Oh, you naughty naughty naughty naughty elf!

...Bugbear of mine.

Please note that it states "relatively sexless" and not "sterile/unsexed" (like a SuperMutant from Fallout would be in one time period).

I take this to mean the normal human tells of gender identity have diminished to the point of difficulty telling the genders of Trolls apart - not that they are barbie dolls/action man.

The oversized muscles and lack of body fat would cause the bodyshapes of male and female Trolls to look almost identical (I guess the females may be slightly shorter with narrower shoulders and wider hips... but then Dyne mutates bones as well to make the horns come through so that might not count!).

Also, the fact they lose most if not all their bodyhair as they go up the ranks and heavily tattoo their bodies would complete the transition from what the public (or the IC person writing the entry) would see. Their behaviours are a mixture of news stories and eye-witness accounts of their violence - the raves are off limits, so the genders involved/reported would fall to the same pitfalls the person on the street faces.

I would suspect doctors and Trolls can tell each other apart. The people on the street, and most heroes would see what was described, a bunch a relatively sexless musclebound green thugs covered in tattoos.

From a strictly story/RP point of view, Trolls should still have genders and still be able to function biologically - because we've not been shown otherwise. A good rule of thumb is that never commenting on it usually means canon follows real life.

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Note - I have no idea either way how closely Dyne follows steroids. But it is a good comparison to make. I'm not sure whether steroids can make someone sterile (though I am aware of the tissue wastage and possibly impotence too), but they certainly don't make people sexless.

Note 2 - For the purpose of my post, "Gender" refers to the ideological identity the person attributes to themselves "Man vs Woman vs <Of choice>". "Sex" refers to the biological status of the person, "Male vs Female vs Transitional".

Note 3 - For the purpose of my post's terms, it appears the official documentation on Trolls should actually read "Relatively genderless" and not "relatively sexless". Unfortunately that's likely because it was written by a writer and not a medical professional/psychologist/etc etc.

Wow. I guess I should be careful what I wish for... I might just get a horrifying plasticy re-imagining of it.

Devs am hating Trolls.

WELL. That wasn't something I was expecting to like as much as I did.

I've ruined Christmas

How is that different from the Top Cow series with Freedom Phalanx?

You know, when I read it from the Top Cow series it was nothing like that.

And if I HAD read those issues, I would of said they were the suckie as well.

"Breaking the Fourth Wall"
Deadpool does it all the time

@War-Nugget

Originally Posted by Wavicle CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.

Which is fine with one character who can be played off as it being part of some insanity. Doing the whole universe thing of badges and enhancements ruins the comic book universe (for me...others may very well like it).

Messing with the Fourth Wall is a very tricky proposition.

It is one thing to wink at the audience by say, having the author(s) make a cameo. As long as the major players are not breaking the wall, it is still possible to carry forward with the integrity of the narrative intact. For example, I thought it was GREAT to see Ascendant in the comics. (If you are not familiar with this hero, take a look at his phone call transcripts in the CoH Wiki.) Ascendant's presence was a wink at the audience that still left the wall intact.

It is another thing altogether once a major player breaks the Fourth Wall because once it is done, you cannot take it back. If Hamlet steps to the edge of the stage and says, "Geez, I wish Shakespeare would make up my mind for me!" then the tragedy has turned into a farce. It is not possible to have a straight narrative drama any longer, since the audience has been informed that at least one (or more) of the players is aware that they are in Strawberry Fields, where "nothing is real." If the characters have, as it were, suspended the suspension of disbelief, then it is all over unless the story is a farce.

Ms. Liberty resuming her station as a trainer does not strike me as all that problematic; new heroes need training, and that does not necessarily scream "MMORPG!" Getting awarded an Exploration Badge, however, does. It is a cheap laugh like Hamlet's quip that cannot be undone.

If writing superhero comics were easy, we would all be Troy Hickman.

"T for Teen" as defined by the ESRB:

So far, everything you evinced is right on the money. What now, Puritan Zombie Man?

(I can't tell if you're trying to be funny, sarcastic, serious or the town crier. Doesn't sound like you IMO, but I really didn't feel like reading the followup responses, so wanted to at least get the actual ESRB definition in there.)

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Puritan?

Do you not understand what 'Puritan' means or did you not really read even the first post?

Your OP came across as kneejerk "omg u see her knees THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN" reactive. This is commonly associated with the perception of Puritanism where anything pleasurable is considered sinful.

(Side note: If you dig into Puritanical precepts of sex and marriage, they're actually something of party animals. So long as you're married.)

So, Zomb: Serious? Not serious? Making a point that I'm not getting? Take it at face value?

EDIT: On your second point, yep, I understand what it means. Your take on their marketing of this green elf is what I branded as a Puritanical stance. I read your post twice. Both times, I imagined you wearing a black hat and looking like you had a Titan Weapon shoved somewhere uncomfortably. You couldn't have fit the picture better if you broke out a ruler and measured the pixel distance between fuzzy knee cuffs to crotch. That's why it didn't make sense to me: Didn't sound like you, so I stuck with the actual ESRB definition in my original post.

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It's associated with them because it's true - the Puritans were horrible people

You're sure quick to refute what you're not sure about!

What I have written, I have written.

And I think I have written an verbal Rorschach test.

What did I refute? I just gave you the definition of the ESRB, and applied it to the pictures you offered.

(I updated my earlier post, btw, so read there for more info.)

*EDIT: Okay, by definition, it's "refute". I refuted you. I agree. Still, you're wrong. Discuss.

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I'm more outraged that all those speaking either have closed mouths or GET ON THE CHOPPAH mouths.

Turgenev refutes Zombie Man because he believes that Zombie Man is wrong.

And if Turgenev's beliefs are not in Turgenev's direct control, does Turgenev have free will?

Of course he does. Free will is predicated on a subjective analysis of the perceived environment and its factors, as known by the observer. Based on observed scenarios, the observer can make conclusions. Free will is not impacted by the angle of "truthiness", as the choice of action still falls upon the actor. Whether one can be manipulated into choosing an action they would not otherwise pursue is, however, relevant.

However, the perceived intent of your post decrying the extremes of Paragon Studios' marketing effort in accordance with the ESRB "Rated T for Teen" was fairly neatly debunked as falling within definition of their rating. Based on the original post, you are a prude.

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It's on page six after "Are we eating too much garlic as a people?"