Fusionette vs Flambeaux
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Posted on: 2012-01-24 11:02 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Oh... my... god...
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Originally Posted by Silentkilla866
Flambeaux! All she wants you to do is love her.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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This to the max!|
Originally Posted by Egos_Shadow
Well, I wouldn't call it evil. Diet evil. Evil lite. Zero calories, not evil enough. She hangs out with Freakshow a bunch, and whines about how people don't give her the attention she feels she deserves, in the manner in which she deserves it. To call her "evil plans" a cavalcade of amateur hour shenanigans is doing them too much credit.
The high level villain and rogue tips with Flambeaux are really funny, though. It's like you're more than a bit embarassed to even be in the same zone with her. |
I love Flambeaux cause anything with here is gonna be funny, but in a Role Play way, you turning the corner in anything and see her there just gets a instant
/em, facepalm "ugh things just got stupid..."
Or to better put it you are your friends are hanging out at Pocket D and you see her before she see you, and you are trying to signal to your friends you "we need to get out of here now!" when you hear her call your name as the music stops in the whole club. Now you got groups on both sides making fun of you in the background as she joins you and your friends >.<
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Originally Posted by Egos_Shadow
Well, I wouldn't call it evil. Diet evil. Evil lite. Zero calories
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Man, that totally reminded me to go read a web comic.
Also, Fusionette in 3 rounds.
I think the fight would end up with Fusionette getting the aggro of three random mobs on her way to the fight. Said mobs then kill them both. That just seems to be the most likely scenario from my experience with the characters.
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God, even Flambeaux's Nemesis duplicate is more intelligent and stable than the real thing.|
Originally Posted by Scythus
Precisely. I've had a tendency to get Flambeaux a lot whenever running that particular mayhem. She's still as terrible a fighter now as she was then.
Fusionette wins, because in my experience, she actually has proven useful. |
Edit: count this as a vote for Fusionette
Now, don't get me wrong, I like both of these characters (well Flambeaux since Issue 18 really), but as for who the winner will be?
EVERY MALE WATCHING THE FIGHT would be the winner.
Seriously.
And I demand a Mud-Wrestling match.....
OK, now for my real opinion: Fusionette. Not that Flambeaux's fire powers couldn't be dangerous, but Fusionette is just, well, better.
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In the vigilante->villain tip where you run into Flambeaux, she turns out to be so dense that she's impossible to mislead. You confront her with a revelation (that's actually true!) and it just kind of bounces off because she has high resistance to information that doesn't mesh with her world view. Though then you really beat seven kinds of heck out of her since vigilantes are jerks.|
Originally Posted by Demonic_Spark
I love Flambeaux cause anything with her is gonna be funny, but in a Role Play way, you turning the corner in anything and see her there just gets a instant
/em, facepalm "ugh things just got stupid..." |
Really the way vigilantes and villains treat her is a puppy kicking moment. The rogue tips with Flambeaux on the other hand treat her kind of like your little sister showed up at your normal hangout and you need to gently shoo her out before she hurts herself on something. No no, kiddo, Nemesis robots are for grownups.
@Mindshadow
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Honestly, this does seem like the most likely outcome for such a fight. But I'd expect Fusionette would last two or three more seconds than Flambeaux, if you can count that as a win.
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Originally Posted by Violet Sorceress
I think the fight would end up with Fusionette getting the aggro of three random mobs on her way to the fight. Said mobs then kill them both. That just seems to be the most likely scenario from my experience with the characters.
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Fire Blast > Energy Blast, especially with procs.
If Flambeaux has Energy Manipulation she'll have Boost Range as well...which gives her an edge. If she's Fire/Fire it's just more AoE goodness. As for KB, Flambeaux can just use Hover. We know she can use the Market since...*SPOILERS* in a Twinshot arc you speak with her next to Wentworth's, where she found some IOs to make her hair better. She might have enough KB protect from IOs to make that meaningless.
Overall I find Flambeaux less annoying AND we get to defeat her in a bunch of morality missions too, so she wins hands down.
Actually, the real fight should be Arcanaville vs. Johnny Butane but that might be postponed indefinitely since Johnny dislikes fighting AVs.
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You realize this just proves Flambeaux to be a bigger idiot since we all know there are no hair costume pieces that drop as recipes. Only boots and wings.
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Originally Posted by Neuronia
Fire Blast > Energy Blast, especially with procs.
If Flambeaux has Energy Manipulation she'll have Boost Range as well...which gives her an edge. If she's Fire/Fire it's just more AoE goodness. As for KB, Flambeaux can just use Hover. We know she can use the Market since...*SPOILERS* in a Twinshot arc you speak with her next to Wentworth's, where she found some IOs to make her hair better. She might have enough KB protect from IOs to make that meaningless. |
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Unless if its .. foreshadowing or something like that. Maybe we'll have hair invention drops next!!
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
You realize this just proves Flambeaux to be a bigger idiot since we all know there are no hair costume pieces that drop as recipes. Only boots and wings.
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Originally Posted by Wavicle
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
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Considering that I'm always knocking her down, I doubt this.|
Originally Posted by Neuronia
Fire Blast > Energy Blast, especially with procs.
If Flambeaux has Energy Manipulation she'll have Boost Range as well...which gives her an edge. If she's Fire/Fire it's just more AoE goodness. As for KB, Flambeaux can just use Hover. We know she can use the Market since...*SPOILERS* in a Twinshot arc you speak with her next to Wentworth's, where she found some IOs to make her hair better. She might have enough KB protect from IOs to make that meaningless. |
There's also no evidence that she has Hover.
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Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
I'll put 1,000,000 inf on Fusionette right now.
Although she's a bit of a ditz, and a bit prone to getting captured, once you get her free, she's a more than worthy ally. She has the bonus of knockback. Flambeaux cant shoot if she can't stand (a way I've beaten her more than once.) She also has the bonus of mobility (Has anyone seem Flambeaux fly? I don't think I have.) I'm discounting allies since we know Flambeaux hangs out with Freaks but, if we did allow them in Fusionette would have another edge. Lets just look at her friends list shall we? Faultline (Jim Temblor, stone tank) Penny Yin (most powerful psychic in the game universe and the person the Clockwork King has a crush on) Doc Delilah (SS/Inv tank) We could also make allowances for her Vanguard membership so...... Again, 1,000,000 on Fusionette. Any takers? |
1,000,000,000 on Fusionette, for all the above. She is also far more experienced (the Second Rikti War was almost half a decade ago, and she was already somewhat experienced by that point). She is also partially armored with Impervium and draws energy from a more deadly power source.
The only way Flambeaux would ever reach a level beyond where she currently stands is if she quit aiming for such petty goals and began to push herself to gain more experience.
For example, Spiderman is no where near as powerful as most other characters in the Marvel universe, but there was a comic during the Siege storyline where Ms. Marvel came to recruit him to assist Asgard simply because he has a very good reputation of successfully fighting time and again against things that are far, far bigger than the level of his powers should permit. Spiderman's experience is his greatest weapon. Until Flambeaux can match that kind of experience, she will remain outranked by Fusionette... if only by merit of the lethality of their respective powers.
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I will point that there is a caveat to Spiderman's powers. He is a young man; his powers are proportional to that of a young spider. It is said that when he matures into his mid to late 30s early 40s his powers will have reached maturity and increased exponentially. I have read speculation that Parker's powers will revival some of the strongest hero/villains in the Marvel Universe.
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Originally Posted by Sylph_Knight
For example, Spiderman is no where near as powerful as most other characters in the Marvel universe...
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I like Ego's post. I dont remember the entire back story of Flamebeuax or Fusionette, but I think theyd make a fun and entertaining fight...
Fusionette does have allies but Flamebeuax hangs with more than just Freaks. Shes got the arachnos too and that little squad of people in Atlas. I think in one of the tip morality missions she appears too with a Villain that has Spines...but I may be wrong on that.
Fusionette would definitely win though...
Flambeaux.
2bil inf.
Devs, set up the match. Or someone make an AE mission where all we do is click something and the two appear to duke it out. Make it a gambling/boxing like event on different servers. I see potential here 
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i second that notion!!
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Flambeaux runs on a team with Polar Shift (I think that's her name?) and Ghoulish Delight at one point at high levels, so she can play nice... sometimes... sort of. I've never seen her in the same place as Echnida (the evil spines scrapper from the Rogues Gallery). Nor have I ever seen Arachnos and Flambeaux in the same place without them trying to kill her.|
Originally Posted by Swordacool
Fusionette does have allies but Flamebeuax hangs with more than just Freaks. Shes got the arachnos too and that little squad of people in Atlas. I think in one of the tip morality missions she appears too with a Villain that has Spines...but I may be wrong on that.
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I think the Shining Stars have pretty much written Flambeaux off. I mean, on tip missions you're constantly running into people trying to reform Mangle (Mangle of all people - I mean, why not try that goodie-goodie stuff with Echnida? Echnida just needs a hug, but Mangle is bugf*@# crazy) but everyone just seems to be hoping Flambeaux will go away.
@Mindshadow
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You could make a mission where you pick one and help them fight the other (+the other's usual allies).|
Originally Posted by Lulipop
Or someone make an AE mission where all we do is click something and the two appear to duke it out. Make it a gambling/boxing like event on different servers. I see potential here
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C'mon, like people would let them have a fair fight.
@Mindshadow
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One rogue, One enemy, one clicky that summons them both. Casino room is best (so far that I've found since it's relatively small, and they both meet each other fairly quickly. )|
Originally Posted by Egos_Shadow
You could make a mission where you pick one and help them fight the other (+the other's usual allies).
C'mon, like people would let them have a fair fight. |
Set them as ''must be defeated'' on both ends for the mission to be ''completed.''
Just have the person running the AE event record the whole thing. Set it for the highest difficulty, on the highest settings and see who comes out the winner. Exit the mission without completing or beat on the winner for fun, and take the glory at the end. Whatever floats you know?
Best out of 3 rounds wins.
Post the video/videos on youtube.
Ta-dah. Influence gambling born.
The problem is that I don't think Fusionette is in AE.
Nor is a high level Flambeaux.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Fusionette; lvl 34-54 (Vanguard Shield)|
Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
The problem is that I don't think Fusionette is in AE.
Nor is a high level Flambeaux. |
Flambeaux; lvl 1- 10 (Paragon Heroes)
No matter if you set the mission cap at level 10, Fusionette spawns at 34 then comes in and sweeps the floor with Flambeaux in one friggin hit.
Is there some reason why there's a level lock on these characters? I don't understand why there isn't a universal 1-54 release on all of them? Then again, I'm not AE/Tech savy yet.
Who would win in a fight and which is the better character?
However, if you ask Quantumshock, he'll say Flambeaux since he is head over heals for this woman. Why? I have no earthly idea!
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