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Originally Posted by Kinrad
If you have ever wanted to play a pistol scrapper, I humbly offer this build as a jumping off point for your imagination. ----- irrelevancies snipped --------------------- SuperCent4: Level 50 Technology Corruptor Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols Secondary Power Set: Time Manipulation |
HP, AT Modifiers, Damage Scales, Defense, probably more I'm not thinking of ...
Not to mention that Scrapper Primaries are Melee Attacks and Corruptor Secondaries are Ranged Attacks.
Trying to equate the two is rather absurd.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
The point, I think, was he made a character who had pistols and could play like a Scrapper. I don't approve, but it's none of my business.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I want GunFu not pistols for my scrapper.
hit them with the gun ram the gun in their mouth and shoot... stuff like that.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
I see a rather glaring flaw in your post. Scrapper =/= Corruptor
HP, AT Modifiers, Damage Scales, Defense, probably more I'm not thinking of ... Not to mention that Scrapper Primaries are Melee Attacks and Corruptor Secondaries are Ranged Attacks. Trying to equate the two is rather absurd. |
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The point, I think, was he made a character who had pistols and could play like a Scrapper. I don't approve, but it's none of my business.
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Is it everyone's cup of tea? No.
If they ever create a true scrapper primary for pistols will I play it? Hell yes!
For now, this character brings to the table pretty much everything I want for a scrapperish feel. She's tough to kill, deals decent damage, and spends her life in melee. I'm happy.
Make a man a fire and keep him warm for the day, SET a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of his life.
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It looks like he sort of glossed over my admissions of it being an imperfect guilty pleasure, but meh.
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Did you even read the post?
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Make a man a fire and keep him warm for the day, SET a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of his life.
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IIRC the original concept for the dual pistol set was going to be a short-range "melee" set for scrappers and such. That's what I thought of when I saw the topic title. Disappointing.
Now that I think of it, most Gun Fu characters from John Woo films and elsewhere (Equilibrium, The Matrix, etc.) actually do have Time Manipulation as a secondary. 
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Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
Now that I think of it, most Gun Fu characters from John Woo films and elsewhere (Equilibrium, The Matrix, etc.) actually do have Time Manipulation as a secondary.
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I like the way you think.
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Personally, all I really want is a Pistols Epic for Scrappers. I've never been a fan of ranged weapon melee, but combining ranged weapons with melee weapons is another story entirely, and THAT I am a big fan of.
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Originally Posted by Kinrad
If they ever create a true scrapper primary for pistols will I play it? Hell yes!
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Did you even read the post?
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If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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I see no such admission in your post. Not a word about imperfection. Not a word about guilty pleasure. There was nothing of the sort to gloss over.|
Originally Posted by Kinrad
It looks like he sort of glossed over my admissions of it being an imperfect guilty pleasure, but meh.
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I did however see some erroneous points made.
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For years I was one of the folks who pined for a pistol scrapper, and finally with the introduction of Time Manipulation I have one!
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If you have ever wanted to play a pistol scrapper, I humbly offer this build as a jumping off point for your imagination. |
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SuperCent4: Level 50 Technology Corruptor |
The flaws are still there.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
I see no such admission in your post. Not a word about imperfection. Not a word about guilty pleasure. There was nothing of the sort to gloss over.
I did however see some erroneous points made. Nope, you have a Dual Pistols Corruptor. Except that it isn't a Scrapper, it is a Corruptor, so those that have been wanting to play a pistol scrapper still can't play one. It's a Corruptor, not a Scrapper. The flaws are still there. |
If you jump off the roof, I think you'll miss the ground...
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I have a DP/EM Blaster, softcapped to S/L with decent recharge and mobility. He's fun. Feels like a pistols scrapper when I play him.
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Originally Posted by Arnabas
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If you jump off the roof, I think you'll miss the ground... |
*shrug*
Given what's available. I like it.
And time plays out perfectly for a point blank playstyle.
My Dual Pistols/Kin Corruptor already played at point blank range, Time will only make it that much safer.
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I did however see some erroneous points made.
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Farewell is like the end
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
I see no such admission in your post. Not a word about imperfection. Not a word about guilty pleasure. There was nothing of the sort to gloss over.
I did however see some erroneous points made. Nope, you have a Dual Pistols Corruptor. Except that it isn't a Scrapper, it is a Corruptor, so those that have been wanting to play a pistol scrapper still can't play one. It's a Corruptor, not a Scrapper. The flaws are still there. |
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Nope, you have a Dual Pistols Corruptor.
Except that it isn't a Scrapper, it is a Corruptor, so those that have been wanting to play a pistol scrapper still can't play one. It's a Corruptor, not a Scrapper. |
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Originally Posted by Kinrad
This is a concept build. My character spends almost all of her time in melee, and her damage is NOT on par with a scrapper.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
I see no such admission in your post. Not a word about imperfection. Not a word about guilty pleasure. There was nothing of the sort to gloss over.
I did however see some erroneous points made. Nope, you have a Dual Pistols Corruptor. Except that it isn't a Scrapper, it is a Corruptor, so those that have been wanting to play a pistol scrapper still can't play one. It's a Corruptor, not a Scrapper. The flaws are still there. |
I, like most people who read the OP's post, understood them to say there is no such thing as a pistols scrapper but this is a fun alternative.
If you are either too dense or more likely too unwilling to accept that because the OP didn't actually use the exact phraseology you wanted or expected then that is your issue, not the OPs.
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Time is pretty nice indeed for that armored feeling coupled with a ranged attack powerset. Opens a whole lot of concepts.
.... OP inspired me to roll a DP/sonic corr, that i will infuse S/L defence softcap in it... thx a lot for the idea.....
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I came her to post about Broadsword Blast, but the OP has a good idea. I had a similar thought when I was messing with DP originally and did DP/Traps. It felt more like a damage dealer than a team supporter.
If I wasn't already doing my Ice/Time I might do this. I was fiddling with Time in Mids the other day and realized I could get 200% global recharge. That along with high defense and heals could make a Corruptor feel very Scrappery.
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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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That's how I've been playing my time manipulator since before Time Manip |
Originally Posted by Prodiguy
Wow. Time Manipulation played off as bullet time.
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This is not a suggestion, this is not an absolute truth, this is a statement of... FUN!
For years I was one of the folks who pined for a pistol scrapper, and finally with the introduction of Time Manipulation I have one!
This is a concept build. My character spends almost all of her time in melee, and her damage is NOT on par with a scrapper. She will be susceptible to status attacks until I get Incarnated out. This character is currently only level 33, but is an absolute *joy* to play. If you have ever wanted to play a pistol scrapper, I humbly offer this build as a jumping off point for your imagination.
Keys to survival:
Time's Juncture provides a HEFTY negative to-hit modifier to everything within 25 feet of me.
Farsight and Hasten and Chronoshift are all permanent (or will be when I get them).
Defense is positionally soft-capped, and endurance is kept in check with sets and procs.
The build is not cheap, but it does not contain any purples, so it is cheaper than it could be. I also used a LOT of Alignment Merits from other characters to fund the build.
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SuperCent4: Level 50 Technology Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Time Manipulation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pistols -- Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(7), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Decim-Acc/Dmg(9), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9)
Level 1: Time Crawl -- TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(48)
Level 2: Dual Wield -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(13), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 4: Temporal Mending -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(15), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Bullet Rain -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rng(19), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(19), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Posi-Acc/Dmg(23)
Level 10: Time's Juncture -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DarkWD-Rchg/EndRdx(25), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(25), DarkWD-ToHitDeb(27)
Level 12: Temporal Selection -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(27)
Level 16: Distortion Field -- BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(21), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(34), Slow-I(37), Lock-%Hold(46)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(40), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Decim-Acc/Dmg(40), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 20: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(45), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(50)
Level 26: Time Stop -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(45), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(46), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 28: Farsight -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), HO:Cyto(50)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), HO:Cyto(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-%Dam(33), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Slowed Response -- ShldBrk-DefDeb(A), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(36), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(36), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(36), ShldBrk-%Dam(37), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Chrono Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Dark Embrace -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(42), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(42), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(43)
Level 44: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), HO:Cyto(48)
Level 49: Soul Drain -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 50: Cardiac Total Core Revamp
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(3)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(5), P'Shift-End%(5)
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition
Make a man a fire and keep him warm for the day, SET a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of his life.
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