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Originally Posted by Edana View Post
Someone has clearly been reading Cracked and taking it as fact rather than comedic hyperbole.
Oh dear god I've been arguing against someone whose legal education comes from Cracked? That's what I get for falling behind on my reading.

Ok, the Cracked article gives two examples of this "crime." The first one was a prison guard who was arrested not for giving false information on a facebook profile, but for doing so while posing as another person without their permission. That would be fraud, and the Act covers using computer systems without authorization for the purposes of fraud. The underlying crime was the fraud: using a computer made it potentially a specific federal crime different from just simply impersonation.

The second case I'm going to quote the article:

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The case against Drew hinged on the government’s novel argument that violating MySpace’s terms of service was the legal equivalent of computer hacking. But U.S. District Judge George Wu found the premise troubling.

“It basically leaves it up to a website owner to determine what is a crime,” said Wu on Thursday, echoing what critics of the case have been saying for months. “And therefore it criminalizes what would be a breach of contract.”
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To convict Drew of the felonies, prosecutors would have needed to prove two things: that Drew accessed MySpace “without authorization,” and did it for the purpose of committing a tortious act — in this case, to intentionally cause harm to Megan Meier.

But for the misdemeanors, the jury just had to find that Drew obtained the unauthorized access. Wu said that language, standing on its own, was too vague to pass constitutional muster in this case.
When I sign in to the City of Heroes forums with an anonymous handle, I do so with the full authorization from NCSoft. Therefore, the Act doesn't apply.

Theoretically speaking, using a false name without authorization could be construed as unauthorized access, but a significant percentage of legal scholars, including Judge George Wu above, believe criminalizing that specific form of breach of contract without any other underlying crime is unlikely to be constitutional. The very case that Cracked links to sets legal precedent that interpreting US18 1030 as criminalizing violations of terms of service to gain access to a computer system without the furtherance of any other crime or fraud is invalid, because Judge George Wu explicitly stated in his opinion, there are really only two possibilities: *some* breaches of contract represent unauthorized access and criminalized under the statute, in which case the statute is unconstitutionally vague, or *all* breaches of contract represent unauthorized access and criminalized under the statute, in which case the statute is unconstitutionally broad.


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Originally Posted by Morgan Reed View Post
Except I wasn't posting it as fact.
If that is your excuse I'm going to assume this is a blanket disclaimer.


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Originally Posted by Morgan Reed View Post
Hell, considering Arcanaville has a reputation (deserved or not) of quoting posters to make them look foolish,
Typically, if Arcanaville's quoting makes someone look foolish, it's not because she quoted them but because they said whatever it was in the first place.


 

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Originally Posted by Someone Who Sounds Foolish
Something Foolish
This is clearly my fault.


 

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
If that is your excuse I'm going to assume this is a blanket disclaimer.
You can add it to the disclaimer I put in my post (that you didn't keep in your quote):
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(Note: I'm not claiming this is a fair or reasonable law - or even ruling on said law, just pointing it out there. All it takes is one bored/desperate enough prosecutor to get it tried.)


 

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
What if we provided guidelines so that posts were easily identifiable within each forum?

I don't particularly view it as pigeonholing, simply as...well...simplifying.
Taking information that is organized specifically by what the reader is looking for and smashing it together with things that are unrelated is not simplifying.

The Tank forum generally does not have threads on "how does taunt work" or things equally generic. It has specific questions about tank builds and powers. Having that convenience removed by smooshing irrelevant information about brutes in there does nothing but make things harder to find.


 

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Originally Posted by Morgan Reed View Post
You can add it to the disclaimer I put in my post (that you didn't keep in your quote):
That disclaimer was irrelevant, so it wasn't necessary to quote. I don't care if you think the law is fair or reasonable, I only care what you assert the law to say. You explicitly said "using anything but your real name on the internet is illegal in the US" because of that Act, and that statement is false. It does not anywhere say that. Every element of the Act refers to unauthorized access. Using a pseudonym here on the City of Heroes forums, for example, is authorized access. I'm allowed to do so, so I am.

That's separate from the fact that federal precedent states legally that the misdemeanor sections involving unauthorized access without an underlying act of fraud, theft, or damage are not to be interpreted as implying breach of contractual requirements represents unauthorized access as defined in the law.

Its too bad there are no estoppel rules in the forum EULA.


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Originally Posted by Starcloud View Post
Here's my suggestion:

DO NOT MERGE THE ARCHETYPE FORUMS.

I'm sorry, but your pigeonholing archetypes and merging these forums together will just create an unreadable mess where we, as forum posters and readers, CANNOT find the information we're looking for.

Seriously. "I'm playing a Dominator. I should look for the Dominator forum" is not a hard thing to grasp.
I could not agree more strongly. Most MMO's have class specific forums; f2pers looking for info will expect it (and so do I - it is the only section of the forums that I regularly browse). This one is not your typical MMO - free players are going to need AT specific guidance. Please don't make it harder to find what they need.

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While I certainly appreciate your viewpoint:

What if we provided guidelines so that posts were easily identifiable within each forum?

I don't particularly view it as pigeonholing, simply as...well...simplifying. There's a rather large amount of forums to sift through here on our boards, and to a new, or even veteran player who hasn't spent time on the forums, it's a bit confusing.

Forums should be easy to understand at a glance.
Bluntly: this is meddling, not fixing. A section titled "Archetypes" followed by a forum for each archetype is not confusing - it is properly organized as people would expect.

@Zwillinger: it seems to me that your basic objection is not to the forums themselves so much as to the way in which they are presented. Perhaps the best fix would be to focus on improved presentation rather than changing the actual forums.


 

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Originally Posted by Texas Justice View Post
Currently it's 600 x 120 pixels, albeit the size currently is 146.5 KB in the UserCP Edit Signature page (top of photo) and 150 KB in the Message Forum Rules and Guidelines thread that theOcho posted in August 2010. I know that the UserCP Edit Signature page has been that way since they went to the vBulletin forums.



And yes, there are quite a few signature images that break the 600 x 120 rule. Another inconsistency in applying the rules.
Does that even work? Most people I've seen use a simple image tag in their sig, not that upload link.


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Either fashionably or horribly late, especially given the announcement re intended changes to the forums.

I've never understood why 'General Discussions' and 'Suggestions and Ideas' are in the For Fun section. General Discussions to me, given it's CoH specific, I feel would be more suited to the 'News, Events & Announcements' section. Having the ''Suggestions and Ideas' in the 'For Fun' feels a little like they're being ignored, not that generally 99+% of these will never be considered anyway (I think).


 

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Does that even work? Most people I've seen use a simple image tag in their sig, not that upload link.
The one time I tested it I used Option 1. Yes, it worked.

I've never tested Option 2 so can't comment on it.


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What about a compromise of making the AT forums into links within Role forums. That way, people looking for specific rolls can find the AT forum they wish to look at?


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