Why I hate the new Tutorial

There's a reason that game went F2P two years after it was released and it isn't because it was successful. So sorry to disappoint you but it was never a threat to this game.

Uhm . . . What damage? You can't die in the tutorial.

you can't die, but you still take damage

No 2 years. Just long enough to give people that bought lifetime subs the illusion that they would have spent the same amount if they had paid monthly subs instead.


Edit: The same thing is happening with their Space MMO.

I'll have to pay more attention the next time. I've been doing the tutorial only using brawl on auto attack while reading a book.

When you can't go below 1hp, there's no point in avoiding any damage. There are no negative effects at all apart from a brief knockdown from any attacks that toons suffer in the tutorial. The health bar might as well just have 'INVINCIBLE!!!' written on it.

If NOT avoiding damage sent you to the hospital, maybe there'd be a lesson there.

Eco.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow [The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

No actually I started reading "The Saga of Seven Suns" by Kevin J. Anderson when the headstart launched and I'm halfway thru book 6 as we speak.

*gasp!* How alien and incomprehensible this must sound to you but NOT EVERYONE SPENDS THE FIRST TEN MINUTES IN-GAME SETTING UP THEIR KEYBINDS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NEW TO THE GAME AND HAVE NO GLOBAL CHAT CHANNELS TO PUT UP, UNLIKELY TO HAVE PARAGON REWARDS, OR ANYMORE THAN HALF A TRAY'S WORTH OF POWERS!

Seriously, I've got global channel tab setups I need to do and powers to arrange, and even I'm not moaning about this.

Don't like that you have to spend time setting up and missing out on the action?



Or here's another, alien and out there suggestion: go and play the tutorial and wait on setup until AFTER you're out of the tutorial.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

Stupid customers usually have multiple credit cards :P

Which is yet another design flaw that should be addressed.

Or here's another even more alien suggestion to me - don't play that waste of space and skip the tutorial altogether. It doesn't teach anyone anything, it's not fun, it's not exciting and it's not well done. I'd rather beat up random Skulls and Hellions in the streets than get through that hectic mess a second time.

I didn't like the "alien invasion" tutorial in Champions Online and I don't like it any more in City of Heroes.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Are you able to think clearly? I understand you don't like the fact you don't have access to the old tutorials, but you're being really stubborn for no reason.

Whether you can die or not, you are still learning something and you CANNOT disprove that.

Not for very long.

You're 0 from 4

True, but I do prefer using the tutorial inspirations (singular now) as my start up capital on my characters over using other characters as ATM's.

-learn how to move
-learn how to target
-learn how to train

you don't like it, got'cha, but don't be obtuse.

No, it's not possible. You don't get the contact for reaching the minimum level, you get it for training to the minimum level.

You also learn how to jump, how to talk to contacts, and how to use the store.

That's kind of a veteran thing, though, and speaking as a veteran, I have that power which generates three medium or often even large inspirations every 30 minutes.

All of which I learn from Pop-up Tips that pop up regardless of whether I'm in a tutorial or not. The first time I jump, the game tells me how to jump. The first time I target an enemy, the game tells me how to target enemies. The first time I take damage, the game tells me about hit points. The first time I run out of endurance, I'm told about endurance management tools. I know all of these because I constantly neglect to turn off Pop Tips and I see those pop up over and over again on every damn character I play, new or old.

And I wouldn't call this being taught how to train, because the actual process of training up is not complex. Where people fail the most is being able to locate their trainers in the overworld, not knowing that they can use their map and what the icon for trainers is. This is something the old tutorial didn't teach, either, as I've seen at least a few people get to level 6 without realising they could train up to get more powers. I recall a person who got to level 20-ish not knowing that he could slot more than one of any type of enhancement, which I still haven't seen explained anywhere, in the new game or the old, or indeed in the old Manual, which shows a power 5-slotted with five different enhancements.

Let me reverse the question on you: What do you learn in the tutorial that you wouldn't have learned through Pop Help tips if you'd skipped it?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

And it sets players up for the Coming Storm storyline right from the start, which will help to make their 1-50 progress flow neatly into the Incarnate system - it sets up a nice "unfinished business" feel for when we finally get to fight the Shivans again, which is also what the introduction of the loyalists in Twinshot's arcs does.