Enhancement Converters


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We need something like this for hami-os.


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One thing I'd like to point out (unless it's been changed internally) is the level of the IO is taken into consideration when converting. So a level 50 IO will NOT convert into an IO from a set that caps out at 35 or 40. This can sometimes greatly limit conversion outcomes. For example: If you convert an Aegis IO above level 40 to another Resist Damage set, you'll only get Titanium Coating IOs as the result because these are the only two non-VR or PvP Resist Damage sets that go to 50.

Edit: You can also convert boosted IOs, and the Enhancement boosts will remain intact.


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This is very interesting. It may be time to start collecting worthless pieces of set IOs, in hopes of getting a successful conversion to the hard-to-find pieces of set IOs.


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Great ! Sounds Awesome !


 

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Originally Posted by EvilRyu View Post
Posi can you post some conversion examples on how it works?
I can do it:

Say you want to convert a Doctored Wounds: Heal/Recharge (50). If you have any Enhancement Converters in your inventory, you'll have a new "Convert" option next to "Manage" on your Enhancement tray. Clicking on it will open up the conversion window. You drag the IO from your try to the Input slot. You then select whether you want to convert it to another Doctored Wounds IO, another Healing IO, or another uncommon IO. If you have enough Converters, you can click on a button and convert the IO. Since the IO is level 50, there's no chance of it converting into an IO from a set that caps out below 50. There's also no chance of converting it into a very rare IO or a PvP IO.


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Sounds exploitable with the sets that have very few alternatives for choices. For instance if you do jump IO sets and do it as jump to another jump set you have to get a rare and thats a 33% chance for a stealth IO. I see uncommon salvage and recipes finally being worth a damn finally.


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I'm betting its not going to be a straight 33.33% chance for a Stealth IO in a three piece set though; they'll probably adjust the chances for the "good pieces" to make them less likely to get.


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Thanks for this, Posi! This actually seems wholly appropriate... it's something the game can be fully enjoyed without ever feeling a "need" for, yet a great incentive for getting/maintaining a VIP subscription and it doesn't bleed the VIPs for extra money. I approve on all counts.


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Originally Posted by EvilRyu View Post
We need something like this for hami-os.
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I would also take a way to convert 10 Centrioles into any other HO. Wow I have a lot of Centrioles stored up.


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Does this have anything to do with the Archetype Exclisive IO sets like the ones said to be obtained by the "Super Packs?"

Because honestly I think those should be obtained ingame randomly by a unique way instead of the market.


 

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Originally Posted by Defragment View Post
Does this have anything to do with the Archetype Exclisive IO sets like the ones said to be obtained by the "Super Packs?"

Because honestly I think those should be obtained ingame randomly by a unique way instead of the market.
They've already said that the ATIOs are going to be 'purchasable' in game from Merit Vendors for Reward Merits. Also if I remember correctly theres a small chance for a drop from bosses for VIPS.. not sure though




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The process is still too random for me to consider any using merits on, even the standard ones. At best chance it's still only a 33% shot to get what I want from a 3 piece set if I spend 30 merits. I'll try it if I get the converters in drops and I can find a cheap crafted IO on the market, but I'm not paying for them.


 

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Originally Posted by Defragment View Post
Does this have anything to do with the Archetype Exclisive IO sets like the ones said to be obtained by the "Super Packs?"

Because honestly I think those should be obtained ingame randomly by a unique way instead of the market.
You may want to read this post.


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Originally Posted by Benchpresser View Post
... Also if I remember correctly theres a small chance for a drop from bosses for VIPS.. not sure though
You're thinking of the Catalysts.


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Originally Posted by Positron View Post
1 token to convert a Set IO into another, random, enhancement of the same rarity
OK, you already mentioned that "regular" purples and PVP IOs are each their own "rarity" despite both showing as "very rare" (which I totally understand and agree with).

What about the separate categories of Rare IOs? For example, will a rare from the "Mission End" pool have a chance to change to one from the "Rare Enemy Drop" pool, or vice versa, or only into another from the same drop pool?

And are these usable on recipes, the crafted enhancements, or either?


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Originally Posted by UberGuy View Post
Interesting! I do think this change makes it far more likely I'll make use of these.

Interesting and I agree with UberGuy (and others) in saying that I may actually use these

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Originally Posted by Balorn View Post
OK, you already mentioned that "regular" purples and PVP IOs are each their own "rarity" despite both showing as "very rare" (which I totally understand and agree with).

What about the separate categories of Rare IOs? For example, will a rare from the "Mission End" pool have a chance to change to one from the "Rare Enemy Drop" pool, or vice versa, or only into another from the same drop pool?

And are these usable on recipes, the crafted enhancements, or either?
Based on beta testing, it doesn't currently use drop pools, just general rarity. This means that you can convert a Pool B recipe into a Pool C/D recipe (I've done this, in fact).

There are some bugs right now-- I found some Rares that were classified as Uncommon, and Uncommons classified as Rares for the purpose of these, for some reason. I reported the ones I found. Positron did say that some enhancements might switch rarity, but these appeared to be consistent (I converted a Undermined Defenses: Recharge into an uncommon twice), and shown by the dropdown for conversion type. I don't think I got them through a random chance to get a different type, specifically because the drop down listed their rarity wrong.

They are only usable on the crafted enhancements.


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Nice, that means it's cheaper to change a crap IO like a confuse or sniper to something that might actually be useful.


 

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Is it safe to assume that by random It cannot be changed back to itself?


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Are people really thinking about the impact of this..aside from the obvious 'convert junky Gamblers/Numi and get something good.'
Most sets on the marker, even the good ones, have bits that are cheap, compared to the rest of that set. Thus you know you can get a posi blast dam/ran cheap, because they are common and not as desirable as the other bits.
Don't get me wrong, I think it will be handy. I also think it will see an increase in rarity and price on just about everything on the market. Everything people actually use that is. Who is gonna sell the less good recipes, when you can convert them into something better? I have already heard about people stockpiling the cheap purple sets, just so they can convert then into something better. Same goes for pvp IOs like the pbaoe set.
And you can be sure that the ones doing this..are mostly the ones who can afford to lash out 10 billion without a thought. I think they should cost more..and require more to do teh conversions.


 

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Originally Posted by MadHobbit View Post
Is it safe to assume that by random It cannot be changed back to itself?
Same question?

It would be unfair, if the IO convert in itself, waste of token.

And if it won t convert in itself, then it would mean 50% chance to have a +stealth from a celerity IO... so a +stealth for 60 reward merit (40 perhaps, as there is only one RUN set at lvl50 no?).

It's funny that with VR set, it will cost 20 reward merit to convert a worthless IO into a 400milion one, and 30 reward merit to keep it a worthless IO ^^


 

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Originally Posted by Congelateur View Post
And if it won t convert in itself, then it would mean 50% chance to have a +stealth from a celerity IO... so a +stealth for 60 reward merit (40 perhaps, as there is only one RUN set at lvl50 no?).
If they're smart, a piece in a "small set" will have a smaller chance to convert to a "good piece". (i.e., If you have a lame Celerety piece and convert it, you wont have a 50/50 chance of getting a +Stealth)

So in this example, the conversion would have a small chance to get the +Stealth piece, and a large chance to get the other piece.


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hum it would be unfair to give different chances to drop for each recipe, think about recipe roll with ae ticket, in gold recipe we have good ones, and worthless ones, as in silver and bronze in fact, but all with the same price in a given category, and all have the same chance to drop.

Different chances to drop mean different prices.

Real conversion price for a IO that have 25% chance to drop would be 3X the price of the other IO with a 75% chance (in a 3 IO set case)... but conversion is a given price, not a variable one.