Beam Gun and Street Justice
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Amy_Amp,
Posted on: 2011-07-22 11:42 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
So, going by those symbols, we should be able to tell what those powers are to some degree.
Time Crawl - single target slow - probably the power that enhances other debuffs on that target
Temporal Mending - PBAOE heal
Time's Juncture - debuff, but not sure what that blurry symbol is - to hit?
Temporal Selections - single target ally damage buff - probably the power that enhances other buffs on the target - I had figured this would be a recharge/end buff
Distortion field - location based debuff - probably pseudo pet. Not sure what that symbol is.
Time Stop - single target hold - hopefully they do something interesting, because this is pretty high in the power list for such a mundane power.
Farsight - PBAOE defense buff - probably a mind link clone of some type. Kind of disappointed it isn't a toggle
Slowed Response - targeted AOE defense debuff. About as expected. Even if nothing is special, should still be able to stick a achiles's in there.
Chrono Shift - PBAOE team buff version of Distortion field - still don't recognize that symbol
The one thing I notice is that normally sets give defense or heals, but not both. Sets with both shields and heals normally have resist shields, so this looks like something new in that regard. That also makes me think the def won't be spectacular.
Also, it looks like a strong set for staying at range, as only Time's Juncture requires you really jump into the melee, and without knowing specifics, that might not be a huge problem or it might really alter how the set is played.
Farsight could be a toggle, there is no evidence it isn't and look at dispersion bubble's symbol, they're the same. so there is still hope.
So, kinda like Thermal, but with Defense, Recharge shenanigans, and no Res?
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There could be res since the symbols only show what they conside the primary purpose of the power. Plenty of attacks have -def with only a standard attack symbol. Thematically res doesn't make as much sense, but it's possible they stuck it in there somewhere (although, I would like -res more than +res personally if we're just sticking random effects in different powers).
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Originally Posted by Kristoph
So, kinda like Thermal, but with Defense, Recharge shenanigans, and no Res?
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For a PBaoe toggle, I was looking for the dotted line symbol like they have in the leadership toggles, but you're right, they aren't entirely consistent with that.|
Originally Posted by MoonlightSonata
Farsight could be a toggle, there is no evidence it isn't and look at dispersion bubble's symbol, they're the same. so there is still hope.
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Similarly, slower response could be a toggle since that's the same outline used on the Radiation toggles.
The big question to me is "could time crawl or temporal selection be toggles?" I can't think of any single target toggle buff/debuff to compare it to.
Looks like Beam Rifle has a snipe? Penetrating Ray? ugh.. I hope it's not a snipe. I hate snipe powers.
Hopefully Penetrating Ray is similar to Clockwork boss's Chest Beam.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Sorry, I meant 'No Res' to mean 'No Resurrection', not 'No Resistance'.
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Originally Posted by rsclark
There could be res since the symbols only show what they conside the primary purpose of the power. Plenty of attacks have -def with only a standard attack symbol. Thematically res doesn't make as much sense, but it's possible they stuck it in there somewhere (although, I would like -res more than +res personally if we're just sticking random effects in different powers).
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Are you a Wolf, a Sheep, or a Hound?
"They called me crazy�they called me insane�THEY CALLED ME LOONEY!! and boy, were they right."
- Megavolt - Darkwing Duck
Disintegrate...a Targeted AOE?
to rsclark:
The symbol on Distortion field and Chronoshift is the same one used for Quickness and Mental training. Hasten might use it to
So I'm thinking Field is a psuedopet the debuffs movement speed and recharge. Maybe a debuff version of Hasten that's a field?
Shift could be a PBAOE Hasten/Quickness
Though without any kind of recovery boost, something like that wouldn't be that great.
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If Time has quite a bit of +recharge, I hope they can modify a bit for Mastermind as the pets don't benefit from +recharge.
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Originally Posted by DMystic
Shift could be a PBAOE Hasten/Quickness
Though without any kind of recovery boost, something like that wouldn't be that great. |
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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It really needs that and will be a problem without it. Since it's a PB area and not a targeted area, then it looks like it's not going to be the fulcrum shift clone people were hoping for.
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Originally Posted by DMystic
Shift could be a PBAOE Hasten/Quickness
Though without any kind of recovery boost, something like that wouldn't be that great. |
Time to build Marvin heh
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No video of Street Justice yet?
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They keep yanking the cameras out of the hands of the guys trying to get footage and stomping on them.
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
No video of Street Justice yet?
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The Leadership toggles aren't PBAoE buffs, they're Team Buffs. Dispersion Bubble and the like are PBAoEs.|
Originally Posted by rsclark
For a PBaoe toggle, I was looking for the dotted line symbol like they have in the leadership toggles, but you're right, they aren't entirely consistent with that.
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Originally Posted by Negate
Disintegrate...a Targeted AOE?
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@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
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Sure about that? |
Originally Posted by Oathbound
The Leadership toggles aren't PBAoE buffs, they're Team Buffs. Dispersion Bubble and the like are PBAoEs.
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Assault
PBAoE, Team +DMG, Res(Taunt, Placate)
Effect area Sphere
Radius 60 feet
Maneuvers
PBAoE, Team +DEF(All)
Effect area Sphere
Radius 60 feet
Tactics
PBAoE, Team +To Hit, Res(Confuse, Fear), +Perception
Effect area Sphere
Radius 60 feet
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Leadership powers don't effect anyone who isn't on your team, so, yes, the post you quoted is accurate.
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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
Sure about that?
Assault PBAoE, Team +DMG, Res(Taunt, Placate) Effect area Sphere Radius 60 feet Maneuvers PBAoE, Team +DEF(All) Effect area Sphere Radius 60 feet Tactics PBAoE, Team +To Hit, Res(Confuse, Fear), +Perception Effect area Sphere Radius 60 feet |
@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
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Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
Leadership powers don't effect anyone who isn't on your team, so, yes, the post you quoted is accurate.
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Is it not? I thought they have changed it.
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It could also be similar to Dual Pistols' Piercing Rounds.|
Originally Posted by Jibikao
Looks like Beam Rifle has a snipe? Penetrating Ray? ugh.. I hope it's not a snipe. I hate snipe powers.
Hopefully Penetrating Ray is similar to Clockwork boss's Chest Beam. |
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Originally Posted by Angelic_EU
Is it not? I thought they have changed it.
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@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
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Yes.
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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
Sure about that?
Assault PBAoE, Team +DMG, Res(Taunt, Placate) Effect area Sphere Radius 60 feet Maneuvers PBAoE, Team +DEF(All) Effect area Sphere Radius 60 feet Tactics PBAoE, Team +To Hit, Res(Confuse, Fear), +Perception Effect area Sphere Radius 60 feet |
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
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Does this comment apply to all 4 listed in the OP, or just Beam/SJ.|
Originally Posted by NeoGenesis
I'm here at comic con and spoke with posi. The sets are on the floor to view and will be in I21, however I was told they will be premium power sets which are not included with the VIP subscription and must be purchased with points. Currently they are 800 points ($10) each. Street justice is has a combo system of sorts. They are also adding a 5th power to all travel sets. And travel powers are available at lvl 4 now.
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I want my Titan weapon, damnit.
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I believe it applies to everything except Temporal Manipulation. That one we get free.
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Originally Posted by MayorOfAngrytown
Does this comment apply to all 4 listed in the OP, or just Beam/SJ.
I want my Titan weapon, damnit. |
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
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Fair enough.|
Originally Posted by Oathbound
I believe it applies to everything except Temporal Manipulation. That one we get free.
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I don't mind spending the points on it, but the post I quoted was unclear. Are they all in i21 or just all of them except Titan? I've inferred the latter from cruising around the boards.
Which is mildly dissapointing, but no biggie. Enough other stuff going on in i21 to keep me busy I suppose.
Edit: It's sort of unclear. The Title is about BG/SJ, but the OP includes all 4 of the new sets.
To clear up my post. Titan weapons was not on the build that was shown on the floor. I was told it would show up after I21 but before I22. No mention on if that ment I21.5 or if it would show up in the market. Scorpion told me they will be adding stuff to the market weekly. But to be clear no Titan at I21 launch and it looks like it will be premium like street justice and beam rifle.
Time manipulation is not a "premium" power set and is included "free" with a VIP subscription.
Unless locked due to being a weapon based set (Or Kheld, etc.)
The options are 'Original', 'Bright', 'Dark', 'Color Tintable', 'Minimal FX' or a choice of alternate animation/vfx.
The top listing is to change the whole set's options, the lower under each selected power it to allow changes on a per power level.
Note that on the current live version, the upper option just selects the options for the rest of the set with no color selection available, you have to set a per power color and copy to set or all powers.