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They didn't even want to make those, if you recall. Jay was very against making any "furry" costume pieces. :-/
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Monstrous legs were part of the game before Jay worked here. Don't rewrite history please.
"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
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Yep. I'm sure that's what they said. I even double checked my notes about the name while writing my original post because I know the name is already used in the game.
Are you sure that's what they said that was for? I ask because we have Vahzilok mobs called Abominations, and my first impression looking at that pic was that they gave them the CoT costume revamp treatment.
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They did say he's the creation of a mad scientist. Players will have to go into the mansion, fight their way to the underground lab, then fight through tunnels to get to a cemetery where the big bad guy will be.
As far as the story arc rewards, I think they're fine. The arcs are three missions that can be run solo. They shouldn't take much time and can be repeated very week for the special rewards. Sounds good to me. It currently takes ten missions and two days to get a hero/villain merit.
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If there are multiple arcs, and the reward is once per week per arc, that won't be too bad. You could conceivably finish 2-4 per week, even very casually.
As far as the story arc rewards, I think they're fine. The arcs are three missions that can be run solo. They shouldn't take much time and can be repeated very week for the special rewards. Sounds good to me. It currently takes ten missions and two days to get a hero/villain merit.
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If the reward is once per week total, instead of per arc, it's a pathetic way to progress.
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I have the feeling that this will be the case.
If the reward is once per week total, instead of per arc, it's a pathetic way to progress.
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Even if it isn't, 4 Astrals per week is still pretty pathetic and insulting.
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Yes, you can get a single slot to Tier 4 (after you've unlocked it) after only a short 384 weeks (over 7 years). |
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Once everyone was aware that imaginary money would be doled out, the items purchased, should in no way have influenced pricing or real customer/player needs/wants. I don't know if someone in marketing wasn't aware that many of the Beta players aren't idiots, but ..yea..we're not. Don't draw conclusions based on that data. You want to get real data, inform the participants about the rules and reset a buy item test time on Beta.
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In regards to the top sellers from Beta, if they draw any conclusion that people want enhancement boosters, I'll be horrified. |
Barbarian set, looks decent for guys, though I did see the old shield in there, which was kind of a downer, but i'm still digging it. Outfit for female alts need to be..added to.Lots of suggestions in the thread and we got some time before i121 goes Live =].
Sig. story arc rewards- 1 astral per week. Yea that needs so much of a re-think, I'm not even gonna start to say where my mind went and I'm a guy who runs trials like they're going out of style on Live, so it's not a big downer for me, but I've got friends who don't and that..well it just bites.
Here's the little touch of frustration that's been building for me. I don't like getting annoyed at the game I LOVE.
In the items produced and direction the game has been goin for a bit, has me underwhelmed and a tad disappointed because I think that one of the best selling points for the game ..is the GAME. Yes, the Community is great and I always hear that as COH's selling point, but I don't come here to only chat ...I happen to love the game,from story to powers to reward and teaming /solo system.
There are other F2Pish games out there that can afford , I gather, to put enough resources into core items which directly appeal to their player base, more than not and it seems that in the COH marketing shpiel/ vibe that we've heard recently is ''..the industry does X and we're all friends so, we'll staying unique ,so here's new stuff that's from us!". But we're putting out the same stuff the Other game is and we're doing less of it. I personally choose to believe that's due to working in too small a design chamber, but that's me. Granted the..Other has had more time since going F2P, so maybe i'm just getting impatient.
I don't think our team is getting enough resources to actually be a real leader in this are and we're content to follow along, because we've got an 'older engine ..yadda yadda'.I don't know if anyone's told you guys, but some folks think our game world looks frikking cool and it plays pretty well too. I know I do. I want to see our team lead the charge and get out of the Other's shadow with respect to art design for player items, in particular.
So I just realised I had a bit of a rant...um.Yea. So yay i21 and get more resources allocated to the Art team, start writing memos and justifications, chop chop =p.
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I for one like the fur lined bits. Been wanting some variety other than santa boots and gerrymandered magic bolero shoulders for some time for some of my characters. SO on that note I'm happy to see these teases.
Sooo.. Ummm...
Can someone tell me why the female "barbarian" outfit just looks like a kinky santa suit? Seriously, devs... If you guys really want to know what your standard female barbarian look is meant to be like, just google "Red Sonja"... |
Also pleased about the male barbarian bits.
The GOOD thing about Freedom though is that if there is a palpable enough demand from friends for them to say do the labor to recreate these parts for the female model (the more butch barbarian bits), then they can without needing a Barbarian 2 Booster Pack or some nonsense. Stuff can in general can be revisited more easily from a business standpoint. And to that point, I hope they do. Even if female model versions of what is shown as male barbarian bits are NOT available at first release of these sets, I hope they do come back and port them over for female characters as well.
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Touch of devil's advocacy here:
I'm going to chime in with the others who've already said so and agree that one Astral every seven days is pathetic.
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- These arcs are for VIP customers or premiums can buy 'em for Paragon Bucks, right?
- We've already been told that each of these arcs will be available in perpetuity if you purchase it or remain a VIP subscriber
- IF (and big IF) this reward table is every 7 days PER signature arc, it actually becomes a bit more reasonable. Similarly it encourages rotating through the content instead of turbo-farming one or two. i.e. 5 arcs are out, 5 astral merits a week.
Again just playing devil's advocate while trying to get inside the logic of this rewards design.
Looks like one of the baggy tops with the Mesh overlay. I did something similar with the Tights Sleek + Scales overlay. You just have to find the right colors.
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Despite what many forum-goers believe, our development team isn't full of idiots. I'm fairly confident that they realize people will likely exhibit different spending habits once they have a limited amount of Paragon Points or actually have to pay real money to acquire them.
Oh boy.
I hope they aren't actually thinking of using the purchase data on beta as some kind of indicator of what people will spend their money on when it goes live. When I'm using play money I'm not really too concerned with what I'm spending it on. My real-life cash? That's another matter. I doubt I'm alone in that. |
Positron: "There are no bugs [in City of Heroes], just varying degrees of features."
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- IF (and big IF) this reward table is every 7 days PER signature arc, it actually becomes a bit more reasonable. Similarly it encourages rotating through the content instead of turbo-farming one or two. i.e. 5 arcs are out, 5 astral merits a week.
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This is actually to you and Johnny both.
It looks to me like we'd be better off accepting the 10 threads. 1 Astral is only 4 threads. For actual progress through incarnate powers, the Astrals are less useful. The Astral store doesn't offer anything that moves you up through the incarnate tiers, just cosmetics and some IOs.
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Yea, silly me, I thought I was beta testing the different features, not giving them marketing data.
Oh boy.
I hope they aren't actually thinking of using the purchase data on beta as some kind of indicator of what people will spend their money on when it goes live. When I'm using play money I'm not really too concerned with what I'm spending it on. My real-life cash? That's another matter. I doubt I'm alone in that. |
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And the way in which she does so is? Just go look at her attitude toward people who want that solo/small team path. I've read enough of Lisa's reactions to her (and, frankly, her own posts for long enough) that I think the reply was spot on. I can't imagine her reaction to an invite from Golden Girl would be any more positive than an invite to dinner from someone who punches you in the nose twice a day would be for anyone else.
You know what strikes me about the posts in this and most other threads? When I see Golden Girl post snarky remarks, it's almost always about certain principles and ideas, not personal attacks against people themselves.
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So it looks, to me, like the characterization was spot on.
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I've also played with her in-game, and she's been nothing but nice and very competent and skillful, a pleasure to be around. |
Are we talking about the same person?
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And what is barbarian? Do you think that barbarian men historically actually went around dressed like Conan? |
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Of course, the game is not realistic, it is based on comic books. For those complaining about the costumes we're getting being skimpy, sexy, or totally impractical, is this really what you'd prefer? I mean, this is your pretty stereotypical comic book female barbarian. Besides, we can already make those kinds of "barbarian" costumes. |
The requests seem to be less "Santa's Naughty Helper" and more, oh, skins, leather armor, that sort of thing. Seeing if I can find images:
SOmeone cosplaying at comic con 2007:
![](http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/gentletouch11440/default/barbarian-woman-comic-con-2007--large-msg-118728126345.jpg)
More leather:
![](http://theblackboxoffice.com/wp-content/uploads/gracejoneszula.jpg)
Even going to the bikini, something rougher-made instead of the dinky lines:
![](http://www.fantasyartfanatics.com/uploads/5/7/6/1/576134/2654402.jpg)
or the classic:
![](http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/CarlyZuckerLynx_450x350.jpg)
Bulking it up some:
![](http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/femalebarbarian.jpg)
Looking like someone's shooting for more "stereotypical native" type:
![](http://www.out-online.com/conceptart/barbarian.female.concept.jpg)
Or this, since we're looking at higher boots too:
![](http://www.warriors-wizards.com/pictures/albums/female%20warriors/normal_David%20Hudnut%20-%20Female%20Barbarian%20Champion.jpg)
... none of which could be mistaken for "santa's helper."
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Which still puts 1 week on par with a 30 minute trial (not even counting the emp or thread drops) that can then be repeated immediately for the same number of astrals. It's a pathetic reward.
Touch of devil's advocacy here:
- These arcs are for VIP customers or premiums can buy 'em for Paragon Bucks, right? - We've already been told that each of these arcs will be available in perpetuity if you purchase it or remain a VIP subscriber - IF (and big IF) this reward table is every 7 days PER signature arc, it actually becomes a bit more reasonable. Similarly it encourages rotating through the content instead of turbo-farming one or two. i.e. 5 arcs are out, 5 astral merits a week.. |
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The development team were caught off guard by the demand for an incarnate solo path and all instantly fell in love with the new CoT design, so they aren't exactly geniuses either.
Despite what many forum-goers believe, our development team isn't full of idiots. I'm fairly confident that they realize people will likely exhibit different spending habits once they have a limited amount of Paragon Points or actually have to pay real money to acquire them.
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Despite what many forum-goers believe, our development team isn't full of idiots. I'm fairly confident that they realize people will likely exhibit different spending habits once they have a limited amount of Paragon Points or actually have to pay real money to acquire them.
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The development team were caught off guard by the demand for an incarnate solo path and all instantly fell in love with the new CoT design, so they aren't exactly geniuses either.
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Of course, there are 2 games coming out this fall/winter that I am really looking forward to buying, one of which is an MMO. I look forward to seeing how well it caters to my play style (casual and solo and story-oriented).
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You don't have to be an idiot to make idiotic decisions.
Despite what many forum-goers believe, our development team isn't full of idiots.
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The dev team has made plenty of mistakes and missteps. Some they get around to fixing sooner than others. Some they just ignore.
I'd rather they got Enhancement Boosters, their pricing and their effectiveness right the first time. They've yet to indicate they are going to, because the prices haven't changed to reflect the feedback despite this going Live being "imminent". Yes they still have time to change it, but continued concern until they actually do is justified.
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And historically they thought SOs (and HOs) would be rare, as opposed to having builds full of them, and weren't prepared for what people did with IOs (softcapping *blasters,* for instance.) So it's not like it's a recent trend.
The development team were caught off guard by the demand for an incarnate solo path and all instantly fell in love with the new CoT design, so they aren't exactly geniuses either.
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Yeah, slightly less metal (like the arm) - but the overall ragged look and such fits.
Just like I did with the magic pack, the steampunk pack, etc.