even having canon characters cameo in stories, actually playing out one of the characters like that? Well, that’s just not right, they’re not your characters, you don’t accurately know every last piece of info about them, their future roles or plot significance and so on, not to mention you’ve got the factor of interpretation to take into account, that can change a character quite dramatically!

To delve deeper into it, would you think it’s okay to RP another person’s character without their consent? It’s just bad form full stop. What’s more you seem to be missing the point, if you’re ever at say a PnP game, you’ll roll up your own unique character and have fun with them, yes you fit them into the background of the world they’re in, but you don’t commandeer parts of that world (Unless the point of the game is reshaping the world) for no reason other then it makes you feel more important, heck most Rpers don’t tend to like adventure supplements that come with pre-genned characters (With notable exceptions but they’re another kettle of fish entirely) at all, so yea, point is missed there.

Anyway, I’m rambling now, TL, DR version:

You’re not exactly doing it right.


 

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Obviously you havent followed my various threads on the topic of lore based RP.

yes I do know your dibs was largely a mocking joke, but actually is a valid question when discussing what is and isnt within the rules.
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*snip*
I might just call that a head shot from 4000 paces... so impressive it blew my mind.