What is your position on untyped damage in Incarnate content?

Actually, I have less issue with untyped damage applying equally to any build than I do with it applying the same way to all characters regardless of Incarnate "Levels", if any. For example, a 50 should be taking the full damage, while a 50 (+1) should take at least slightly less.

Just my opinion, of course, but the flat-rate damage kind of flies in the face of the logic of being an Incarnate in the first place, to me.

Eventually people will realize that the OP is on a personal crusade, and disagreeing with him is pointless.

For the record, I have no problem with challenges that don't care how much influence you throw at them. <.<

Case in point.

I see the two problems the OP has with the second one being more important

1) If you have capped defense how can something still be guaranteed to hit you

2) Why is it a HP capped tank has more HP taken away than another AT that is less survivable.

The 1st issue I'm ok with as an overwhelming attack is reasonable and fits thematically in a game, superhero lore, and reality. If every particle in a given area is hit it shouldn't be avoided. As mentioned the warnings make up for this.

The second issue I somewhat agree with as it's a scenario where damage is scaled depending on how much you have, I mentioned earlier that removing the OHKO +1hp rule would fix this problem (originally I said it jokingly but I don't think it's a bad idea). What people would hate about the removal of the rule would be how much the devs thought the attack should do damage wise.

If we take Nova Fist and change it to 2000 damage, anything without +hp dies and only a handful of ATs can build to survive it. Just as the OP sees no point to allow the game to "cheat" which as has been stated the rule for untyped damage has been in place since the beginning I see no point to allow a character at full health to not be one shotted, we can one shot them are we cheating?

I think there's a sort of tradeoff.

It's obviously desireable to be able to ensure that something is SOME kind of threat, and people with 85-90% resists are of course not much threatened.

If I were trying to solve this, I think what I'd probably do is make the damage, say, half unresistable and half resistable of some normalish type, so that resistances provided some benefit, but not as much benefit. So if a 1k attack was doing, say, 650 damage instead of 100 damage to a res-capped tanker...

I think it's a fine mechanic. Still have to have some vulnerability. If you want to have your planet cracking invulnerable incarnate, I understand that, but it would only be fun for so long. Not to mention we still have 5 incarnate slots to get.

Entanglement always kind of disappointed me. I largely ignore it (I play melee types, it may threaten ranged more, IDK). Now if they did something like: the AV has an aura, if you attack the AV in the aura you are delt the same damage as you do to it and are resitant to the AV's attacks to some degree, if any, while the aura is in effect (could make it up all the time). When you jump back out of the aura, you are healed 80% of that damage and posibly discharging that as a form of attack to deal the AV additional damage. If you dont do the in-and-out thing (lol) and stay ranged during your assult, you will not have the benefit of the heal and have to wait and heal or be healed traditionally. And it shall be called the Boundary of Suffering: all suffering that happens within must be accounted for.

I really haven't had time to keep track of this thread but every time I see the title I have the urge to post this response:

"My Position on Untyped Damage? Why, Untyped of course."

I remember when Vahz puke damage was untyped. So much fun!

Or not. But I don't do the trials so my opinion is neither here nor there.