Time's Top 10 Superhero Films
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Posted on: 2011-06-16 10:02 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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I didn't even know Blade (the character) existed until the movie came out. And it deserves props for not only taking the superhero genre seriously (and perhaps moreso than anyone had before, given the R rating) but showing studios that you could make $100M+ with characters not named Superman or Batman. When an R-rated movie based off a blaxploitation superhero from the 70s makes it, it shows everyone else that this genre has possibilities outside the big names and that people respond well to this type of film when the subject matter is taken seriously.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
Blade was mostly unknown outside of the core fans -- it was a good action/vampire flick that happened to be based on a comic. I think X-Men was really the one that got things rolling because it took characters who were clearly from comic books and treated them mostly seriously. Spider-man followed up that success showing that you could actually use the costume.
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This about sums it up. To use a baseball analogy, I think Blade was the lead man on base, X-Men put the runners in scoring position, and Spider Man knocked it out of the park.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
Neither, really. Burton's Batman was a far superior film over the first two (badly written) Superman films, but both the Superman and Batman films were still in the "a comic book movie has to be comic" era. And look at the sequels -- Superman III and IV, Supergirl and the Schumaker Batman sequels pretty much killed the trend.
Blade was mostly unknown outside of the core fans -- it was a good action/vampire flick that happened to be based on a comic. I think X-Men was really the one that got things rolling because it took characters who were clearly from comic books and treated them mostly seriously. Spider-man followed up that success showing that you could actually use the costume. |
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Thing is, I don't consider Mystery Men a spoof. No moreso than the Incredibles at least. They make it clear that there are real and powerful superheroes and villains in that world, but that in the full spectrum of society there are also wannabes. People with powers that aren't that awesome, or people who really just wish they could be super.
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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
If we can include slightly tongue in cheek movies, then Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog should be somewhere in a top 10. I think most wouldn't include something that spoofs the genre, since a list usually is supposed to denote the best of a genre, but... it does hit many of the themes of the genre while spoofing it, and actually has a good story and pathos, compared to some of the superhero movies that actually had a studio backing the budget.
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You aren't alone, I'm a member of that club as well, without him the movie is just meh. His part is brilliant but the remainder of the movie...not so much.
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Originally Posted by Le Blanc
Oh thank god! I thought I was the only person on these boards who felt that way! EVERYBODY says how great it was. I only noticed HL's part.
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My ten.
10. Fantastic Four:- Rise of the Silver Surfer.
9. Daredevil:- Director's cut
8 The Incredible Hulk (Roth rules!)
7. Spider-Man 2
6. Batman Begins - (What a reboot)
5. Iron Man
4 Superman II (Donner cut)
3 Dark Knight
2 Unbreakable (for being so damn different)
1. Spider-Man
Honourable animation mentions - "Planet Hulk", "Green Lantern - First Flight", "Batman Beyond - Return of the Joker."
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Hahaha, Daredevil was horrible. It had so many talented people involved and the only thing I can remember clearly about it was BULLSEYE IS IRISH!!!!!
And it gave us Elektra. Nuff said.
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Actually the Director's Cut for the film made it a good film to watch. It is not on my top ten, but when I got the chance to watch the buy it I did, cause the people did a good job on it.|
Originally Posted by Bad_Luck
Hahaha, Daredevil was horrible. It had so many talented people involved and the only thing I can remember clearly about it was BULLSEYE IS IRISH!!!!!
And it gave us Elektra. Nuff said. |
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Ah hell I will add my Fav 10:
1. The Dark Knight
2. Iron Man
3. Watchmen (Ultimate Cut)
4. Superman
5. Kick ***
6. Hellboy II and the Golden Army
7. X-Men 2
8. Spider-man 2
9. Thor
10. The Incredibles
Now most of these are throw ups, mainly from 4+ it is what ever the mood is for me. The top three in my books help me define or set a certain standard for Superhero films.
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I can't remember if I've seen that cut or not, it has been years by now and I have no desire to go look. Daredevil would rank just a bit above Howard the Duck on my list, and I don't see how a different cut could transform it into something approaching good.
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Originally Posted by Mylia
Actually the Director's Cut for the film made it a good film to watch.
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I didn't think the Director's Cut was that good, but it did make it a better movie by adding more characterization of the character Matt Murdock who was pretty ignored by the first film by putting in several scenes of Matt Murdock, lawyer, that was cut from the film, as well as showed what the people actually thought of Daredevil's vigilantic actions, and how his patrols affected him physically. Also scaled down was the love story between him and Elektra, which IMHO is a major plus!
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Originally Posted by Bad_Luck
I can't remember if I've seen that cut or not, it has been years by now and I have no desire to go look. Daredevil would rank just a bit above Howard the Duck on my list, and I don't see how a different cut could transform it into something approaching good.
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I'd definitely put Mystery Men in the same boat as Dr. Horrible, which manages to spoof the genre while somehow embracing it and still telling a good story for the genre (not unlike how Princess Bride does the same for the fantasy/swashbuckling genre). It's hard to say that there isn't a spoofing aspect to Mystery Men when the main "heroes" are a guy that "shovels well," another that shoots forks at people, another that gets "really furious", one that farts at people, and last but not least, one that quit grad school to throw a bowling ball at bad guys: a bowling ball with her dad's head encased in it. |
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
Thing is, I don't consider Mystery Men a spoof. No moreso than the Incredibles at least. They make it clear that there are real and powerful superheroes and villains in that world, but that in the full spectrum of society there are also wannabes. People with powers that aren't that awesome, or people who really just wish they could be super.
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Incredibles jokes about the genre (you caught me monologuing!), but I'd say it's a more serious look at it than Mystery Men and Dr. Horrible. But still, this shows why lists are so difficult. Criteria can range so much for people, even when looking in a specific genre!
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It also brought Foggy more into the film and revealed it was him who managed to legally nail the Kingpin, thus resulting in the cops suddenly turning up at the end of the film making sense.
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Originally Posted by Innovator
I didn't think the Director's Cut was that good, but it did make it a better movie by adding more characterization of the character Matt Murdock who was pretty ignored by the first film by putting in several scenes of Matt Murdock, lawyer, that was cut from the film, as well as showed what the people actually thought of Daredevil's vigilantic actions, and how his patrols affected him physically. Also scaled down was the love story between him and Elektra, which IMHO is a major plus!
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If you take out Daredevil and Bullseye it might approach watchable. Retitle it "Kingpin" and you've got a movie!
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Originally Posted by Bad_Luck
I can't remember if I've seen that cut or not, it has been years by now and I have no desire to go look. Daredevil would rank just a bit above Howard the Duck on my list, and I don't see how a different cut could transform it into something approaching good.
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I totally forgot The Predator was in that!
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Originally Posted by Bad_Luck
Ah, it did seem light on those things. But still...
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If I were to include fully animated movies in my list...
I may have to put Twice Upon A Time rather high on that list... 
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Originally Posted by Bad_Luck
Ah, it did seem light on those things. But still...
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Also I do have a love for bad films (aka Elektra). For DD the Director's Cut of it is graded by me as Okay, or just a plain boring good. I did like the changes it made to improve it past bad/not bad territory.
For a staring ratting it would be like a 5.5/10 just a pass
Ok I missed the DD directors cut so could someone explain why it is so much better then the original...or is it a case of they added 2 or 3 scenes that make the total experience more palatable? I gave the original a C-...could have been a C+ had they not destroyed Bullseye.
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The Directors cut put in a full 30 minute subplot that included Foggy coming to the fore. It has Nelson & Murdoch defending a ganger accused of murdering a prostitute. With Matt distracted by Electra, it's Foggy that leads the defence and, pivotally, Foggy that uncovers the murderer being Fisks right hand man. (Remember the line 'the word's out on the Kingpin' at the end of the theatrical? The Directors' cut gives you the story beyond that line that, quite frankly, is bizarre in the theatrical as it has no reason to exist.)|
Originally Posted by Exodus_V
Ok I missed the DD directors cut so could someone explain why it is so much better then the original...or is it a case of they added 2 or 3 scenes that make the total experience more palatable? I gave the original a C-...could have been a C+ had they not destroyed Bullseye.
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A number of scenes are also changed (including it being a cop who purjures himself in trial scenes telling him Kingpin kills entire families) and it's almost a different movie.
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Ok its on the list to see then...thanks for the write-up!
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Originally Posted by welshman_EU
The Directors cut put in a full 30 minute subplot that included Foggy coming to the fore. It has Nelson & Murdoch defending a ganger accused of murdering a prostitute. With Matt distracted by Electra, it's Foggy that leads the defence and, pivotally, Foggy that uncovers the murderer being Fisks right hand man. (Remember the line 'the word's out on the Kingpin' at the end of the theatrical? The Directors' cut gives you the story beyond that line that, quite frankly, is bizarre in the theatrical as it has no reason to exist.)
A number of scenes are also changed (including it being a cop who purjures himself in trial scenes telling him Kingpin kills entire families) and it's almost a different movie. |
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Originally Posted by Ironik
I totally forgot The Predator was in that!
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Mercy! Whilst I agree that "beauty is in the eyes..." you might wanna get yours checked. There is NOTHING wrong with that pic!
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Ok. Not totally looking to rez the thread but I was hit with a desire to list the ten best films (in my opinion) that I actually have the DVD of. Not necessarily hero movies and in no particular order
Dark Knight Returns - Darkest hero movie ever.
Iron Man - Great origins movie
X-Men - The whole genre owes a lot to this one.
District 13 - A good spin on the 'visiting alien cultures' idea
Taken - Liam Neeson IS a predator. nuff said.
Copland - The best movie people forget Stallone made.
Star Trek - Best reboot ever. Probably.
Serenity - A classic Sci-fi story
Inside Man - a thriller that ACTUALLY keeps you guessing!
Let the Right one in - The swedes show the Americans how a vampire movie should be.
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10. Hancock (mostly for the first half)
9. Iron Man
8. Unbreakable
7. X Men
6. Megamind (-> I didn't see this mentioned in the thread, did everyone but me hate it?)
5. Spider-Man 2
4. Watchmen
3. The Dark Knight
2. The Incredibles
1. Kick-***
There.
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Not that I'm trying to be argumentative or anything... (<.<.) but I believe your use of the word 'cartoons', a word sometimes used as derogatory of animated films, betrays a certain ... viewpoint.|
Originally Posted by Acemace
I'd remove the cartoons or even comprise their own separate list from the l/a films.
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It's taken over 50 years of hard work for people to consider animated films like the "Toy Story" franchise with the same seriousness as Hi-tech effects films (which have themselves been demeaned for a long time) and they have often been relegated to 'also-ran' status in such considerations as the Oscars. (Sorry for the terrrible sentence.)
But to put them in a different category really misses the point. The Incredibles raised the bar for superhero movies in a way that even the Batman reboot films, as much as I like them, didn't.
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Thats not a bad list. I love The Incredibles, I think it deserves its spot. I'd take Spiderman 1 over 2 and would kick Blade and Superman from the list altogether. Unbreakable deserves its place due to being a great movie, plus gets extra credit for coming out before the current Super Hero trend. Its a shame M. Night Shyamalan never went on to make any other movies.|
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
10. Iron Man 9. Watchmen 8. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm 7. The Rocketeer 6. Blade II 5. Superman II 4. Unbreakable 3. Spider-Man 2 2. The Dark Knight 1. The Incredibles |
Very pleased to see nothing X-ish on the list
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Blade was mostly unknown outside of the core fans -- it was a good action/vampire flick that happened to be based on a comic. I think X-Men was really the one that got things rolling because it took characters who were clearly from comic books and treated them mostly seriously. Spider-man followed up that success showing that you could actually use the costume.
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