Fusionette vs Flambeaux
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Posted on: 2012-01-24 11:02 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I'll put 1,000,000 inf on Fusionette right now.
Although she's a bit of a ditz, and a bit prone to getting captured, once you get her free, she's a more than worthy ally.
She has the bonus of knockback. Flambeaux cant shoot if she can't stand (a way I've beaten her more than once.) She also has the bonus of mobility (Has anyone seem Flambeaux fly? I don't think I have.)
I'm discounting allies since we know Flambeaux hangs out with Freaks but, if we did allow them in Fusionette would have another edge. Lets just look at her friends list shall we?
Faultline (Jim Temblor, stone tank)
Penny Yin (most powerful psychic in the game universe and the person the Clockwork King has a crush on)
Doc Delilah (SS/Inv tank)
We could also make allowances for her Vanguard membership so......
Again, 1,000,000 on Fusionette. Any takers?
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Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
Lets just look at [Fusionette's] friends list shall we?
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We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
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My bet is on Fusionette.
Fusionette has more of a "can-do" attitude even when she can't really, so I expect that she'd put more gusto into the fight.
While I haven't done many tips to meet Flambeaux, I've picked up the impression that she has a defeatist attitude and thus I expect her to lack follow through.
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Originally Posted by SerialBeggar
While I haven't done many tips to meet Flambeaux, I've picked up the impression that she has a defeatist attitude and thus I expect her to lack follow through.
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She's not really a defeatist. But she's only trying to win because it'll make her look better.
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What's a little depressing is that if suddenly a large swath of the population of random schmoes got superpowers like apparently they have in Paragon City, a vast majority of them would probably be just like Flambeaux.
I'll cast my lot with Fusionette any day, it's not even close.
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I think Fusionette is a little more competent in an actual fight, but as a character, as a ditzy, inept heroine turned ditzy, inept villain who turns to villainy for ditzy and inept reasons, I find Flambeaux more entertaining
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Given the number of times she's fought a group to a knockback standstill while I wobbled around stunned for no good reason, I'm not even sure her inability to succeed has much to do with her ability instead of just a mean streak in the writers. Flammy can't even remain on her feet with 3 guys helping her while I solo the other half of the evil tutorial crew.
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Originally Posted by SerialBeggar
My bet is on Fusionette.
Fusionette has more of a "can-do" attitude even when she can't really, so I expect that she'd put more gusto into the fight. |
Honestly this is unfair, but the fact that people treat it as fair is kinda funny...
Fusionette is atomic powered, flying, veteran at this point... She was a new hero back in Faultline. That was six years ago. She's now a veteran in vanguard, which she joined a year later. So she's been fighting the Rikti at lvl50 for 5 years now.
Flambaeux on the other hand is a new hero that was just introduced to us earlier this year and at best is a loner that does high level street crime...
I'd say that Fusionette is over confident and often is the cause of her problems... That is extremely dangerous, especially with her being in Vanguard.
While Flambaeux in my opinion is likely someone with low self-esteem and is lonely. Her "positive" and "ditzy" attitude is likely a false personality that she puts on because Heroes are like that and also that is what a lot of people do to try to get people to like them. The fact that there are so many people that don't like her, apparently, only makes it worse and I'd predict that she's depressed in reality because what ca she do if she is trying so hard to be someone they like and it's not working...
I'd like to see a team up with the two of them because they'd likely work together really well... It would also be interesting if Flambaeux was revealed to look up to Fusionette, Fusionette becomes a villain and then it pulls Flambaeux up through her reacting to her hero falling like that... or you can have Flambaeux become a villain because of how much people don't like her taking the attitude "if my effort isn't appreciated I might as well do the opposite"
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Originally Posted by Durakken
Fusionette becomes a villain
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Whom ever wins... the surrounding 10 square miles of the city would lose.
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Not nitpicking, serious question: Are you saying Faultline revamp was 6 years ago? Is that true? It feels like 3ish.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
Honestly this is unfair, but the fact that people treat it as fair is kinda funny...
Fusionette is atomic powered, flying, veteran at this point... She was a new hero back in Faultline. That was six years ago. She's now a veteran in vanguard, which she joined a year later. So she's been fighting the Rikti at lvl50 for 5 years now. |
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Issue 8 hit live servers on Nov 28, 2006. Technically that's closer to five years, but Durakken is closer.
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Originally Posted by shaggy5
Not nitpicking, serious question: Are you saying Faultline revamp was 6 years ago? Is that true? It feels like 3ish.
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Originally Posted by Chris_Zuercher
Issue 8 hit live servers on Nov 28, 2006. Technically that's closer to five years, but Durakken is closer.
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As a character, I prefer Flambeaux for being entertaining. Now who'd win in a fight? Fusionette.
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Fusionette all the way.
Why? Because she's likeable. Yes, she's a klutz a bit of a ditz but she holds her own, kicks the Rikti around a fair bit and actually manages to be annoying and charming at the same time. That's a tough balancing act so my hat off to the writers.
Bimbeaux is just flat out annoying. The only time she makes me smile is when I'm pasting her to the floor in tip missions.
EDIT: And Faultline is over five years old!? Jeez, now I do feel like I've been playing for a long time!
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Originally Posted by shaggy5
Thanks and MAAAAAN, time flies. I still think of new Faultline as brand new (of course, to be honest, I still think of redside and new and shiny...)
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Hmmm. If Fusionette has been fighting Rikti exclusively for all this time, perhaps she's now overly specialized? Whereas Flambeaux has had to deal with a wide assortment of heroes. Given time, if she survives |
Originally Posted by Durakken
Fusionette is atomic powered, flying, veteran at this point... She was a new hero back in Faultline. That was six years ago. She's now a veteran in vanguard, which she joined a year later. So she's been fighting the Rikti at lvl50 for 5 years now.
Flambaeux on the other hand is a new hero that was just introduced to us earlier this year and at best is a loner that does high level street crime... |
, she could conceivably develop to be a better fighter.
Teams are the number one killer of soloists.
In a fight, 'nette would kick the teeth out of Flambeaux. Especially if Flambeaux is preventing her from getting donuts.
Best character? Fusionette, of course! Not only she has the "can do" attitude, she's also a *fun* character with great writing ("over there is my BOYFRIEND, the one who controls EARTHQUAKES") and who doesn't even let the 4th wall stand in the way ("don't look at me that way, we HAD to be in this mission!" "Oops, mistell").
She's an overcaffeinated ball of charm and possibly my favorite character in the whole damn game. Those who know what character is in my current avatar would probably find a few parallels between the two.
More Fusionette, please!
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Flambeaux is your opponent if you're a villain the Atlas Park Mayhem; she's been in the game since City of Villains released, though like the rest of the Rogue's Gallery she never got more than one line until Going Rogue.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
Honestly this is unfair, but the fact that people treat it as fair is kinda funny...
Fusionette is atomic powered, flying, veteran at this point... She was a new hero back in Faultline. That was six years ago. She's now a veteran in vanguard, which she joined a year later. So she's been fighting the Rikti at lvl50 for 5 years now. Flambaeux on the other hand is a new hero that was just introduced to us earlier this year and at best is a loner that does high level street crime... |
Flambeaux has been levelling up all that time and never makes it any further than the c-list. I mean, she's Blast Furnace's arch-nemesis, which is just embarassing for both of them.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
While Flambaeux in my opinion is likely someone with low self-esteem and is lonely. Her "positive" and "ditzy" attitude is likely a false personality that she puts on because Heroes are like that and also that is what a lot of people do to try to get people to like them. The fact that there are so many people that don't like her, apparently, only makes it worse and I'd predict that she's depressed in reality because what ca she do if she is trying so hard to be someone they like and it's not working..
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Also, you would think she'd get more mileage out of having been wandering around in Manticore's Mansion before she turned evil. Instead she's kind of forgotten all about it. That's terribly convenient, don't you think? It's almost like Manticore is a secret-obsessed vigilante married to one of the world's most powerful psychics, or something.
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Durakken... Flambeaux's been around since issue six. You know, when City of Villains launched. She was a heroine who tried to stop you in Mayhems.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
Fusionette is atomic powered, flying, veteran at this point... She was a new hero back in Faultline. That was six years ago. She's now a veteran in vanguard, which she joined a year later. So she's been fighting the Rikti at lvl50 for 5 years now.
Flambaeux on the other hand is a new hero that was just introduced to us earlier this year and at best is a loner that does high level street crime... |
So if you wanna go by introduction, Flambeaux's been a hero for longer, and failing a lot longer.
Edit: also, adding another vote for Fusionette.
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It's even acknowledged in the 4th hero SSA by Ms Liberty that it's been five years since the Faultline plots were added. I have to admit I got a "wait, what? ...geez" reaction when I hit that.
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Originally Posted by Dante
EDIT: And Faultline is over five years old!? Jeez, now I do feel like I've been playing for a long time!
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@Mindshadow
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Actually, Flambaeux has been one of the heroes that you fight in mayhem missions since they were introduced back in Issue 7.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
Flambaeux on the other hand is a new hero that was just introduced to us earlier this year
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Edit: Dammit, ninja'd.
At least I can claim a point for accuracy on the issue number as, although CoV released with Issue 6, mayhem missions weren't added until Issue 7.
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Fusionette would win the fight I have no doubt.
I do feel a little bad for Flambeaux now that I've been part of the same SG as she was....
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