/regen got buffed. Cats and dogs live in happiness.

Idea: there are 3 passives in /regen, right? the passive healing, passive recovery and resilience (sorry cant think right now). Would it be possible that those passive be given scaling Recharge Debuff Resistance in a manner analogus to /SR's DDR but here you slot heal, end mod, and resist (or heck make it rech enh to make u think about slotting)?

Dunno, just a thought.

Edit: come to think of it; maybe only one power could be the subject of the RDR: Reconstruction, so when you pop MoG or IH you could more often top yourself off.

Edit2: MT said: MoG/Shmeld/Barrier - guess noone goes for Eye of the Magnus/Demonic Aura much these days...

Edit3: six-slotted for run-on sentences FTWKTHXBAIROFLMFAO!!11ELEVENTYBi11!)N!

^^ actually, I have all Accolades. But I often forget to use those. The buffs you get from the self-mutation (booster) and the magic pack buff are nice too.

So what do people think if IH got a heal component?

I don't have much to add to this discussion. I've tested the buff and love it. I can feel the difference. The buff takes the edge off of damage. It doesn't stop it completely. Regen is about healing. It's reactive and thus not as purely survivable as a soft-capped defense set.

But the set does just fine on trials now, and will be better after this.

Tell me if Im wrong with the way I see damage mitigation mechanics: Damage comes basically in 2 forms steady dps and spikes + some secondary effect (more on that later).

Willpower: Regenerates well enough through steady damage; and, obviously, has the capability to get high enough def to get considerably less spikes of damage. Good on both counts, IMO.

Regen: *Takes all of it.* Regens through a good bit, esp with IH, and reacts through spikes via DP and recon. Has a nice contribution via MoG. The dam rez does help with steady and spike damage but spikes will come *more frequently* due to lower def so your left with making sure spike heals are up when needed. And regen is overwhelmed more frequently due to lower def. *Yet Regen also takes all of the secondary effects on the chin as well because IT WILL GET HIT.* It's supposed to. In keeping with that theme, more should have been done so that it has its tools available to do its job: regen debuff resist (even just in recon) instead of damage resist. Plus an up front heal in IH - which would be icing.

I didn't read through the whole thread to see if this was brought up, but doesn't regeneration debuff resistance affect the length of the debuff, not the magnitude?

This isn't a response to anyone in particular. I just want to address what I think may be a common misconception (or maybe I'm the one that's confused, in which case I'd like someone to set me straight).

You should be able to soft cap Regeneration, and I don't mean Katana/Regeneration. Go with a perma Hasten build. Roughly speaking, get Shadow Meld recharging in 30 seconds, Moment of Glory in 60, take Barrier, pick up Eye of the Magus.

Shadow Meld -> Moment of Glory -> Shadow Meld -> Barrier -> Shadow Meld -> Moment of Glory -> Shadow Meld -> Eye of the Magus -> Shadow Meld -> Moment of Glory -> Shadow Meld -> Barrier -> Shadow Meld -> Moment of Glory -> Shadow Meld

If I got that right, that's five solid minutes of soft cap to most types. In fact, it should be five solid minutes of incarnate soft cap if you can get yourself to 27% defense (likely), and two of those five minutes are spent at significant levels of resistance to most types. And since you're way over perma Dull Pain, keep in mind that hit points are functionally resistance, and vice versa.

Yes, you may in practice have a few seconds of gap here and there. Yes, you'll have to do something else for a little bit at the end of those five minutes. Yes, I know you wouldn't use the powers this way. On the other hand, that's because you would use them as the situation requires, which should be even more effective than endlessly cycling them. So at least in a discussion of the top end capability of Regeneration, which I think is what we're talking about, can we stop pretending that Regeneration has no mitigation, and only has heals? Yes, I know they aren't all part of your secondary. Aid Self and Rebirth aren't part of Shield Defense's secondary either, but I'm going to keep them in mind if I'm discussing the top end of what Shield Defense is capable of, or you'll find that Shield Defense isn't one of these 1000 DPS Scrappers we're talking about. You don't HAVE to pick up all those powers. But you CAN. Your Regen scrapper can be swimming in mitigation.

Am I missing something? Or are other people?

Attempt at a counterpoint other than the old and tired animation times hurt your DPS argument that I keep bringing up : being locked in a specific epic pool plus a specific destiny buff may be more significant to certain builds than being locked either in a specific power pool or specific destiny buff, or even than being locked in a specific power pool plus a specific destiny buff.

Regen has some leeway with endurance use thanks to QR and few toggles, and a build spending so much time on survivability clicks (aw damn it I brought that up even though I said I wouldn't) is unlikely to run out of endurance, so losing CP or Ageless isn't a big deal, but you're still saying bye bye to Fireball or Ball Lightning.

This won't matter one bit to someone who's main goal is mitigation or who doesn't care about AoE damage, or who's got a tiny roleplayer stuck deep inside their head despite sometimes acting otherwise and skips epic AoEs because they don't fit the concept - not that I would know about that, mind you, no sir, but I think losing FB/BL can be a concern to some people.