Before you can go Hero, you must already have gone Rogue and be a Rogue. You can't skip over being Rogue to get to Hero from Villain.
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You'll be a Rogue if it's the Rogue meter you've filled up.
| How does this work? I need to get 10/10 tips then do 1 more and I become a rogue or I become a hero? Which one? |
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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You need to get 10 of these: 
And then a Rogue Alignment switching mission tip will drop for you.
Once you get to 10/10 on the Rogue meter, the next tip that drops should be a Rogue Alignment mission. Once you complete this mission, you will become a Rogue and can visit Paragon City.
In the Isles, you will continue to get Villain/Rogue tips that will allow you to switch back to villain or reconfirm your Rogueness (you get 30 merits for doing this, but you can only get the merits once).
In Paragon City, you will get Hero tips that would allow you to complete the swap from villain to hero, if you desire.
At no time will you be forced to switch alignments, though. Filling the meter to 10/10 will only unlock the appropriate alignment mission, not switch you. You can even do the alignment mission and then decline to switch alignments when it is done.
Thank you for clearing that up for me folks. I really appreciate it.
Off to get my next 4 tips.
Let me just throw this out there. Aside from a few measely TFs and the alignment power why on earth would you not want to go full hero? Redside has always been depressing and not as rewarding as blueside. Besides being a full hero or dare I say it full villain allows you to get the merits that can be used for cheaper recipes.
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Bear in mind, you can only complete five Tip missions per day, so it will take a minimum of two days to become a Rogue, and another two days to go from Rogue to Hero.
As a Rogue, you will only receive Hero Tips for defeating enemies in Paragon City (or from heroside missions).
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Believe it or don't, not everyone is in it for the money, power or prestige. Some characters, by concept, are Rogues or Vigilantes, and not Heroes or Villains.|
Originally Posted by EvilRyu
Let me just throw this out there. Aside from a few measely TFs and the alignment power why on earth would you not want to go full hero? Redside has always been depressing and not as rewarding as blueside. Besides being a full hero or dare I say it full villain allows you to get the merits that can be used for cheaper recipes.
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Since I don't feel the burning need to IO out my characters (I have over 150 characters, obsessing over their enhancements would probably kill me), I am okay with not earning A-Merits for those characters who are Rogues or Vigilantes and needing to use other means to get those recipes, should I desire them.
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Sparks & Steel (level 5-20 Heroic arc)
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So you want to join the Skulls? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
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My character that I'm doing this is already complete set with all his IO sets. Only thing he needs now is to slowly replace things with some of the purple sets I want, which I don't think I have much alternatives on how to get those.|
Originally Posted by EvilRyu
Let me just throw this out there. Aside from a few measely TFs and the alignment power why on earth would you not want to go full hero? Redside has always been depressing and not as rewarding as blueside. Besides being a full hero or dare I say it full villain allows you to get the merits that can be used for cheaper recipes.
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The reason I am going to stay rogue for now is that I want to be able to access all the TFs and SFs and all the exploration badges. Once I'm done with all the stuff on redside, I'll finally switch over to blue and complete the stuff I couldn't normally do as a rogue.
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I have several of those. I still don't understand why I should get lower rewards for playing them.
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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Believe it or don't, not everyone is in it for the money, power or prestige. Some characters, by concept, are Rogues or Vigilantes, and not Heroes or Villains.
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This isn't quite correct. The first time you do a Rogue/Vigilante Morality Mission, you will only get 30 reward merits. Any additional time after that will net you 60 reward merits.
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Originally Posted by CarminaGadelica
In the Isles, you will continue to get Villain/Rogue tips that will allow you to switch back to villain or reconfirm your Rogueness (you get 30 merits for doing this, but you can only get the merits once).
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Because the devs want their to be consequences for switching sides. Full heroes and Villains get higher rewards but are restricted to a single faction while Rogues and Vigilantes have the freedom to access both factions at the price of lower rewards.|
Originally Posted by rsclark
I have several of those. I still don't understand why I should get lower rewards for playing them.
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You don't have to like it tho.
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Forgive me for not believing you.|
Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
Ok, I don't understand this. I've done searches on the forums for tips, rogue, vigilante, switch sides, etc. and I can't seem to find my answer.
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Guide to Going Rogue's Morality System - In plain English. ( http://tinyurl.com/GRMorality ) There is a link in my signature as well.
It is in the Guide to Guides in the Player Guides section.
In addition, I know I (and others) have posted the GR Morality System guide in a few threads in this section:
Villain To Rogue
Tips System, alignments and other questions!
And those are just the recent threads in this section.
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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
I am a villain currently which started as a praetorian. I want to become a hero. (I mainly started out as a praetorian to see the content and went villain, because I wanted to unlock a patron power before switching) now I want to go rogue and stay rogue.
How do I do this? I know I need to do tips missions and I'm currently at 6/10 tips complete on rogue alignment. I'm worried if I do 10/10 I'll become a hero rather than a rogue. How does this work? I need to get 10/10 tips then do 1 more and I become a rogue or I become a hero? Which one? |
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Forgive me for not believing you.
Guide to Going Rogue's Morality System - In plain English. ( http://tinyurl.com/GRMorality ) There is a link in my signature as well. It is in the Guide to Guides in the Player Guides section. In addition, I know I (and others) have posted the GR Morality System guide in a few threads in this section: Villain To Rogue Tips System, alignments and other questions! And those are just the recent threads in this section. Read the "Guide to Going Rogue's Morality System - In plain English." |
I also, guess I was simply to suppose to randomly come across one of your posts somewhere and discover your guide.
My question was answered quickly and politely by others and I thank them for it. Your "help" wasn't needed or wanted the way you put it.
Furthermore, your post, now, is only good for someone else having the same problem in the future.
Too bad you couldn't do it without the condescension.
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Ah, because you are such a unique and special snowflake that it doesn't matter if others have the same issue as you did?|
Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
Forgive me for not forgiving you. Those searches came up with either no results or nothing I could find in the first few pages.
I also, guess I was simply to suppose to randomly come across one of your posts somewhere and discover your guide. My question was answered quickly and politely by others and I thank them for it. Your "help" wasn't needed or wanted the way you put it. Furthermore, your post, now, is only good for someone else having the same problem in the future. Too bad you couldn't do it without the condescension. |
Anyway, the Guide to Guides is pretty good at listing the guides in Player Guides.
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You have interpreted that in a different context.|
Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Ah, because you are such a unique and special snowflake that it doesn't matter if others have the same issue as you did?
Anyway, the Guide to Guides is pretty good at listing the guides in Player Guides. |
I was stating that was the only thing useful about his post, in that it'll hopefully help someone else. But it's intent toward me was simply to patronize.
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Then you aren't narrowing your searches properly.|
Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
Forgive me for not forgiving you. Those searches came up with either no results or nothing I could find in the first few pages.
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That guide is in the first page of results for the following searches:
- Keyword(s): tips
Search in Forum(s): Player Guides
. - Keyword(s): rogue
Search in Forum(s): Player Guides
. - Keyword(s): vigilante
Search in Forum(s): Player Guides
. - Keyword(s): "switch sides"
Search in Forum(s): Player Guides
- Keyword(s), search title only: Villain Rogue
Search in Forum(s): All open forums
. - Keyword(s), search title only: "Tips System"
Search in Forum(s): All open forums
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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
I also, guess I was simply to suppose to randomly come across one of your posts somewhere and discover your guide.
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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
Your "help" wasn't needed or wanted the way you put it.
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How to search the forums - Memphis_Bill
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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
Too bad you couldn't do it without the condescension.
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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
I was stating that was the only thing useful about his post, in that it'll hopefully help someone else. But it's intent toward me was simply to patronize.
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Full hero gives you fewer options. Rogues and Vigilantes can visit both sides and do all task/strike forces.
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu
Let me just throw this out there. Aside from a few measely TFs and the alignment power why on earth would you not want to go full hero?
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You have a funny way of being helpful, you can't leave out that condesending crap.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Then you aren't narrowing your searches properly.
That guide is in the first page of results for the following searches:
I post enough in player questions, guides, and the announcement areas that you probably have stumbled onto one of my posts. I don't know, you still might need this: How to search the forums - Memphis_Bill The problem I had with your post is that the information you claimed wasn't there was, in fact, available. No, the intent was to tell you that whatever you think you were doing with your searches, you were doing it wrong. Additionally, when similar posts appeared within the last few weeks in this section, saying that you've looked is false. |
Yeah, turns out I don't know how to use the search function that well and some of those links are helpful. However, I did look and came up with less than stellar results and if you don't believe that, screw you.
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Not once did the OP say that the information wasn't there. What they DID say is that they couldn't find it when they searched. So calling them a liar and saying they didn't actually looked simply because they said they didn't find the information is a pretty jacked up thing to do, especially since now it is you that is spreading falsehoods.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Additionally, when similar posts appeared within the last few weeks in this section, saying that you've looked is false.
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I did a search myself and came up with very little. I did stumble on this thread which, as the OP also stated, had information that helped me in it. What I did not find with that search was any of the threads you linked to in this thread. Are you going to call me a liar, and say that I never actually looked too? Or do you think that you might be able to accept that someone else's search-fu is not necessarily as good as yours?
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Kind of parroting what others have said.
But basically, the Fame meter is your gauge as to how many more missions you can do to accrue alignment points. Every alignment mission earns you 1 piece of fame and 1 alignment point. The trick is that you cannot earn alignment points if you have a maxed fame meter (5). You have to wait for the fame to fade before you can earn more, which, as said, takes 20 hours per fame point. So assuming you do 5 in a row you still have to wait a full day to do the remaining 5 and then you'll need 1 more tip to do the Morality mission.
The system goes in a cycle too. Hero -> Vigilante -> Villain -> Rogue -> Hero ad naseum. You can't go backwards either, You can never go from Hero to Rogue or from Villain to Vigilante directly.
Just read up on this last night actually, working to re-affirm one Hero and move a fresh Praetorian Villain over to Rogue.
I will have to say it does seem like there could be a few extra goodies or content for doing the 'inbetween' alignments. Maybe some alignment only contacts or something. It just seems kind of odd there don't really seem to be any 'inbetween' factions either, everyone is pretty squarely divided up between hero/villain lines besides the couple co-op groups.
I guess they figure it's a matter of quantity vs quality, but it still seems like they could toss in some more incentives.
Ok, I don't understand this. I've done searches on the forums for tips, rogue, vigilante, switch sides, etc. and I can't seem to find my answer.
I am a villain currently which started as a praetorian. I want to become a hero. (I mainly started out as a praetorian to see the content and went villain, because I wanted to unlock a patron power before switching) now I want to go rogue and stay rogue.
How do I do this?
I know I need to do tips missions and I'm currently at 6/10 tips complete on rogue alignment. I'm worried if I do 10/10 I'll become a hero rather than a rogue.
How does this work? I need to get 10/10 tips then do 1 more and I become a rogue or I become a hero? Which one?