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I'd like to see a source of that, personally, as that's not how I remember it. As I recall, the reason they didn't redo the Rikti War Zone geometry was PRECISELY because it would save them a ton of time which they could then spend making the Rikti Base tileset, artwork for the new NPCs, new contacts and so on. That was the point of Melissa's "We could either do the zone or do the story and we chose to do the story" comment.
The Devs are on record that the RCS --> RWZ was almost as much work as creating a new zone from scratch and repurposing the old zone didn't save them significant amount of time and work. Same with Faultline.
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I have a hard time comprehending how doing that AND making a brand new zone from scratch could have been pretty much the same as just doing that and leaving the zone unchanged.
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If my memory serves, I recall someone telling the devs that in-person and the reply was that there *are* actual women in the art group that makes costumes. Assuming there aren't any is actually a dangerous presumption in a lot of ways.
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It's like they assume that just because an outfit looks like "OMG! The physics wouldn't work and a RL woman wouldn't wear that?" that a woman artist can't think "This would be awesome! This would look great! This would look cute! This would..." ect ect
If my memory serves, I recall someone telling the devs that in-person and the reply was that there *are* actual women in the art group that makes costumes. Assuming there aren't any is actually a dangerous presumption in a lot of ways.
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So there was mention of quick snapshots of either the Gunslinger outfit(s) or the new backpacks.. Have said snapshots been posted yet?
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Honestly? I'd let Arcana attest to that in person. Or not attest to it, if that is what Arcana chooses.
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Honestly? I'd let Arcana attest to that in person. Or not attest to it, if that is what Arcana chooses.
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I mean a source of the original quote. I don't mean to be a dick here and go "Pics or it didn't happen!" but I remember that post from War Witch and I don't remember it going like that. Do we have it recorded somewhere so I can refresh my memory? Because I honestly do recall her saying that the development team at the time intentionally didn't do almost anything in the zone specifically as a means of saving time and money so that they could get the other things done.
If a not doing a total revamp of the zone from scratch didn't save much effort, why didn't it happen? Wouldn't that mean it wouldn't have been much effort to do it?
If a not doing a total revamp of the zone from scratch didn't save much effort, why didn't it happen? Wouldn't that mean it wouldn't have been much effort to do it?
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Are you honestly trying to imply Tunnel Rat said "oooh, flouncy fur-trimmed mini-skirt! Brilliant!" LOL Actually, I'm pretty sure she's said repeatedly that she doesn't have anything to do with costumes, just effects.
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Quite frankly, a number of different devs said this a number of different times so consistently, that I find it odd you remember it differently. If you remember a dev saying it was relatively easy, then *you* find that quote.
I mean a source of the original quote. I don't mean to be a dick here and go "Pics or it didn't happen!" but I remember that post from War Witch and I don't remember it going like that. Do we have it recorded somewhere so I can refresh my memory? Because I honestly do recall her saying that the development team at the time intentionally didn't do almost anything in the zone specifically as a means of saving time and money so that they could get the other things done.
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They also bring it up everytime requests for zone revamps are made
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Fair enough. We both know I don't have one. And again - I wasn't saying you prove what you're saying is true. It's just so different from what I remember that I... Don't get it, honestly.
Quite frankly, a number of different devs said this a number of different times so consistently, that I find it odd you remember it differently. If you remember a dev saying it was relatively easy, then *you* find that quote.
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I remember Melissa saying the chose no to redo the War Zone because they didn't have the resources to do it, and I remember Matt Miller saying that revamping an old zone is as expensive as making a new zone, but at the time he was referring to the Faultline revamp which WAS a new zone. I simply have a hard time understanding how making a whole new zone and NOT making a whole new zone can be relatively the same amount of effort when making a new zone has always been said to be a lot of effort.
Again, I'm not doubting your word, I just can't make sense of this in light of what I remember. It's possible I remember wrong, it's possible you're referring to posts I never saw. I could well just be wrong. But it's difficult for me to just conclude I've been remembering this wrong for how many years now?
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Thanks for posting info from pax. Power is out where I am still(4days).
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