Thank Goodness It's Mission Architect Thursday!
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7deCoeur,
Posted on: 2011-06-17 13:21 in Mission Architect
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Though the arcs were picked by the community, they were all presented by one person in this thread. Bubba did say they were from the Player's Choice contest, but you're assuming the community team fully understands what that means. Remember: they're not neck-deep in our sub-community like we are.|
Originally Posted by Jail_Bird
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the PC Awards were picked by the MA community of players and not one person. Clearly they should have all been played first. I feel very bad for her as she deserves much better treatment from the devs and the community.
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I can understand them mixing up the order; they need to be sensitive to the perspective of the general community player (which is who they are trying to attract with this event). And to them, it looks like they've only picked suggestions from 2 people so far.
Not to mention, there are already roughly 60 arcs suggested, so people who didn't post in the first week or still want to recommend arcs probably feel like it's a futile endeavor to have their suggestion played at this point.
It sucks that her arc was skipped this week, but WN shouldn't take it personally. Are PW and Igor Blimey taking issue with being skipped, too? Doubtful. It's only seen that way with WN because she already thinks they're avoiding her work.
Relax, her work is top notch and we all know it's deserving of DC. It's just going to take more time.
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They provided prizes for the PC Awards and awarded forum titles. I think they are aware. |
Originally Posted by BackFire
Though the arcs were picked by the community, they were all presented by one person in this thread. Bubba did say they were from the Player's Choice contest, but you're assuming the community team fully understands what that means. Remember: they're not neck-deep in our sub-community like we are.
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I can understand them mixing up the order; they need to be sensitive to the perspective of the general community player (which is who they are trying to attract with this event). And to them, it looks like they've only picked suggestions from 2 people so far. Not to mention, there are already roughly 60 arcs suggested, so people who didn't post in the first week or still want to recommend arcs probably feel like it's a futile endeavor to have their suggestion played at this point. |
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| It sucks that her arc was skipped this week, but WN shouldn't take it personally. Are PW and Igor Blimey taking issue with being skipped, too? Doubtful. It's only seen that way with WN because she already thinks they're avoiding her work. |
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| Relax, her work is top notch and we all know it's deserving of DC. It's just going to take more time. |
Jail.Bird
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This I canNOT agree on! |
Originally Posted by BackFire
It's just going to take more time.
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I don't know why the devs aren't going DC-crazy with all these good arcs we've tossed at them - have they played one yet that wasn't worthy of a DC? Wouldn't it behoove them to build up as large a DC-arc library to try and show people "good arcs that aren't broken or give less than stellar XP because they were never updated"?
Do that, change up the search window some and you'd have a chance to pull the AE up out of the 'only good for brute's farming' tailspin of ignorance that the majority of players are stuck in.
Then again, we know where the devs' real love lies right now and probably will for a long time : 'end-game content'. This is why I'm glad to even have mere bones tossed our way, things could be worse, they might not be throwing anything at us at all.
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I would rather have nothing than mere pro forma token support. The former is honest.
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Did you ever stop to consider that maybe they skipped hers and the others because they've already added them to the DC bank?|
Originally Posted by Jail_Bird
You mean a person that already has a DC and the other arc that is already in HoF?
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Maybe that's too 'glass half full' but I don't see the doom here.
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Oh! And I almost forgot...this week's submission:
#322373 "Dead Fellas" by @Sand Sultan
5 mission arc
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I'll suggest a couple of worthy arcs:
Dhahabu Kingdom and the Indelible Curse of Hate: #367872
Dhahabu Kingdom and the Unfathomable Nightmare of Sand: #453511
Winner of Players' Choice Best Villainous Arc 2010: Fear and Loathing on Striga; ID #350522
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Originally Posted by Avatea
As for today's AE run, Freitag and I visited Infinity and gathered a very colourful team to run "The Time Bandits" by IantheM1. The arc was fun to run and the story itself was well thought out. There were a lot of the same NPCs visually speaking, but the variety of maps used throughout the story did offset that and the clues were really a great read!
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I'm glad you enjoyed it.(Not that there isn't a good reason for the lack of visual variety between the enemies. *cough* >.>)
Actually now that I think of it, I suppose I'm going to have to update the arc come I21...replace Gravity Control on the bosses with Time Manipulation. Mental note made.
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I was actually inferring it from Aeon's comment in the Becky's Revenge gets a DC' thread:|
Originally Posted by BackFire
I wasn't aware it was a competition between the arcs played in a month for only 1 possible Dev Choice. Let's look back at Dr. A's quote from the OP:
I see how you could infer that there will only be 1 DC per month from quote above, but I took it to mean they could mark any number of arcs as a DC once a month. In other words, "once a month" refers to the time they make the choices, not the # of arcs chosen. Or it could also mean that they choose 1 a month from the pool of previously qualifying played arcs which includes ones played in previous months. It would be a complete disservice to arbitrarily eliminate a DC-worthy arc from future consideration simply because they played another DC-worthy arc in the same month but only chose 1 at the time. That's just silly. |
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Originally Posted by Dr. Aeon
Im happy to give this months Dev Choice to New Age Ronin for Beckys Revenge. Congratulations! |
However, if they're playing 4-5 per month and only awarding 1 per month,, well, do the math. By the end of the year we'll have 5 new DCs and 20-odd arcs which have been played with no DC. A big problem I see with that is that without a 'yes/no' indication, those authors are left hanging, forever, possibly. How long is the back-burner? If Fear and Loathing on Striga has no DC by December, is it still on the list? At the end of next year, we'll have 17 new DCs and 68-85 arcs in a 'is it worthy of DC or not?' limbo.
It might have been fairer for this to have been delivered in a more clear manner, ie "We played [arc X] this week, and we have decided to award it a DC Yay!' or 'We played [arc X] this week, and although it has many merits, we feel it doesn't quite fit into the very best., so we won't be awarding it a DC'
That would obviously engender 'discussion', butat least the authors would know where they stood.
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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I would like to add the following arcs:
The Consequences of War #227331 @Dalghryn
The Echo #1688 @MrCaptainMan
Outbroken #379017 @Aehaed
Task Force Mutternacht #349522 @twelfth
The Christmas We Get #356477 @Venture
I would also like to add my support for:
Hopeless #29262 @TalenLee
Made to Wave the Flag #384775 @LaserJesus
Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society #344596 @Wrong Number
Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black #161629 @Archdemon
Against the Wickerwork Khan #346904 @Clave Dark 5
The Bravuran Jobs #5073 @GlaziusF
Unfair Trade #373846 @Lazarus
Dhahabu Kingdom and the Indelible Curse of Hate #367872 @Zamuel
The Murders In The RWZ Morgue #452144 @FredrikSvanberg
@Gypsy Rose
In Pursuit of Liberty - 344916
The Vigilante - 395861
Suppression - 374481 - Winner of The American Legion's February 2011 AE Author Contest
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Oh come on now. That's sad and I feel for her, but that's not even worth bringing up. There's no way for the developers to have known that unless she's been PMing them details about her personal life. Even then, that has no bearing on whether her arcs fit the criterion for being a Dev's Choice: whether the developers think they're great.
| Also, to be honest, considering the personal stuff she is going though with her son atm, it seemed particularly heartless even though I'm certain that was not the intent. |
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Since, my comment went over your head let me rephrase: I was basically saying the timing was pretty crappy and I felt bad for that even though it was not anyone's fault. Got it now?|
Originally Posted by LaserJesus
Oh come on now. That's sad and I feel for her, but that's not even worth bringing up. There's no way for the developers to have known that unless she's been PMing them details about her personal life. Even then, that has no bearing on whether her arcs fit the criterion for being a Dev's Choice: whether the developers think they're great.
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Second, where oh where was it mentioned that anything had an impact on if an arc was DC'd? We were wondering about why some arcs were suddenly skipped over in the order, not about which arcs should or shouldn't be dc'd. Geez...
Jail.Bird
My question about the newly awarded DC is...has this been announced in-game? One of the primary problems concerning AE arcs is advertising. Since it's known that the forum community is not everyone in the game, some sort of MOTD/admin message would make sense.
Hello everyone!
Yesterday, I hopped onto Zukunft and played "The Ziggurat Taskforce" by Dark Eye. Fun was had by all, as we rushed into the Zig to ... uh ... reacquaint inmates with their cells and retrieve barrels of a special breed of Superadine! The variety of enemies was truly staggering, and there was a special appearance by the author! Thanks to all who joined me!
Kevin Callanan
Community Specialist
Paragon Studios
This week's nomination:
#25622 "Teh Freakshow Artz Klub" by @Geveo
2 missions
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And in the meantime, an unaware author might unpublish the candidate in order to make room for a new story
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Originally Posted by Avatea
Any Dev Choice worthy arc will obviously not be discarded, fret not! Dr. Aeon may not post them all at once though
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In that case, if we've had time to run it, we would get in touch with the author.|
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And in the meantime, an unaware author might unpublish the candidate in order to make room for a new story
:-/
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As for today, Freitag and I had the pleasure of running Golden Age Secret of the Paragon Society #344596 by @Wrong Number on Liberty with a great bunch of people! (sorry it looks like only 1 screenshot got saved in my folder
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The arc itself was really enjoyable and the author was very thorough with creating a plausible back story. The NPCs were well chosen and the custom ones were really fun... to beat up! Not to mention they had a solid description, which added to the immersion factor. All in all, a fun arc to run!
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Grats to WN for getting the play! GASotPS is a definite fav!!
This week's nomination goes to:
#26811 "Love is in the Error" by @Witch Engine
3 missions
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I agree with many of the previous nominations and would like to add these two:
Suppression 374481 @Gypsy Rose
A Very Special Episode 457506 @Wrong Number
I have a couple more, but need to dig up the info on them.
Jail.Bird
Hello everyone!
Today, we visited Union, where myself, 7deCoeur and 6 Unionite joined together to take on Talos Vice, an arc by @PW. (#338380). With a unique film-script style of dialogue, we took on criminals and the mafia in our quest to destroy stashes of Superadine and put crime lords behind bars! With a surprising twist at the end, this is definitely an arc to run! Thank you to all who participated, and to all the people we weren't able to take along!
~Freitag
Kevin Callanan
Community Specialist
Paragon Studios
If multiple devs/community reps are going to be participating, would you consider running multiple teams if enough players show up? Just in the interest of exposing as many players to AE as possible.
Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World
Great arc!! Whenever I play it I alt-tab to youtube and fire up the Miami Vice theme for background music. Totally radical
Craft your inventions in AE!!
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Originally Posted by Freitag
Today, we visited Union, where myself, 7deCoeur and 6 Unionite joined together to take on Talos Vice, an arc by @PW. (#338380). With a unique film-script style of dialogue, we took on criminals and the mafia in our quest to destroy stashes of Superadine and put crime lords behind bars! With a surprising twist at the end, this is definitely an arc to run! Thank you to all who participated, and to all the people we weren't able to take along!
~Freitag |
Thanks for playing Talos Vice! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@PW - Police Woman (50 AR/dev blaster on Liberty)
TALOS - PW war journal - alternate contact tree using MA story arcs
=VICE= "Give me Liberty, or give me debt!"
A slightly lighter screenshot after I took it into potatoshop for a quick and dirty name addition.
Cheers for the arc run through.
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