AT's, their desirability and usefulness in teams
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Acemace,
Posted on: 2012-01-21 21:44 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
The desirability of any AT rises and falls with the current team composition but only after a certain break point. Every AT is desirable when first forming a league/team as all you need are willing players, and this universal recruiting extends until you are about 90% full. Only then you can properly judge the desirability of ATs as you try and round out your group.
Woke early today and was finishing the last mission and errand on the Midnighter. In help I hear someone railing against Tanks. I point out they can be useful, although they are a specific tool for a specific job. He/She says they are useless. I point out that they are very desirable for certain Master TFs and have a good place in regular teams as well. He/She says they are useless, using different words. I point out that they are very good for fast rolling teams hitting the spawn/taking the alpha/moving on. He/She says his (dom or troll, cant remember) can do that better, tanks are useless. I retort "I dub theee Troll..." and that was part of my morning in the city lol.
I was in a level 30 mission team last night and we were 6 stalkers and 2 night widows.
It was a really strange experience but it was a blast! Very entertaining. We were like 8 ninjas.
That is what i love about this game. Anything, yes ANYTHING can work if you really want it to work.
I was thinking about Aion while playing. Was thinking about how much time i wasted back then because building a team took ages, because nothing could be done if you had not with you a healer, a tank or mezz.
In CoH, you just invite whatever is available and you are set. Inspirations drops like candies and you can run all along with only these and your teamates forever.
Any player loaded with Inspirations can accomplish miracles.
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Well that game also has a very different community than coh, one that caters more to such a playstyle, where things actually matter, and it works for those people that play that game. And tbh making a team there wasn't that bad. sins/glads/temps/chanters could all tank, clerics/chanters could heal, anything could dps, and mez was only needed if your group was bad.
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Originally Posted by Celestial_Fury
I was thinking about Aion while playing. Was thinking about how much time i wasted back then because building a team took ages, because nothing could be done if you had not with you a healer, a tank or mezz.
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Why should I bother when you've yet to give anything substantive to back up your initial claims? You just threw some idiotic crap out there then started playing the poor, bullied victim when everyone told you how idiotic it was.
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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
they weren't the exact words used - but I didn't think you would nitpick exact wording.
And you keep saying I am wrong, but post nothing substantive to show that I am. Your continued avoidance of substance simply convinces me further that I am right. You have posted on this thread multiple times, you are not avoiding it. You have no reason not to post a substantive example of how I am wrong except that you do not have one. |
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Great, now you're nitpicking the premise. Will it never end?
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Originally Posted by Tyger42
Why should I bother when you've yet to give anything substantive to back up your initial claims? You just threw some idiotic crap out there then started playing the poor, bullied victim when everyone told you how idiotic it was.
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I didn't read the whole thread, but I agree that desirability and usefulness should be inherent for all ATs.
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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
For my last post on this thread I will skip any analysis or comments and just list a rank order of usefulness to a team for non-IO, non-incarnate, characters not going after an AV or GM.
Controller Defender Corruptor SoA Crab SoA Fortunata Mastermind SoA Bane SoA Night Widow Dominator Tanker Brute Blaster Stalker (with new buffs) Scrapper Too build specific to rank: Peacebringer Warshade and for the record, I play Tankers and Dominators |
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Hadn't read the post at first but now I congratulate the OP, funny thread.