Is the currently published back story adequate?

I'd rather there wasn't. Because just like with the Well, none of my characters would shove pieces of Hamidon in their bodies. But it (at the time) was the only way to advance further. I'd rather game mechanics not get tied into lore in that way.

I certainly hope Ghost Widow doesn't start randomly showing up and hugging me just because I slotted her enhancement set.

Gadzul Oil.

There still may be "consequences" for buying into the Well and becoming an Incarnate.


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Which would be epically stupid.

Seeing as how it's BLATANTLY obvious in Mender Ramiels arc when you talk to statesmen.

...and a legion of fanbois fervently pray that this WOULD happen to them.

Hamidon Enhancements were an early instance of LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU for me. My fourth level 50 received 27 the moment he hit level 47 and could slot them.

And he was the last. IOs showed up and the raids changed. IOs seem a better deal overall.

Some of the descriptions for standard enhancements do not sound very appetizing, either. If there are Hami ramifications, there could conceivably be bad news there, too.

Keep telling yourself that.

It's what the game tells us

We were told that by someone the Well could very well be controlling.


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NPC's in the game lie whenever it suits their agenda.

...it says here. Right next to "the check is in the mail".

The character has no reason to take these assurances at face value. Butane points out the Well could be controlling Gray but really it's even worse than that. The only assurance the character is given that accessing the Well can ever be safe comes from a character that in universe is notorious for secrecy. We really don't know who Lady Gray is, or where she comes from, or the source of her powers, her motivations or agenda, etc. The new dialog for Prometheus just makes things worse, since it's made pretty clear that he isn't being straight with the PCs, either.

This is the point. Good writing in an RPG scenario encourages buy-in: the characters are presented with reasons to stay on the rails because doing so works for them in some way. Bad writing, which is what we're getting, encourages opt-out. There is no reason for the characters to want to touch Incarnate-hood with someone else's hand, But Thou Must if you want to play. The player shouldn't feel that the only way to win is not to play.

It's too late, GG! The moment your character set foot on the Incarnate path she become - irrevocably! - an ingredient in the Coming Storm's Ultimate Recipe of DooOOooOOoOOooom!

Depends on what you want to do for a specific purpose; I have two characters with the Munitions APP that six-slotted LRM with three Dmg/Rng HOs and two Rech and one Acc common IO, which with their having Boost Range from the Energy Manipulation secondary, lets them do 'See that dot?' pulls

The game mechanics don't

That only means that the other shoe hasn't dropped yet.

I think that my in-game character shouldn't have to be aware of metagame mechanics in order to have a compelling, consistent and believable narrative. The current incarnate storyline would convince my signature hero that Incarnation is a whole load of bantha poodoo.

I see no evidence why I should trust Victoria/Elizabeth Grey, and I see evidence that she is a borderline villain herself. That no doubt serves her well in her capacity as chief of Vanguard but it doesn't inspire any confidence in her honesty or her motives. I find it much more likely that she is using my hero as a guinea pig to further her researches and theories than it is that she is giving me the straight scoop just as a thank you for helping her out.

They have before in other games, who's to say not in this one?

Venture raises a good point. When game storytelling makes you ask for a third option or a way out, there's something wrong with the storytelling at its core. Putting players in a situation where it feels they should have a choice and where they really want to have a choice but the game doesn't give one is rarely a good situation, and even more rarely something you want to write intentionally without VERY good reason.

Personally, I've stopped trying to care for the Well of the Furies story arc by now. I stopped trying to care when I realised it ties into the Origin of Powers arc. That's like reading a mediocre comic book, only to realise at some point it's a tie-in book to Countodwn. Ugh! That's the kind of GM god-modding storytelling that really shouldn't happen in a game that's otherwise so very open to interpretation.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Based on the evidence at hand, walking that Incarnate path is akin to playing peekaboo with Medusa. The one from mythology, not the Inhuman.

Arguably this was already done with the Destined One storyline. I'd like to think the devs learned from that mistake, but the whole Incarnate system has repeated the mistakes of the Patron Power pools, so I'm not optimistic.

Before she was The Lady Grey she was just plain old Lady Grey, an alien who crash landed in Paragon and is searching for her missing husband Lord Grey.

Why do you keep quoting brainless inanity so that my ignore function isn't allowed to function?

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.