New Costume Powers in the Market
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Posted on: 2011-10-24 21:57 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Ninety say what?
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90 enhancement boosters i think for 1600/1800 PPs, if memory servers me right. Like i said though, not sure if its new or i just kept missing it.
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Weapons are NOT invisible. As I own all the costume codes, I've used them many times over the years on all my characters, especially those that don't use Stealth-type powers (which cancel out the costumes and turn them off).|
Originally Posted by Canadian_Medbot
I believe these are the convention costumes, not the ToT available ones. Only downside is weapons are invisible when in costume, oddly the nem staff , blackwand and ghost axe are not.
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Originally Posted by HardRider
Transformations..you mean temp powers we get at halloween?
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The Rikti's blue accents light up in the dark.
The PPD Hardsuit is great if you have the Flight pool, as his rocket boots fire thrust in both Hover and Fly. Also, the yellow accents light up in the dark.
The Harlequin is kinda meh, but I got it at HeroCon, so who was I to say no?
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Originally Posted by BrandX
*sigh* I still await a dark haired Dark Ring Mistress Costume Code, instead of the blonde one I have.
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I don't really care for the Harlequin one...
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Same here... I like the Rikti a lot (and bought him a few minutes ago-), but the Coralax has always been one of my favorites.
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Originally Posted by Serpine
My wife is hoping coralax will pop up sometime soon.
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I thought you were Rikti, not Decepticon.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Waaay too much.
And just more temporary powers to go along with the dozen I pick up from missions, oh and the promo sprints I wish I could not take on every character. ;9
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You can't get these particular costumes from the Halloween event.|
Originally Posted by HardRider
Transformations..you mean temp powers we get at halloween?
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These are a few of the ones you could only get during conventions.
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Originally Posted by Necrotron_RO
480 points still!?
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Originally Posted by Necrotron_RO
$6 is not a very appealing price for an NPC costume, to me, at least.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustJake
No thanks. Too pricey for me.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Waaay too much.
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Originally Posted by LISAR
Maybe not but have you seen the prices people pay for convention codes in CoH?
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Just because some people are crazy enough to pay 50 bucks doesnt make the 6 dollar price tag look better to me. I wouldn't pay more than 2 bucks each for these. Now if they were costume bundles I'd gladly pay $10 per set.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I understand why some people might consider $6 for these former convention hand-out costumes to be too expensive. But considering that I've seen these codes going for as much as $50 on eBay I'd think being able to pay only $6 directly to Paragon Studios is a much better alternative. *shrugs*
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Of course, people were willing to pay $50 because of their rarity and the ability to wow your team-mates with a semi-unique ability. Now that everyone and their dog can have the costume, that aspect goes out the window.
I don't think the eBay prices are a fair comparison to what's a good price when it's available in unlimited numbers.
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I turned on a Hellion ToT costume that dropped on my Beam Rifle Blaster. The rifle was invisible, even when firing, while that costume was running.|
Originally Posted by NuclearToast
Weapons are NOT invisible. As I own all the costume codes, I've used them many times over the years on all my characters, especially those that don't use Stealth-type powers (which cancel out the costumes and turn them off).
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Now I customized the color and took a different model Beam Rifle than the default, so that may come into play. Perhaps only certain weapons are affected.
Since I had HUGE problems with the Inviso Bug of 2006-2007 (which turned all enemies invisible), this is an interesting glitch, not something than renders game play EXTREMELY challenging.
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Is there any advantage, like a stat modifier, or are these costumes all purely visual?
If purely visual, it's definitely not worth 480 points, in my personal opinion
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On almost all the trick or treat costumes I have used my Stalker's sword (ninja blade/ninjutsu) goes invisible, kind of annoying considering every move involves attacking with the blade, so it looks like I'm bashing them with some imaginary stick |
Originally Posted by Melancton
I turned on a Hellion ToT costume that dropped on my Beam Rifle Blaster. The rifle was invisible, even when firing, while that costume was running.
Now I customized the color and took a different model Beam Rifle than the default, so that may come into play. Perhaps only certain weapons are affected. Since I had HUGE problems with the Inviso Bug of 2006-2007 (which turned all enemies invisible), this is an interesting glitch, not something than renders game play EXTREMELY challenging. |
I also tried setting it to the default sword, still was invisible
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
Just because some people are crazy enough to pay 50 bucks doesnt make the 6 dollar price tag look better to me. I wouldn't pay more than 2 bucks each for these. Now if they were costume bundles I'd gladly pay $10 per set.
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Originally Posted by Jophiel
Of course, people were willing to pay $50 because of their rarity and the ability to wow your team-mates with a semi-unique ability. Now that everyone and their dog can have the costume, that aspect goes out the window.
I don't think the eBay prices are a fair comparison to what's a good price when it's available in unlimited numbers. |
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Originally Posted by Rapthorne
Is there any advantage, like a stat modifier, or are these costumes all purely visual?
If purely visual, it's definitely not worth 480 points, in my personal opinion |
But at the same time you really don't have any grounds to imply that it was a "mistake" for Paragon Studios to set the prices for these things at $6 because it's already been well established that, whether you agree with it or not, there are in fact people willing to pay that much (and even much more in this case).
Bottomline you can't really fault Paragon Studios. They are a company in the business to make money. If enough people are willing to buy these things for $6 that's exactly what they'll charge for it, even if there are a number of people like you who think it's too much. *shrugs*
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I think this thread shows that a lot of us here (as well as this thread) think $6 is too much to ask for a largely useless costume power. Its a purely aesthetic option that has no benefit or even the ability to be customized. |
Originally Posted by Lothic
ou can't really fault Paragon Studios. They are a company in the business to make money. If enough people are willing to buy these things for $6 that's exactly what they'll charge for it, even if there are a number of people like you who think it's too much. *shrugs*
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Sure they want to make money, but I bet they would have made a lot more if it were say $6 for the set of three and not just one. That seems to be a fair price in my eyes. They are neat, just not 6 dollars worth of neat.
But hey, if they can get people to pay that price more power to them. I'm just not going to be one of those people. I got a few of the codes for free so I'm content with them.
I didn't say it was a "mistake" to price it at $6, I said you can't use previous eBay pricing as a guide for a "good" price.
I'm sure you wouldn't say $42,000 each is a good price for an unlimited reissued run of Action Comics #1 based on the original being valued at $350,000.
Personally, illusion-style "costumes" (I'm using a lot of quotes today) don't appeal to me at any price so I don't care if it's $6 or $60 or sixty cents. I never even bother using the temp ones from ToT events.
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I think you're missing the point about why Paragon Studios prices things like this. It's simple economics.|
Originally Posted by SmegHead
I think this thread shows that a lot of us here (as well as this thread) think $6 is too much to ask for a largely useless costume power. Its a purely aesthetic option that has no benefit or even the ability to be customized.
Sure they want to make money, but I bet they would have made a lot more if it were say $6 for the set of three and not just one. That seems to be a fair price in my eyes. They are neat, just not 6 dollars worth of neat. But hey, if they can get people to pay that price more power to them. I'm just not going to be one of those people. I got a few of the codes for free so I'm content with them. |
They are always going to push the limit with how much they price new things because they know a certain percentage of people will pay pretty much "any price" for certain items. After those people have mostly finished paying that X amount only then will they lower to price to catch the other people who would only buy it at a lower price.
I actually fully expect the price on these costume powers will be permanently lowered at some point. The trick is now long will it be before that happens. Will it be a week, six months or even longer? Everyone has to decide for themselves if they want something today or if they're willing to wait for it.
That's why I said you can't really claim Paragon Studios made a "mistake" with the $6 price point here. If anything they are being extremely clever about it.
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You might not like that Paragon Studios probably considered how much these codes were going for on the third party market. But I can almost assure you that that factored into the $6 price point in this situation. |
Originally Posted by Jophiel
I didn't say it was a "mistake" to price it at $6, I said you can't use previous eBay pricing as a guide for a "good" price.
I'm sure you wouldn't say $42,000 each is a good price for an unlimited reissued run of Action Comics #1 based on the original being valued at $350,000. |
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Originally Posted by Jophiel
Personally, illusion-style "costumes" (I'm using a lot of quotes today) don't appeal to me at any price so I don't care if it's $6 or $60 or sixty cents. I never even bother using the temp ones from ToT events.
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There is no stat adjustment whatsoever. In fact, it can actually be seen as a debuff, as all of these powers prevent you from using self-stealth powers, such as Shadow Fall or Mask Presence.|
Originally Posted by Rapthorne
Is there any advantage, like a stat modifier, or are these costumes all purely visual?
If purely visual, it's definitely not worth 480 points, in my personal opinion |
Stealth effects from a Stealth IO still seem to work. I think group stealth effects will still work on you too, such as somebody else's Shadow Fall.
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Originally Posted by LordAethar
There is no stat adjustment whatsoever. In fact, it can actually be seen as a debuff, as all of these powers prevent you from using self-stealth powers, such as Shadow Fall or Mask Presence.
Stealth effects from a Stealth IO still seem to work. I think group stealth effects will still work on you too, such as somebody else's Shadow Fall. |
The ToT temp costumes allowed me to stealth
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I'm not 100% certain but I think these permanent costumes from the Paragon Market are suppose to behave (good or bad) exactly like the Halloween event temporary costumes. If they behave differently then that's probably unintended.
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Originally Posted by Rapthorne
So I couldn't use Hide? (I main a Stalker)
The ToT temp costumes allowed me to stealth |
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If they gave it any particular weight, I'd think it was silly of them but it won't keep me up nights.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
You might not like that Paragon Studios probably considered how much these codes were going for on the third party market.
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