Why Movies Suck Today ?


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Dark Age, I think I know the problem you're having!

Hollywood! Writers living in California!

It's like watching a movie, where they treat every state as if it was California.

187 doesn't mean murder in other states!

Age of Consent is 16 in Rhode Island, not 18 like California! Hell it's 13 in New Mexico with the same sex.

Now, as someone from Cali, let me tell you, it's a place driven by being politically correct! And that political correctness is spreading. And it's really not as a previous poster said as a way to show basic kindness to people. But that's besides the point.

The point is, you're watching movies being made by people who feel they need to be politically correct, while being funded by people who want to do everything in their power to have their investment returned at a substantial profit.

So you're likely to hate almost everything you watch, when you have such views.

Personally, I say just go by a movie to movie basis. Also, you might enjoy Shoot Em Up! Check it out!


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You are aware of what 'hollywood' is code for, right?
Now I must know what you think this code is! O.O


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Now I must know what you think this code is! O.O
Clearly, it means "villain" or "heel".


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THE THING 2011

Ok so why is there a BLACK MAN on a Norweign base in Antarctica? Guess there are so many blacks in Norway right. Wonder why he was put into the movie. Cater the the black audience ? Kinda insulting to my intelligence.
Well I guess you didn't see the movie or you would have known that the "BLACK MAN" was an American helicopter pilot (one of three) who ran supplies to the base. Actually 5 members of the base during the movie were Americans, 1 British, 1 French and the remaining 10 Norwegian.


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As I read through a pile of text citing various instances and generalized peeves that had no ill effect on my entertainment during those movies, I reminisce about a darker chapter in my life history where I was the same way. Growing up, I had a cynical phase where I hated most of the media I encountered. From movies to books to videogames to TV shows, I disliked them all. And it was often for very small reasons that would make me hate the whole movie. From thinking that the plot was too contrived, to thinking that the jaded plot wasn't inverted enough, to only remembering a few moments that would "ruin" the rest of the movie, as long as there was a reason to be discontent with the movie, I wouldn't like it.

For the movies I did like, they were often over trivial details, like not being a sequel or having a few funny or novel lines in them. But, it is a bit of an existential drug to be cynical about things. Dislikes are arguably a more distinguishing feature than alikes, so finding reasons to dislike things solidifies your position in the world. Discontent with the pedestrian in the mind of the cynic sets the cynic to be superior to the society that they are unhappy with. So then, they search out people who have the same "higher" standards to massage their ego.

Problem was, I was miserable, since I couldn't enjoy anything. I wasn't doing myself a service by hating movies, and I also wasn't doing anyone else a service, either. I would parade around the flaws of the movies that others like as if it were flaws to their very soul. Eventually I got sick of it and decided to to find reasons to like movies instead. Many years later, upon retrospection and introspection, I have come to learn the following:

  • Disliking something does not make you superior to someone who liked unsaid something
  • Your standards of approval are ultimately arbitrary.
  • Therefore, things like simplicity and complexity don't equal better.
  • Being unhappy with things generally doesn't pay out in the long run.
  • "The best way to fight the cynicism of unreasonable standards is to get stupid about things."
A better way to say the fifth is to embrace your inner child, but I liked the phrase above. If you're being offended by the ending of the first Transformers movie, you seriously need to chill out.


Nowadays, I like most movies. From older movies like Twelve Monkeys, to newer ones like Inception (both I recommend), as long as there aren't any glaring plot holes or it isn't trying to shove a politically loaded message that I really don't like down my throat, I can enjoy most movies.



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Originally Posted by Blood Red Arachnid View Post
older movies like Twelve Monkeys
You can't see it, but I'm giving you *such* a look right now. There are brows, and the furrowing of them.


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I completely support your use of historical facts where you've applied them to non-fictional historical accounts. Fictional stories, however, are called fiction for a reason.
Being fictional is not the problem...being irrational, silly and emasculate is. I have an imagination and can , for example, go along with the story in the THING 2011 about an alien crashing thousands of years ago in Anarctica. What I cannot go along with is the fact that these Norweigns, who according to the movie wanted to keep the alien discovery a secret, would travel to the USA and hire an American scientist rather than someone from Norway.

Historical movies have more of a responsibility in my opinion, even fictional stories that take place in a historical background. The movie BRAVEHEART was a fun movie to watch yet it is a mess of historical inaccuracies. The movie was also insulting to my intelligence as it tried to make you believe that at the Battle of Stirling a lesser equiped Scottish army outnumbered 3 to 1 could defeat a much larger English force on open ground simply cause they were determined enough. In reality the Scots only won the battle because they caught the English army crossing a bridge and were able to bottleneck them before they could cross. (The Battle is actually called Battle of Stirling Bridge)


Movies can be fictional but they cannot throw all sense out the window and expect to be good. In Superman Returns, I could believe that he could disappear for 5 years to explore Krypton... what was contrived and made no sense was how he did not tell anyone including Lois before he left.


 

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Why Movies suck today?

In my view it's all to do with censorship, if I were to put it into computer terms and base it on my old ZX Spectrum games, Jet set willy and Leisure Suit Larry would have a 18 cert nowadays with my old tape deck to play them having a parental control button.

Censorship ruins a lot of films as directors have to cater to masses to recoup the monies required for top actors/actresses, CGI etc.

I would go as far to say that when people have a DVD collection most of their coverted movies are from a time when censorship was a null, mainly early 80's.

Even Horror movies of today, try to bring their certificate rating down to a 15 in order to have a wider scope of recoup.

So if director's were allowed to make movies for love instead of trying to soak up the Box office I think we would get a better class of film, and we would be able to work out a genre of a film without thinking was Terminator Salvation a Horror/Action/Romance or Sci-fi movie or all 4.

All 4 dosen't work for me I like 1 genre to a film, 2 at most.


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So who pays the people to make bad reviews on IMB and stuff ? Rival studios ? While studios no doubt pay people to promote their movies by giving good reviews on IMB ...who pays people to give bad reviews as you say ? Does not really seem economical for DC to pay a couple dozen people to write a bad review on Iron Man 2 when they could spend money elsewhere. I am not saying it doesnt happen... I just do not see it happening nearly as much as companies paying people to promote movies by giving good reviews.


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You're an old soul. An old, woefully out of touch soul.
If not liking bilge and tripe spewed out by Hollywood is 'woefully out of touch' then I'm happy to say "Get orf mah lawn!"


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If not liking bilge and tripe spewed out by Hollywood is 'woefully out of touch' then I'm happy to say "Get orf mah lawn!"
Don't worry, my comment had nothing to do with movies.


 

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Nowadays, I like most movies. From older movies like Twelve Monkeys,
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You can't see it, but I'm giving you *such* a look right now. There are brows, and the furrowing of them.
You got to it before I could Tenzhi. Well, I guess it's time to sit on the porch and run kids off the lawn.


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In the past, not every movie to come out of Hollywood was a gem, either. Turns out, movies have always, overall, "sucked" like they do now. lol @ Plan 9 From Outer Space. Stories have been rehashed all through out history, actually. Books, plays, bards telling stories they've heard from other bards, etc. Just how it goes. Things really aren't sucking any worse now than they have in the past. It's just this is the present. We get to see all the suck first hand and in our faces.


 

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Historical movies have more of a responsibility in my opinion, even fictional stories that take place in a historical background.
History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men.


 

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You can't see it, but I'm giving you *such* a look right now. There are brows, and the furrowing of them.
I suppose if you want to say that a movie made 17 years ago isn't old, you can. Of course, for me that is one of those moments where I remember hearing about the movie when I was seven years old, and still learning how to read effectively.

You old fogeys need to learn that anything further back than 1990 isn't just old. It's super-duper old, back when movies were crudely drawn on the walls of caves and you had to run really fast by them to watch it.



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You old fogeys need to learn that anything further back than 1990 isn't just old. It's super-duper old, back when movies were crudely drawn on the walls of caves and you had to run really fast by them to watch it.
That is so full of wrong. We were using papyrus flip books for animation back then.


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I suppose if you want to say that a movie made 17 years ago isn't old, you can. Of course, for me that is one of those moments where I remember hearing about the movie when I was seven years old, and still learning how to read effectively.

You old fogeys need to learn that anything further back than 1990 isn't just old. It's super-duper old, back when movies were crudely drawn on the walls of caves and you had to run really fast by them to watch it.
It's going to make me seem and feel older to say this, but one day you too will realise just how little time 17 years is. Probably when some young upstart is telling you how ancient it is and you feel your brows begin to knit in consternation.


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Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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I have an imagination and can , for example, go along with the story in the THING 2011 about an alien crashing thousands of years ago in Anarctica. What I cannot go along with is the fact that these Norweigns, who according to the movie wanted to keep the alien discovery a secret, would travel to the USA and hire an American scientist rather than someone from Norway.


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how dare they get someone from another country to help!


 

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how dare they get someone from another race and/or gender to help!
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And apparently you are the intellectual big shot of these forums? No wonder you people are so easy to dominate in an argument if you are the best these forums can produce.

Stick with math ace.


 

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fix'd!
First THING had no women in it. It was a great movie. Maybe the new THING should not have tried to fix what wasn't broken.


 

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And apparently you are the intellectual big shot of these forums? No one you people are so easy to dominate in an argument if you are the best these forums can produce.

Stick with math ace.


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Resorting to posting pictures to handle your deficiency in deductive logic and reasoning ?

I am sure your degree in mathematics makes you an excellent movie critic.