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Posted on: 2012-01-25 18:27 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Originally Posted by Dark One
I admit it. I squeed when Michonne was on screen.
And Rick grew a pair. Finally. Though, I wanted him to say to them, "What would you have done if I had told you? Huh?". Him telling them that would've killed the last bit of hope that they had. I don't fault him in the slightest. And Lori. Acting all high and mighty after finding out he killed Shane. He did reload a couple times, but still. Federal law limits the amount of shots that can be in a pump-action. Think they're made to only hold like 5 in the reservoir and 1 in the chamber. Plus, if you get fire shooting back out of the ejector, you got serious problems with your gun. |
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Oh and folks.....Rick's wifes name is Lori.... for the life of me I don't understand where everyone is getting all these different names for her from.....
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Whatever. It's not like we don't know who is being talked about. Lori, Laurie, Lauri, etc. It doesn't make that big of a difference. Could just call her Moron #1 and the point would still get across. 
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Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
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Oh and folks.....Rick's wifes name is Lori.... for the life of me I don't understand where everyone is getting all these different names for her from..... |
It's spelled Larry.
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
By the way, if a zombie infestation ever breaks out, I want Herschel's gun. What was that, 50 shots from a shotgun? Yes, please.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
He did reload a couple times, but still. Federal law limits the amount of shots that can be in a pump-action. Think they're made to only hold like 5 in the reservoir and 1 in the chamber. Plus, if you get fire shooting back out of the ejector, you got serious problems with your gun.
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Originally Posted by Mandu
I did admire the gunplay in this episode though. Everybody made the experts from top shot look like rank amateurs.
Firing rapid fire in darkness? Every shot a headshot. Firing from a fast moving bouncing vehicle? Every shot a headshot. Firing backwards while running at a sprint? Every... well, you get the point. |
Yes at least this show has tried to show a few people (like Hershel and Andrea) dealing with checking/reloading their guns, but most shows don't even bother to do that much. They'll just let people shoot 1000 rounds or more without even pretending to reload. At this point it now almost shocks me when a show actually -tries- to get it right like Hell on Wheels did recently.
I won't even bother to worry about their unearthly accuracy. Again like the ammo thing most shows just let any main character basically never miss when the story needs them to kill everything.
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Well if you've been following my ongoing theory that this show has been dissecting the nature of leadership between Rick and Shane in a similar way the classic Star Trek epsiode The Enemy Within did then you can better understand what's happened here.|
Originally Posted by Mandu
I agree that he's right, you can't have a democracy in that situation. But the way he was speaking wasn't even slightly like Rick normally does. It was a speech and attitude straight out of Shane. Rick gets intense, he doesn't get all frothy like that.
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Based on that working theory Rick has been demonstrating the "thoughtful, big picture" thinking a leader should have while Shane has represented the "gritty, implusively uncompromising" form of leadership. Basically the two of them each brought different leadership elements to the table but they were fighting each other because each of those forms of leadership tend to oppose/contradict each other. The moment Rick killed Shane the two competing "halves" of leadership were finally merged into Rick. I suspect Rick will now be more "Shane-like" able to do the brutal things that need to be done but will be tempered by his original innate sense of control and morality. The two forms of leadership are now in the one man better able to face the post-ZA world.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
I admit it. I squeed when Michonne was on screen.
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I did it again when they showed the Prison in the distance in the last few seconds of the episode.
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Just announced on Talking dead, the actress to play Michonne will be Danai Gurira.
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It seemed that Lori got upset when Rick told her Carl was the one who put down Zombie-Shane, not the killing of Shane.
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She started to pull away as Rick explained everything but then she lost it when Rick mentioned Carl playing his part in finishing off Shame.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
It seemed that Lori got upset when Rick told her Carl was the one who put down Zombie-Shane, not the killing of Shane.
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Eventually Lori needs to get over this, though. I mean, how long did she expect Carl to stay innocent in this? Was she going to keep him a kid forever? There are walking-freaking-undead! |
Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
She started to pull away as Rick explained everything but then she lost it when Rick mentioned Carl playing his part in finishing off Shame.
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Carl has been shot, seen his best friend turned into a zombie and then killed by his dad, seen one of his two dads get back up after being killed, and who knows what else before Rick linked up with the group. He's not a kid anymore, Lori! Stop pretending he is.
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I'm not sure if this was a Freudian Slip or if you were intentionally making a play off his name but it was funny either way. |
Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
She started to pull away as Rick explained everything but then she lost it when Rick mentioned Carl playing his part in finishing off Shame.
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Eventually Lori needs to get over this, though. I mean, how long did she expect Carl to stay innocent in this? Was she going to keep him a kid forever? There are walking-freaking-undead!
Carl has been shot, seen his best friend turned into a zombie and then killed by his dad, seen one of his two dads get back up after being killed, and who knows what else before Rick linked up with the group. He's not a kid anymore, Lori! Stop pretending he is. |
I realize as a mother she's worried about Carl and she probably has a right to be shocked by some things like learning that Carl put zombie-Shane down. But seriously she does need to get over this idea that he's -just- a little kid or that he can still somehow be kept "innocent" in this post-ZA world. Her inability to accept that Carl seems to be reasonably mature enough to handle most of what's going on has gotten incredible old and almost borderline insane at this point. I'm not suggesting that Carl should be considered a "man" now, but he's certainly not a baby anymore either.
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It doesn't matter how her name is spelled, she's still a bad wife and a horrible mother...
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Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
Michonne FTW!
Oh and folks.....Rick's wifes name is Lori.... for the life of me I don't understand where everyone is getting all these different names for her from..... |
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Y: The Last Man had a similar idea, but it was with astronauts. They eventually had to come back down and see how they would react to the disease. They weren't the main characters; just a subplot.|
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
The book World War Z had a Chinese nuclear sub crew that survived after being out of touch with China for a while, and basically went rogue. They found an island where people with boats were gathering and trading supplies, and basically powered everyone else with their nuclear reactor in exchange for food and other goods. Was a pretty interesting take on who would survive some of these encounters.
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Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
Just announced on Talking dead, the actress to play Michonne will be Danai Gurira.
Is it October yet?! |
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Well IIRC Lori was kind of "one-dimensionally annoying" in the comic book as well.
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I find your lack of signature disturbing.
See, I don't remember disliking the comic book version of Lorainne at all. Maybe it was because Shane died so early in the comic book, so there wasn't that opportunity for her to be all flippy-floppy like she is on the show. TV show Lori is just awful. You don't want Carl going out and killing zombified versions of your ex-lovers, how about you keep a %$@#ing eye on him once in a while?
Loved seeing Michonne - I didn't expect her to show up until around the middle of next season. It's nice that her an Andrea will get a little one-on-one time, but I have no idea how they're ever going to hook up with the rest of the group. Running through the woods, Andrea probably made it 3-5 miles from the farm, but the group in the vehicles were driving for over an hour before they ran out of gas, so they could conceivably be anywhere from 30-60 miles away.
Though it's hard to tell because it took them until dawn to find each other on the highway, so once again, either the Earth in this universe rotates MUCH faster, or maybe their definition of an hour is far different from ours. Oh well, I guess that nit has been picked to death. It's going to be a long 7 months to wait for the show to return.
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Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
Just announced on Talking dead, the actress to play Michonne will be Danai Gurira.
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Originally Posted by Frost Warden
She seems to fit Michonne's physical type; hopefully she can bring across Michonne's personality as well.
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She might have been OK for the part but I'm sure Danai Gurira will do well with it.
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
, either the Earth in this universe rotates MUCH faster, or maybe their definition of an hour is far different from ours.
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| She started to pull away as Rick explained everything but then she lost it when Rick mentioned Carl playing his part in finishing off Shame. |
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I'm not sure if this was a Freudian Slip or if you were intentionally making a play off his name but it was funny either way.
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I'm willing to accept the idea that the TV version of Lori was portrayed a little more "erratically" since Shane played a more significant role on the TV show.|
Originally Posted by mousedroid
See, I don't remember disliking the comic book version of Lorainne at all.
Maybe it was because Shane died so early in the comic book, so there wasn't that opportunity for her to be all flippy-floppy like she is on the show. TV show Lori is just awful. You don't want Carl going out and killing zombified versions of your ex-lovers, how about you keep a %$@#ing eye on him once in a while? |
Still she was somewhat annoying in the comic book because she suffered from the same "queen bee" complex that Andrea ripped her on a few TV episodes ago. Her narrowly-defined purpose in the comic was much the same as the TV show - neurotically worry when Rick left the group, neurotically worry when Carl was in any kind of danger and organize the rest of the women during any "domestic duty" details.
Basically apart from the increased interaction with Shane I think TV Lori has been one of the most direct translations from the comic book of any of the characters we've seen.
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
Loved seeing Michonne - I didn't expect her to show up until around the middle of next season. It's nice that her an Andrea will get a little one-on-one time, but I have no idea how they're ever going to hook up with the rest of the group. Running through the woods, Andrea probably made it 3-5 miles from the farm, but the group in the vehicles were driving for over an hour before they ran out of gas, so they could conceivably be anywhere from 30-60 miles away.
Though it's hard to tell because it took them until dawn to find each other on the highway, so once again, either the Earth in this universe rotates MUCH faster, or maybe their definition of an hour is far different from ours. Oh well, I guess that nit has been picked to death. It's going to be a long 7 months to wait for the show to return. |
Actually it'll be interesting to see Andrea and Michonne together like that because I can foresee Michonne becoming a sort of "jedi master" to Andrea to finish her off her jedi training. We've already seen how Andrea has become more kick-butt as the TV show has progressed so it'd be the perfect pairing for Andrea to learn more "badassery" from Michonne.
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So speaking of last night's The Talking Dead Kirkman dropped a very big hint that Merle will be making a reappearance in Season 3. Wouldn't it be interesting if he's going to be involved in the Governor's group or, to go to the extreme, wouldn't it be cool if he turns out to be the TV show's version of the Governor himself!
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Originally Posted by Lothic
So speaking of last night's The Talking Dead Kirkman dropped a very big hint that Merle will be making a reappearance in Season 3. Wouldn't it be interesting if he's going to be involved in the Governor's group or, to go to the extreme, wouldn't it be cool if he turns out to be the TV show's version of the Governor himself!
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I have expected to see him in and around the Governor's crew, however.
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I think it was more that she just wants to be with the "Top Dog", this way she feels important and "safe". It seems as if she doesn't care about Rick at all, just being the main squeeze of the "leader" so she can have some authority. She purposely pitted the two of them against each other and then got upset when Rick told her he killed him.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I'm not sure if this was a Freudian Slip or if you were intentionally making a play off his name but it was funny either way.
Well IIRC Lori was kind of "one-dimensionally annoying" in the comic book as well. I realize as a mother she's worried about Carl and she probably has a right to be shocked by some things like learning that Carl put zombie-Shane down. But seriously she does need to get over this idea that he's -just- a little kid or that he can still somehow be kept "innocent" in this post-ZA world. Her inability to accept that Carl seems to be reasonably mature enough to handle most of what's going on has gotten incredible old and almost borderline insane at this point. I'm not suggesting that Carl should be considered a "man" now, but he's certainly not a baby anymore either. |
I'm glad Andrea and Darryl put her in her place this season. She had the nerve to tell Andrea she should be in the house cooking with the other women but then asked her not to leave to go after Rick because they would need her to protect them... so annoying.
Also finally T-Dog gets more than one line and the dumbest idea comes out of his mouth... go east
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Originally Posted by Chyll
Given the already announced casting of the Governor, that last bit is right out the window.
I have expected to see him in and around the Governor's crew, however. |
Still I agree that it seems likely that Merle will be involved in the Governor's crew in some form or fashion.
He'd be a perfect fit to fall into that group.
I guess that leaves one vaguely lingering question: Was Randall's group related to the Governor or was that a completely separate group? I suppose the writers could have that go either way depending on if it's important or not.
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It seems weird that they are exploring this "caveman" idea that the women just want to have their man become the Alpha Male of the group. We've been seeing this with Lori for awhile but we also saw this with Carol again last night where she told Daryl he should be leading the group and that he shouldn't just be Rick's "henchman".|
Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack
I think it was more that she just wants to be with the "Top Dog", this way she feels important and "safe". It seems as if she doesn't care about Rick at all, just being the main squeeze of the "leader" so she can have some authority. She purposely pitted the two of them against each other and then got upset when Rick told her he killed him.
I'm glad Andrea and Darryl put her in her place this season. She had the nerve to tell Andrea she should be in the house cooking with the other women but then asked her not to leave to go after Rick because they would need her to protect them... so annoying. |
I suppose we're seeing this happen because this group is becoming more and more tribal and primitive after the collapse of the world. It's like they've become a pack of apes dealing with each other in very primitive social terms. I guess this is what happens when the group loses its democratic values and becomes a "Rictatorship".
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Also finally T-Dog gets more than one line and the dumbest idea comes out of his mouth... go east
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I agree that he's right, you can't have a democracy in that situation. But the way he was speaking wasn't even slightly like Rick normally does. It was a speech and attitude straight out of Shane. Rick gets intense, he doesn't get all frothy like that.
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