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If you guys are looking for an energy-damage farm (as you can easily cap energy resistance at 90% by level 20 with 2 SOs in each of your +Res owers), I made a variant of the classic "DISCO" farm (EU players should know that particular farm well) a while back for my Energy/Elec Armor brute.

It's called "Energy WarWorks in Grandville", AE ID 506582. I'd recommend +2x8 for tickets at 50, or +4x8 for inf/PLing.

Cool beans. It's working pretty good. At lev 34 atm.

I just buy all the Lucks i can. I pop 4 before i start fighting and click all the other stuff i get as i fight. I haven't died in a while. Im 38 now. I don't know how to do all the macro/bind stuff so i just click like crazy. I use the 3 claws attacks and brawl to fill. Sands seemed to be a drag in there. I couldnt even tell it was hitting or not. lol.

i was just curious for an outside build should i slot purely for recharge to get energize up asap, or try to softcap def?

also was wondering with a few of you running multiple toons to 50, if anyone would be interested in a lvl pact, i would be willing to do the same.

Got one of these to 50. Is there any point IOing it? Do the bonuses still apply when exemp'd in AE?

I hate you because I had a Claws/Elec brute before this thread was made, and now that I"m playing her, it feels like I'm jumping on the bandwagon after the fact.

However, I love you because I didn't realize what a farming fiend I had in this type of brute. Went from 27 to 35 in probably about an hour of farm time. Looking forward to getting her to 50 and using all the money I made along the way to kit her out.

UPDATE-I've run the AE arc 13 times now and am sitting at level 43!

I've found that it takes me about 35 minutes to run the arc from start to finish, including loading up on inspirations and returning from the hospital (maybe 1-2 times per arc now--usually due to unlucky insp drops or not paying attention).

I'm running this for XP rather than just tickets, so I'm clearing the ambush groups out before exiting each time.

So, we're looking at roughly 7 hours so far, with maybe another 2 to 2.5 hours to go. Not bad!

EDIT-I also have 200 million in the bank. Most has come from Rare salvage. I've had some really bad luck "investing" in Gold Random Rolls.

As a quick follow-up.

Now that my toon has reached L50, I did a number of runs solely to cap tix.

During the leveling process, an arc took 20 mins or so, but for just capping AE tickets,
I'm in the 10-15 min range (from zoning in to the first mission to clicking "Finish"
after the last mission). Each mission is definitely under two mins (in-mission).

Also, Ticket runs are a LOT easier and safer - not a single death yet doing that.


Regards,
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One thing I've never understood is the following statement: Brutes have the highest damage cap. Becasue, technically, they don't, they have the hardest to achieve (though fury helps a great deal). The -real- damage cap is found by multiplying base damage scale by percent damage cap, and scrappers actually deal slightly more damage than brutes at their damage cap.

Because scrappers need to gain less +damage to maintain their damage cap, I find them slightly easier in that regard, and by manipulating my inspirations I maintain two or three yellows and oranges and more than enough red and purple. Other posters have reported that they don't manage a large amount of +damage. It may be that a scrapper would post higher damage numbers, though they would be less survivable (it works better at 50 I think, and I think that if scrappers ever get a set comparable to SS, it will work better than the current king).

My personal farm guy is spines/fire, and he works decently. I find I don't need 90% resistance to work well, I run him at 50, and he started with very little IO enhancement (numina and miracle procs were about it). I run a 5-mish fire arc at 4/8, generally finish in about 1 and 45 seconds with a lot of tickets wasted (I get 100-200 on mission completion, so I've already generated 1300-1400 by the time I complete). Without sells, I can get a little over 70 million in an hour, though that number should be considered circumspect since I haven't tested it thoroughly. I was using bronze recipes at 10-14, but my plan was to test the other ranges once I got a large sample size for each (about 1000), so you've saved me a fair amount of trouble. Silver recipes were much less work (no deleting!), which is the main reason I used them before, but bronze are much better for actual money. The main reason to go 10-14 is the steadfast res/def, which I could instasell for 20 million or be patient and get more. At roughly 4-5 of those an arc (my average, because of the relatively small drop pool for that range), which I complete in about 11 minutes, I could get 80-100 million just from those, and a little more from smaller recipes (like the regen tissue proc). Anyway, I use that character because I had him, and he could run these types of missions without further investment, not because I knew he would be the best (he isn't, though I could speed him up quite a bit by adding +recharge and leaving the mission earlier).

Thanks for this resource. The buying guides were helpful, and I may decide to run me up one for level 10 recipes (the fire/spines scrapper is also going to be my flashback guy, so I have a need for low level recipes).

For macros, I recommend a loadfile bind that cycles between "insp_combine (tier 1 non wakies)", "insp_combine (tier 2 non wakies)", and one for deleting the various rezs (obviously those aren't the actual binds, and I'd add a tier 3 if I were running with bosses), and a second bind for using enrages. This reduces your clickage to 2 buttons, one for not-red and one for red. (fun fact: I have never, since may 2004 when I first started playing, used the F keys to activate inspirations; I either clicked what I needed or had a bind). I have enough defense that one Good Luck will cap my defenses, so I add small purples to the combine macro but not larger ones. Also, consider adding break frees to the deletion bind, because I find that they are on a slightly rarer drop scale and therefore are more likely to clog space (though this may just be conjecture). I also have a bind for targetting the closest enemy, which replaces the control+tab keybinding (for target enemy near) with a button on my mouse. This allows me to make sure I hit someone near me, not a runner, and I click it everytime I use a TAoE or cone, just to make sure the maximum source of damage is near me (because enemies will be dropped faster if they are hit by all my effects, not half). I also have a bind for a second mouse button (I have 5), for follow. I usually use this in scrapperlock, not farming (combine with first button for easy scrapperlockage). For attacks I have burn, fireball, throw spines, and spine burst for regular combat, plus consume and judgement. I try to avoid spine burst until I have to use it, it really is "sucky" because its animation time. One last thing: instead of the traditional power trays, I use 3 3*4 trays with the basic tray above them. The trays allow me to separate defenses, AoE, and single target attacks more efficiently than having multiple flat trays (and the final tray is mostly just used for temps and teleport powers), and I use the set up for all my melee characters (it is much easier than remembering where I placed everything and learning a new muscle memory set everytime I play a different character).

For me, with my high latency, I almost always get "misfires", where something above a red will get eaten along with the red that was supposed to be. I use this to keep my life and blue bar full, and lower levels would have increased acc and resistance from it, but I'm not sure it works with a faster connection. Unfortunately, this also means that I gain reduced benefit from using things before going in, because it can take north of 30 seconds to a minute to load the map (not that it always take that long, which is why I can still finish in about 11 minutes). I recently upgraded that spines/fire scrapper to a build that optimized smashing/lethal defense (32.5), not recharge, because he really doesn't need a lot and he still isn't primarily a farmer.

I get the macro swallowing extra inspirations a lot as well, my latency varies a bit and packets gets lost a few times an hour. It probably is lag related. It is most likely that the macro functions locally, it searches the tray for what you want to use. Finds it, notes the slot number and sends that along to the server. Now the server receives a ton of these requests and uses the inspiration in the slot, but before the client notices it, it sends another request to use the inspiration to the server with the same slot number, the server has now moved another inspiration into that slot and then uses that.

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Originally Posted by Combat One thing I've never understood is the following statement: Brutes have the highest damage cap. Becasue, technically, they don't, they have the hardest to achieve (though fury helps a great deal). The -real- damage cap is found by multiplying base damage scale by percent damage cap, and scrappers actually deal slightly more damage than brutes at their damage cap. Because scrappers need to gain less +damage to maintain their damage cap, I find them slightly easier in that regard, and by manipulating my inspirations I maintain two or three yellows and oranges and more than enough red and purple. Other posters have reported that they don't manage a large amount of +damage. It may be that a scrapper would post higher damage numbers, though they would be less survivable (it works better at 50 I think, and I think that if scrappers ever get a set comparable to SS, it will work better than the current king).

But at low levels they do indeed have the highest damage cap.
Can't work with Claws for this example since they have different recharge values and different base damage as a result.

I already brought this up in a previous post, but I'll just repeat it here:
Take Dual Blades:
Typhoon's Edge
Brute: 10.83 dmg, resulting in: 10.83 * 7.75 = 83,93 dmg
Scrapper: 11.68 dmg, resulting in: 11.68 *2.1 = 24,53 dmg

As you can see at these levels Brutes have a LOT more damage than a scrapper, even at slightly lower damage levels they will out damage scrappers, this will continue until higher levels where the modifiers stops being inflated.

Even with just Fury at level 1 a Brute will out damage a scrapper at damage cap.
Brute: 10.83 dmg, resulting in: 10.83 * 2.6 = 28,16 dmg
Scrapper: 11.68 dmg, resulting in: 11.68 *2.1 = 24,53 dmg

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I've been running this arc using a SS/elec brute. Its obviously not as effective as a claws/ela brute due to the lack of spin or any AoE damage at this low of level. Still, I'm leveling up quite easily. At +0/x8 I don't die, but at +1/x8 I die quite often so I've been running mainly at +0. Currently at level 35 and I think it's been about 5 hours or so.

I'll be picking up some tep powers, like the taser and grenades, to see if that will help my damage output. Overall a very effective way to level up and get mad tickets/inf.

Thanks TopDoc.

Another vote of thanks from here Top Doc.

My DB/Elec stalker got re-rolled for this as the electric wolverine didn't suite me (pretty much the same experience as FourSpeed). Re-rolled as a Brute.

After 8 hours I'm sitting at 45. A lot of this was due to breaking up the PL time with some thoughtful ticket spending. Post level 20, I'd comeplete the arc (7500 tickets) then go and spend!

In terms of actually getting through the missions, there is a lot of sense above, and without using the inspcombine macros, I roll my fingers across F1-F4, leaving a column of 2 greens and purples for emergencies under F5. I think I've died maybe once per 2 runs due to bad purple luck. It doesn't bother me enough to make macros and it makes it marginally more exciting.

I also have to say that it is quite a lot of fun. I'm not slotting anything, and have a dual build setup for my "proper" build.

Some notes on ticket spending for anyone interested:

For the first 2 missions, I took Alchemical Gold for all my tickets, then sold them all for 1. This gave me 5 million startup capital.

I've been rolling Gold x2 (30-34), then either Silver or Bronze (same range) as the mood suits (or depending on the number of tickets I have to hand). Rubbish has been deleted, and I've been relying on memory to determine what's valuable. A lot of this is due to needing Kin Combats for my final PvE build.

General notes;
- Orange salvage is getting cheaper. The income from it is reliable (can still get 1-1.5 mil per item for most), but the plus to that is if you're making rare receipes, it's cheaper to craft them.
- Prices on crafted Bronze recipes are dipping as you'd expect. There are still a few gems, but as I'm not halting my xp at any level, I'm getting a lot of "non-zero" recipes (ones not 30, 40 or 50) which makes selling them take a bit longer.
- High priced rolls have been up & down. 2 Numina uniques, 2 Steadfast Defs and Oblit Quads were the gems, but I've slotted those (or plan to) so they're not liquid assets so to speak. I still see it as more cost effective to risk the random number generator and craft the ones I need than to just roll salvage and sell it.
- When I have filled all my recipe slots, another run will net me easily enough tickets to buy (from the AE vendor) all the uncommons I need. I then do an even number of rolls on Common Arcane & Tech (26-40) to fill up my salvage slots. I then head to the auction house to sell the non-required commons and buy up the rares. 1-2 trips usually allows me to make all the recipes I need which then get sold, slotted or emailed.

I reckon I'm sitting on around 3-500m in unslotted anhancements/recipes/raw inf at the moment with 5 more levels to 50. By the time I'm 50, I would imagine I'd have enough to IO the toon completely. I don't see a need for Purples or PvP recipes on this toon, so that will be job done!

I also quite like seeing overall prices actually take a dip. Makes life happier for everyone.

-H