Time's Top 10 Superhero Films
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Posted on: 2011-06-16 10:02 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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I actually prefered the first release more.
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Originally Posted by welshman_EU
Fair comment. For myself, the uncut version of "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker" is by far the strongest Batman animated film.
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Both were good but I found the death of the Joker in the cut version (the uncut is the original) to bee somewhat dumb and undignified.
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Originally Posted by welshman_EU
Both were good but I found the death of the Joker in the cut version (the uncut is the original) to bee somewhat dumb and undignified.
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I'd remove the cartoons or even comprise their own separate list from the l/a films.|
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
I'd probably do it more like this:
10. Kick-*** 9. Hellboy 8. Blade 7. Batman Begins 6. Superman 5. Iron Man 4. X-Men 2 3. Spider-Man 2 2. The Dark Knight 1. The Incredibles |
10. Kick ***
9. Hellboy
8. Batman (1989) - easy to forget what a huge pop hit this was in it's day
7. X-Men
6. Superman 2
5. Batman Begins
4. Iron Man
3. X-Men 2
2. Spider-Man 2
1. The Dark Knight
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Why would you remove the animated movies? Are they not real movies or something?|
Originally Posted by Acemace
I'd remove the cartoons or even comprise their own separate list from the l/a films.
10. Kick *** 9. Hellboy 8. Batman (1989) - easy to forget what a huge pop hit this was in it's day 7. X-Men 6. Superman 2 5. Batman Begins 4. Iron Man 3. X-Men 2 2. Spider-Man 2 1. The Dark Knight . . |
If you're gonna be restrictive like that, I would add that you can only have one movie from a franchise, so you'd have to choose which of those movies is the best of the bunch to add to the list.
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I would probably rate that list as the 48th best top-10 ranking of comic book movies that I've ever read.
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i thought imo Sky High is a awesome movie and should be on there.
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I'd tend to agree with putting live action in a separate list from animated, if only for the additional technical challenge of doing live-action superheroics and not having it look silly/sloppy.
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Why would you remove the animated movies? Are they not real movies or something?
If you're gonna be restrictive like that, I would add that you can only have one movie from a franchise, so you'd have to choose which of those movies is the best of the bunch to add to the list. |
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I agree, but I'd also have X-Men 2 on the list replacing Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Believe me, I love Timm, but Mask of the Phatasm shouldn't be in the top 10.
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Originally Posted by Tymers_Realm
Personally, I'd flip #10 & #7 and I'd Flip #4 & #9, in that order.
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I think the original Superman: the Movie should be on that list before Superman II. Not necessarily b/c it's a better movie (I think it was, but I can see why others would prefer Superman II). But b/c of what it was: Superman: the Movie was the first real superhero movie that was meant to be taken seriously by the general movie-going audience, not just kids. It was the first superhero developed from the ground up with the intention of being a summer blockbuster.
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I don't disagree that Rocketeer should be on the top 10. I love the film, own a copy, and watch it at least once a year. As fun and cool looking the Rocketeer was, it was very Disneyfied (the orange grove scene, him using a gun to do his famous pose and losing it before he could fire a shot, etc...), and I think that Iron Man and Watchmen are better films.
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Originally Posted by Clouded
I seem to be the only one that agrees with Rocketeer being on the list. However, I'm not so sure about Blade II beating out some of the other super hero flicks.
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Of those four: meh, meh, meh, Hancock wasn't bad and I'm a big Will Smith fan.|
Originally Posted by Ironik
Off the top of my head, I would put The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Fantastic Four 2 or Hancock on that list before I ever considered Watchmen.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Then again, I can't remember seeing The Rocketeer or the Timmverse Batman films.
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Originally Posted by Innovator
I agree, but I'd also have X-Men 2 on the list replacing Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Believe me, I love Timm, but Mask of the Phatasm shouldn't be in the top 10.
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Actually it should. B:MotP is a rarity: A US produced animated Superhero film. It has a solid story and a way for those who weren't familiar with Batman:TAS to experience that take on the Batman Mythos.
And for Acemace, Just how many Animated, Theatrical, Superhero genre films are there? Not that many, I believe. So it is well worth including the two animated films that are on that list, epically The Incredibles. It not only deconstructs the Superhero genre, but then gives a rebirth, of sorts, to the Supers community in that particular world. It is a fun and enjoyable film.
Also since several others have given their views on the list, here's mine:
10 - Unbreakable
9 - THe Rocketeer
8 - Batman: Mask of the Phantasam
7 - Hellboy
6 - Iron Man
5 - Superman II
4 - Watchmen
3 - Spider-man 2
2 - The Dark Knight
1 - The Incredibles
Honorable Mention:
Batman (1989)
Batman Begins
X-Men
Thank you for the time...
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There are a couple I haven't seen....
And lists are dumb...
But I suppose I am as well, because here we go!! 
I know that I am forgetting something that I'll be mad at myself for leaving off...
- Spider-Man (I can't think of a better one. Great great cast, emotional resonance, everyman hero, exciting fun, tragic consequences! And all super well done in a format fans and non-fans could enjoy!)
- The Dark Knight (I love this... They ratcheted the psychological tension up and Up and UP... and the overall gritty and harsh consequences of trying to do what you feel is right)
- Superman The Movie (I watched all four [yes ALL FOUR] somewhat recently. This is a tremendous comicbook in action delivered to the majority of moviegoers. The cast is fantastic and it all seems treated with just the right amount of seriousness and fun)
- Spider-Man 2 (One of the few sequels that felt just like the first movie in all the right ways! I love how they didn't just gloss over things... the loss of one family member's life is enormous and was well portrayed through the first and second movie)
- Iron Man (I've got nothing bad to say about this movie. Love it. Made me feel great afterward... the closing line was perfect, hehe... just like the actor for the role!)
- Hellboy (Was completely unfamiliar with the comicbook. Enjoyed the hell out of this movie. It's fun, it's different, it's exciting and really well done!)
- X-Men 2 (While the introductory sequences of the first X-Men film almost make me want to include that one over the second... The rest of that film falls so far for me that I just cannot include it on a list with other far better movies. X-Men 2, however, took the momentum built with the first movie and made a far more solid action superteam adventure movie than the first)
- Hancock (As with Hellboy, I had no previous knowledge of the character or the story. I enjoyed the simple story and the performances and then was delighted with the story I didn't imagine was coming. For me, it was a nice change, as I enjoy movies that break the standard mode of delivery and take me on differing journeys before it is done. This move delivered big time for me)
- KickA** (I was really surprised how good I thought that was, although, I might not have included it had I not been reminded by other people's lists)
- Superman 2 (I was struggling on which movie to include... And, as I looked at each one... Zod stood out and demanded that I come back to reason and make the clear choice. Thank Zod!)
Unbreakable was a very interesting choice! I don't entirely disagree, even though I may not have thought of it myself. What I enjoyed most about that movie was that I had no idea it was headed in that direction at all.
I love not knowing a thing about a movie when I sit down to watch it.
The whole time I was thinking that he wasn't super powered or anything, so I was right in the seat for that ride and enjoyed it.
Can't say I enjoy it as much with repeat viewings, but hey... so what!
Watchmen... I'm far too big of a fan of the books and can't bring myself to think the movie was good enough to be on this list... I can see some aspects being high quality enough though... It didn't make my cut though.
I have not seen The Rocketeer!!! Not sure how, after all these years!!
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Originally Posted by Acemace
I'd remove the cartoons or even comprise their own separate list from the l/a films.
10. Kick *** 9. Hellboy 8. Batman (1989) - easy to forget what a huge pop hit this was in it's day 7. X-Men 6. Superman 2 5. Batman Begins 4. Iron Man 3. X-Men 2 2. Spider-Man 2 1. The Dark Knight . . |
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Why would you remove the animated movies? Are they not real movies or something?
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Originally Posted by Furio
I'd tend to agree with putting live action in a separate list from animated, if only for the additional technical challenge of doing live-action superheroics and not having it look silly/sloppy.
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1. The Dark Knight
2. Spider-Man
3. Superman: The Movie
4. Batman Begins
5. Iron Man
6. Hellboy
7. The Incredibles
8. X-Men 2: Mutants United
9. The Rocketeer
10. Thor
Superman II had its moments, but a story about Superman abandoning his powers and duties in order to get laid gives me the creeps, even though Chris Reeves did about as best you could with it.
I loved Timmverse Batman, but hated Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Way too predictable. The only animated movie other than The Incredibles that comes close to this, IMO, is DC's The New Frontier.
Watchman just had a few too many flaws to overcome. I loved the art design, I thought the acting was pretty good, and I didn't have nearly as many problems with the script as some. But I really, really dislike Zach Snyder's directorial style, which makes me fear for The Man Of Steel.
Unbreakable just doesn't hold up to multiple viewings. Like many MNS movies, once you get the "twist", the rest of the movie isn't compelling enough to hold interest.
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Glad to see that after giving the subject some thought, I'm not the only one who felt Kick-*** and Hellboy deserved to be in the Top 10.
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I was pleased to see Mask of the Phantasm on the list. I don't care where they got the story, or what other story so and so wanted to make, since when you get down to it, more than half the movies made have issues like that. Mask had a much more consistent plot and tone than most live action supermovies I've seen, and I still feel the early years of Batman the Animated Series (culminating in Mask) have some of the best style and art design of any modern American cartoon series.
I wasn't pleased to see so many sequels on the list, particularly since in most of those cases they were weaker films than the originals. Saying Spider Man 2 was better than Spider Man? Just weird.
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Why do people feel Hellboy was so good? It wasn't a bad movie, and it's different from other comic book movies, but I really wouldn't put it in the top 10. I wouldn't put Rocketeer in there, either, for much the same reasons. I definitely would put one of the first two X-Men movies on there, though... probably X-2, as that one is better overall.
Untouchable is definitely a solid movie and deserves to be on the list, and it's a very different take on the usual comic book hero fare. For my own two cents, I'd probably put Superman II over the first on there. The first is good and epic, but the second is more solid all around, and Zod is a great villain. It's a tough call, though.
Still, top 10 lists, even top 50 or 100, are just silly. I used to blog and did my top 50 favorite movies, and that was difficult to impossible, and always is going to come down to personal preferences at some point. I just see them as interesting discussion points, but don't take them too seriously.
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Yeah, I'm not crazy about Hellboy, either. I also feel that Rocketeer is less than the sum of its parts. I really *want* to like it, as it has all the elements I like, but I don't. I feel exactly the same way about Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.
And you're right that any list is going to come down to personal preference. But therein lies the fun of the discussion.
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I think Hellboy deserves a spot in the top 10 because it's a pretty well-rounded superhero movie that has action, fun, darkness, good effects, and a sense of epicness that some writers and directors don't bring across for these kind of characters.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
I think Hellboy deserves a spot in the top 10 because it's a pretty well-rounded superhero movie that has action, fun, darkness, good effects, and a sense of epicness that some writers and directors don't bring across for these kind of characters.
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Hey, I included a bit about each of my selections... do I get a reward? What's that? Oh, my reward is tl/dr syndrome? D'oh!!
Hehe, but yeah, I feel the same as the Captain about it...
Plus, it had Ron Pearlman and David Hyde Pierce!!
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Might as well throw my list in:
1. The Incredibles
2. Iron Man
3. The Dark Knight
4. Thor
5. Iron Man 2
6. The Incredible Hulk
7. Sky High
8. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
9. Hancock
10. Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow
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How did Time pick that list? A dart board maybe? Sheesh...
I've seen better top ten lists in this thread.
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