Still Sexism in costume choices? Really?
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Posted on: 2011-06-02 05:40 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I have no idea who that dude is or what his motives are but he looks like he's trying to pass himself off as an ugly woman.
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Originally Posted by Feycat
Here he is again. You can see he is not TRYING to pass as a woman. He is not a drag queen. He is a man in a dress.
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Bah you Americans!
It's the British comedian Eddie Izzard.
Very funny comedian thank you very much.
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I'll take your word on it. He still looks like he's trying to pass himself off as an ugly woman 
I guess it's the comment that "You can see he is not TRYING to pass as a woman." -- No, I can't see that and don't have any contextual clues to suggest otherwise. He has a short haircut worn by some women, clean shaven, is in women's clothing and wearing make-up. I'll believe you when you say he's not trying to look like a woman but he still does look like he's trying to pass as a woman. I'm not sure what else he could do to look MORE like he's trying to pass as a woman except maybe waiting in line outside a women's restroom while holding a box of tampons or something.
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enough with the "you americans" schtick, i have known him since he was on "who's line is it anyway" way back when clive anderson ran it and it was funny.|
Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
Bah you Americans!
It's the British comedian Eddie Izzard. Very funny comedian thank you very much. |
so some of "we americans" know him quite well.as per the high number of "fanserivce" bits for females, not a disputed opinion, though considering the source material, cant exactly say it is untrue to it. heck, most of the steampunk outfit can be used to recreate the pic dave put up before of the "lady mechanica" comic, so its not as though it is significantly more revealing than most mainstream comics. and shall we get into anime and manga's outfits?
I wonder what it'd be like to undress a guy wearing a dress?
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Sweet crepes in sauce! This is one freakin' sweet coat! I would wear that one at least half of my characters!|
Originally Posted by Feycat
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Dammit! That man's sharp fashion sense broke my vow of silence for this thread! ARGH! CURSE YOU EDDIE IZZARD AND YOUR AMAZING FASHION SENSE!
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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Take a tunic, kilt, or toga and put it on a woman.|
Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight
Tunics, kilts, togas, etc, are not dresses.
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Oh, look, it's a dress/skirt.
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They look like them, which is all that matters for the game.
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Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight
Tunics, kilts, togas, etc, are not dresses.
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There are only 2 types of clothing choices for the lower body in like all of history - stuff with legs or stuff without legs
@Golden Girl
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Is that another way of saying fur or scale? |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
There are only 2 types of clothing choices for the lower body in like all of history - stuff with legs or stuff without legs
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There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
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Eh, a tunic *maybe* can pass as a dress. A kilt can pass as a skirt, but a toga? No.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Take a tunic, kilt, or toga and put it on a woman.
Oh, look, it's a dress/skirt. |
A toga is one piece of long cloth that you wrap around yourself. It's not even remotely dress-like.
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Technically speaking, if Neo went commando in that specific style of cassock, Reloaded would have had a completely different movie rating.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
It's called a cassock. It's a black version of the white one the Pope wears. Wearing a sash or cape with it is optionals. Wearing pants underneath it is optional. And he's not wearing a shirt underneath, the top of the cassock is the shirt.
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But it might have made the movie more enjoyable! |
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Technically speaking, if Neo went commando in that specific style of cassock, Reloaded would have had a completely different movie rating.
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And as Neo fan kicked the French Man's goons before the audience, flashing shapely legs and more, fanfirls everywhere said: "Whoa!"
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Originally Posted by Feycat
But it might have made the movie more enjoyable!
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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Given the COHF annoucement, and the possibility that they will now sell individual costume pieces, I wonder if it might be more economically viable now? Particularly if it leads to an increase in revenue from costume pieces and so, hopefully, more resources to produce more costume pieces.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
We've most certainly conveyed feedback received about equity in costume piece choices. What was communicated to me is that many of the pieces that are gender specific are usually done in that manner so as to allow for greater variety in character design options, in addition to accounting for production time, value and scope. (plainly said, more costume pieces mean more time in development which means less packs less frequently. Even if it's the same costume piece, it's and entirely "new" piece if we port it to different body types i.e.; male, female, huge). That being said, our character artists, such as Cheryl, are hearing requests for items such as more coat options for females and the like and will certainly take that into account with future new costume options.
We are committed to providing you all with a diverse range of costume design options, regardless of your body type or gender  . |
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If that's the case, that'd be grand, I got a female character that would fit battle hardened "tough guy" the cigar smoker thing perfectly.
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Originally Posted by LISAR
I hear cigars and cigarette holder's for women will be future costume options for the incarnate store.
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THIS...and yes there should be across the board costume pieces so that when we use the change gender option the opposite/huge gender pieces can simply be applied by the costume creator. As it stands, if I choose a gender, create a costume, and change gender, then the costume changes are gone (unless I change back to the original gender which defeats the purpose).
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Originally Posted by Exodus_V
I'm Old School...Frank-N-Furter demands it!
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Here is a lovely man in a dress. He is not gay, and he is not female.
Here he is again. You can see he is not TRYING to pass as a woman. He is not a drag queen. He is a man in a dress.
Here he is, not in a dress.
Dresses are just clothing. I'm a woman and I choose not to wear them. Eddie is a man and he chooses to wear them. He should have that right as much as I do. And he is far from alone, but any example busts an absolute - especially a totally bigoted one.
Also - you needn't be transgender to be a biological man wearing a dress. You needn't want to be a woman, or trying to pass as a woman. I went to school with an absolutely scrumptious young man who wore a black floor-length broomstick skirt to class every day. He was very straight, and did not want to be a woman. What he wanted was to wear a skirt.