Back Alley Brawler dies
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Posted on: 2011-12-12 20:59 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Gonna be Manticore. I'm standing by that.
You mean... March?
oh snap they're gonna kill off the person we least suspect -
ATLAS!
you could have it all
My empire of dirt
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OMG NOOOOOO they are killing off George Takei.
Cancel the kitchen scraps for widows and lepers, no more merciful beheadings and call off christmas!
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Did you watch the video I linked? Matt Miller states "We couldn't do this arc until we built the technology which came with issue 21 the phasing which allows players to permanently alter the world after doing a mission"
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Who said anywhere it was going to involve phasing?
When the character kicks it, they're gone. They're not going to just ghost out when you finish the SSA, they're getting completely written out of the game. It's like the Galaxy City change, even though chronologically Galaxy City is 'new', it has now always happened and is currently happening at the same time, so they've cut Galaxy City out of everything even though *several* (if not nearly all) missions that predate it. When SSA7 hits, this character is going to die and it's going to be a major rewrite just like Galaxy City was, it is going to be 'currently' happening and 'always' have happened and all missions are going to be rewritten to take it into account that involve it. |
And you know what, ultimus? I think that issue 23 of City of heroes is going to see major upgrades to the PVP, base, and base raid system. I think one of the next power sets in the shoot is going to be scythe fighting. I predict the next big update will be fixing dual pistols and kinetic melee's agonizingly long animation times and concentrated strike's sucky animations. Oh, and the next costume bundle will give us long skirts, and the third season of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is 13 episodes because it'll be story arc heavy with an epic climax.
Anyone else who disagrees with my rampant speculation is WRONG, just like how anyone who disagrees with you is clearly wrong! Because we said so, that's why!
/sarcasm
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
And you know what, ultimus? I think that issue 23 of City of heroes is going to see major upgrades to the PVP, base, and base raid system. I think one of the next power sets in the shoot is going to be scythe fighting. I predict the next big update will be fixing dual pistols and kinetic melee's agonizingly long animation times and concentrated strike's sucky animations. Oh, and the next costume bundle will give us long skirts, and the third season of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is 13 episodes because it'll be story arc heavy with an epic climax.
Anyone else who disagrees with my rampant speculation is WRONG, just like how anyone who disagrees with you is clearly wrong! Because we said so, that's why! /sarcasm |
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Being too obvious is my objection to BAB as well.|
Originally Posted by Xzero45
Feels too obvious. But he is up there in "Most likely to die", along with Sister Psyche, Citadel, and Synapse.
Positron has his fancy new TF, Statesman is plastered all over CoH, Numina's already beaten the devs to it by being dead, Manticore was just recently prominently featured in Twinshot's arc. They're safe. Psyche dying would give Manticore more reason to be like Batman and angst out. BABs because of reasons stated above. Citadel being destroyed could potentially open up a spot for a company or group like Crey to try to bust out a new robot hero, giving us a little more variety in hero groups and having said group save face with the people. Synapse because it'd be more tragic to kill off the lovable speedster. Plus Citadel, Synapse, and Psyche have awful TFs that could stand to be updated. *edit* Also, you're terrible at posting forum titles, mang. Someone's gonna come in here and complain you're potentially spoiling the SSA for 'em. |
If stealing their power is the real object, Numina, Manti and Citadel are out. They have no power to steal being dead, natural and a robot respectively. Statesman would be rather a lot of work to remove. That leaves:
1. Psyche. Not much harder to remove than BAB really. Would indeed be very dramatically angsty for Manticore. Could easily be brought back comic style later with the story of having swapped minds at the last second.
2. Synapse. Easy. Too easy. No one cares quite enough about poor Steve. Killing him after all the build up would be anticlimactic. Personally I like the big dumb guy, but those are the facts.
3. Positron. "No!" you say, "Not Posi! He has a TF. He's a dev." And he also has a history of stupidly destructive self-sacrifice, like locking himself in his own armor for a decade or so.
I see a big climax with (probably Psyche - works better with a girl) chained to an altar and about two seconds away from being eaten by Yog-Sathoth or something when Positron swoops in, pushes her out of the way, takes the killing blow and expires just after whispering "I have always loved you." (You see how the impact would be a bit different if he was rescuing Synapse.)
And yes Ultimus, let's bump this in three months and see.
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BAB is the easy choice, but he isn't a member of the phalanx so I'm going to say that it isn't going to be the token that dies.
There are three phalanx members left to be prominent in the "Who will die archs" and they are Manticore, Citadel and Positron.
And the goal for Wade is power, incredible power.
Wade has essentially removed the major players that could interfere with his plans: Sister Psyche is bonkers, Manticore (the world's greatest detective, sort of) is tied up with that and ostrasized by the others. Statesman is awol.
Manticore is highly trained hero with gadgets . . . he seems an unlikely sacrifice for ultimate power.
Citadel is a robot. Again an unlikely sacrifice.
That leaves the "heart" of the phalanx. The one that guards the flames of prometheus. The one who's mirror in praetoria posseses the "power of the universe."
Of all the characters to die, he would be the hardest hitting for the player base. People have a love hate thing with Statesman. Many people would be glad he was gone. Sister dying would hit people, but the impact on Manticore would make up for it.
But Posi . . .
If I was the devs and I really wanted to shake up the player base and the game, to make people think "anything can happen" I would kill him off.
He is not the easy choice, which is essentially Ultimus' argument.
But he is the best choice and the logical one if you want the biggest impact.
So, Ultimus if you want to place a wage, I'm game.
I'll pay you 100,000,000 million influence if its BAB, if you'll pay me the same if it is Positron. Its a wash if its anyone else.
You in?
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Dang it Rainbow, you beat me to it because I was too long winded.
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Not that I have a clue who's going to die, but I'm wondering if one of the original "co-founders" of the Freedom Phalanx will die...
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Freedom_Phalanx
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/The_Da...rimal_Earth%29
Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....
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Ms_Teri, I'll take a stake in that bet. 
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I will pay $1000 US in Paragon Market swag if they promise to kill off Statesman.
Thank you.
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Z tossed out some serious clues. If you read between the lines...
then you know Lt Sulu and John Stewart are going to die.
Done, thread over.
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Originally Posted by Ms_Teri
BAB is the easy choice, but he isn't a member of the phalanx so I'm going to say that it isn't going to be the token that dies.
There are three phalanx members left to be prominent in the "Who will die archs" and they are Manticore, Citadel and Positron. And the goal for Wade is power, incredible power. Wade has essentially removed the major players that could interfere with his plans: Sister Psyche is bonkers, Manticore (the world's greatest detective, sort of) is tied up with that and ostrasized by the others. Statesman is awol. Manticore is highly trained hero with gadgets . . . he seems an unlikely sacrifice for ultimate power. Citadel is a robot. Again an unlikely sacrifice. That leaves the "heart" of the phalanx. The one that guards the flames of prometheus. The one who's mirror in praetoria posseses the "power of the universe." Of all the characters to die, he would be the hardest hitting for the player base. People have a love hate thing with Statesman. Many people would be glad he was gone. Sister dying would hit people, but the impact on Manticore would make up for it. But Posi . . . If I was the devs and I really wanted to shake up the player base and the game, to make people think "anything can happen" I would kill him off. He is not the easy choice, which is essentially Ultimus' argument. But he is the best choice and the logical one if you want the biggest impact. So, Ultimus if you want to place a wage, I'm game. I'll pay you 100,000,000 million influence if its BAB, if you'll pay me the same if it is Positron. Its a wash if its anyone else. You in? |
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That's why it won't be him.|
Originally Posted by Turgenev
I will pay $1000 US in Paragon Market swag if they promise to kill off Statesman.
Thank you. |
Too much rejoicing.
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Done.|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
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See you in March.
Halfsies, Rainbow?
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And to clarify my poor writing i'm betting 100 million influence, not 100,000,000,000,000 influence . . .
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I'm in, gorgeous!
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Originally Posted by Ms_Teri
Done.
See you in March. Halfsies, Rainbow? |
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Originally Posted by Ms_Teri
And to clarify my poor writing i'm betting 100 million influence, not 100,000,000,000,000 influence . . .
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-- I'd have to farm a lot to get that haha.
I'd have to pay the spammers to come up with that kind of credit . . <shudders>
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I think it would indeed be a big impact if Positron took the killing blow on behalf of Synapse and told him, "I have always loved you."
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Originally Posted by Rainbow Avenger
I see a big climax with (probably Psyche - works better with a girl) chained to an altar and about two seconds away from being eaten by Yog-Sathoth or something when Positron swoops in, pushes her out of the way, takes the killing blow and expires just after whispering "I have always loved you." (You see how the impact would be a bit different if he was rescuing Synapse.)
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That would probably shake up the player base as much as the death.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I think it would indeed be a big impact if Positron took the killing blow on behalf of Synapse and told him, "I have always loved you."
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Think of all the sorting through past missions for clues, the way people debate whether Sherlock and Watson were lovers or not . . .
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That's an assumption, I don't think in the context of WWD he's ever been forthcoming about his motives. Darrin Wade has one huge transparent motive which may or may not be related to WWD (not going to spoil anything here, but I'm talking about what he says at the end of his mid-level villain arc) but I don't think personal power has ever come into it.
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Originally Posted by Ms_Teri
And the goal for Wade is power, incredible power.
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