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Who is nuke-able?

Anti_Proton

By Anti_Proton,
Posted on: 2011-08-29 20:37 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture

 

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To be fair, his creators didn't either, since nuclear weapons hadn't been invented at the time.
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Quite true, also after having rewatched Batman/Superman Public Enemies, I wonder if Captain Marvel could take a nuke, since Batman blasted him with a missile and he was on the ground but back in the form of Billy Batson who was wounded. (still funny though when Batman tries to wake him and says "Say something!" "SHAZAM!")
I was going to say something along the lines of it being a moot point, since he was considerably more powerful by the time of the first test detonations of a working atomic weapon, but I just left it, since we were looking at how various versions of the character would stand up to a nuke.

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Looking at Hugo Danner's story, though, I would assume that a nuke would have killed the very early version of Superman that seems to be an analog of him, since Danner himself was killed by a lightning bolt.

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I just remembered how they killed Wolverine in the Ultimate universe... Someone drowned him. Basically, the idea is as long as you don't destroy the part of the brain that causes the regen and it has enough time to regen Wolverine, Sabertooth, X-23, and Dakin? (Wolverine's Son) will all regen from anything... So Assumedly as long his brain is attached to a lung or his regen is fast enough (ie within several minutes) he will survive.

Which makes no sense considering that they BEHEADED Wolverine for a time in the Ultimates universe and he STILL lived. His "body" adapted by absorbing oxygen.


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There's also Mr. Immortal.

Technically he'd "die". But after a couple minutes, up he'd pop. Alive again.


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The Juggernaut, when he's properly unstoppable.


 

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One alternate timeline version of Kang the Conqueror as I recall set off a nuke right next to himself to kill the Avengers and came out of the blast laughing.

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Anybody with the Star Brand.
He also fought a gray guy who called himself Gladiator who had survived several nuclear strikes from the Soviets.

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It depends on who the writer is as well as the character. In the graphic novel "Future Imperfect", the Hulk when he was intelligent, faced his future evil self the Maestro. Maestro said that he survived WW3 by not being at ground zero of the nuclear blasts. The fallout only made him more powerful. At the end of the story, the Maestro was sent into the past next to the same bomb that created him (when he was Hulk) and was destroyed by it. He was at the time jacked up by anger enough to beat the Hulk nearly to death.

 

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I think the cartoons is where 'graceful leaping' gradually morphed into flying as well.
Correct. It was a money-saving device. Fleischer was one of the most important animation studios at the time, but it still needed to save money on production whenever possible. Having Superman leap from place to place would have required animations of him crouching, stretching, and springing, as well as arcing through the leaps themselves, while flying could be depicted primarily by his remaining stationary while the background moves behind him. (I learned this from the well-researched Was Superman a Spy?, about "comic book urban legends," by Brian Cronin.)

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I believe one of the other reasons was narrative. Having him go from Metropolis to Africa to save Lois by hopping there would have been quite a ways into the realm of the absurd in a 10 minute short.

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Pfft. None of these "super powers" can compete with the real life durability of NINTENDIUM:

 

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I believe one of the other reasons was narrative. Having him go from Metropolis to Africa to save Lois by hopping there would have been quite a ways into the realm of the absurd in a 10 minute short.
But it would have been funny to see him go...

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who beat up Wolvie with a stick?

4 part mini series.

Arguably the best Wolverine story ever.

 

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4 part mini series.

Arguably the best Wolverine story ever.
Well that story was back in the early days long before his healing power reached Galactus levels

Seriously though I enjoyed that mini and still do, but wasn't Wolverine poisoned or drugged up in that first fight where he got beaten by the wooden sword? Can't recall and the issues are boxed up in storage.

 

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Wouldn't Havok (Alex Summers) survive it? I think I remember a story when he survived a nuclear meltdown, a mini series with Wolverine in the 90's. Supposedly he's immune to heat and can absorve radiation, so unless the direct shockwave broke his neck or something he'd probably come out alive.

I'd also add Jenny Sparks, Invincible, Sephiroth and Savage Dragon to the nukable individuals. Not sure about Lavos, though

 

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Alex is immune to Scott's powers which are solar energy based or "fusion based" which i think gives off more energy than fission, but not positive so maybe...also it might be that both Scott and Alex would be immune to Superman's Heat vision as it is solar powered.

 

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Alex is immune to Scott's powers which are solar energy based or "fusion based" which i think gives off more energy than fission, but not positive so maybe...also it might be that both Scott and Alex would be immune to Superman's Heat vision as it is solar powered.
Being brothers they are immune to each other's power, and I think it was shown (rarely) that when they work together their combined energies are greater then the sum of the parts.

Banshee (Sean Cassidy) and his brother Black Tom Cassidy also are immune to each others powers.

 

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Sure you don't mean late 80s? That sounds like the Man of Steel downgrade by Byrne. The 70s supes was pretty cosmic. They did cut him down a bit once, but it wasn't by as much as Byrne (there was a story arc featuring The Sand Superman in which his power was siphoned off some and never returned).
I'm sure. Back in the late 70's when DC relaunched the Justice Society and introduced Power Girl as the Earth 2 version of Supergirl, she and her cousin were both depowered back to the point of even only being able to leap long distances.

They were both brought back up to the level of the Earth-1 super family when Roy Thomas came in and took over the Earth-2 heroes in the early 80's.

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